WBW Podcast Episode 25: What Can the Antiwar Movement Do For Palestine and Gaza?

By Marc Eliot Stein, May 30, 2021

For antiwar activists all over the world, watching Israel and Palestine collapse into another brutal war in the past month felt like watching a car crash in slow motion. Every escalation was completely predictable: first, the protests against the unjust evictions from Sheikh Jarrar, then the Kristallnacht-style “Death to Arabs” hate rallies in the streets of Jerusalem – then the rockets and bombs and drones in Gaza, the murder by air attack of hundreds of innocent human beings, the numb, useless responses from leaders all over the world.

I asked Hammam Farah of Palestine House in Toronto and CODEPINK national co-director Ariel Gold to talk to me about Israel and Palestine on the 25th episode of the World BEYOND War podcast because I’m sure the global antiwar movement must step up to play a more prominent role in ending a 73-year-long horror show that many so-called experts believe can never be ended at all. But the antiwar movement has no room for despair and hopelessness, and accepting a future of permanent apartheid and endless violence is not an option. What can the antiwar movement do, when the leaders of the world and the “experts in the field” come up empty? That’s the question I asked my guests to consider in the latest podcast episode.

Hammam Farah
Ariel Gold

Hammam Farah is a psychoanalytic psychoanalyst and a board member of Palestine House in Toronto who was born in Gaza and still has family there. Ariel Gold is one of the most tireless and outspoken voices against Israeli apartheid in the global Jewish community. Both of them know more about the region than I do, and I was riveted by their thoughtful responses as we discussed the recent rise of the right-wing extremist Kahanist movement, the long history of Hamas, the changing perceptions of the Israel-Palestine conflict around the world, and the things we can do to try to help.

This is the 25th episode of the World BEYOND War podcast, and was a particularly difficult and emotional one for me, as I have always felt deeply affected by the continuing disaster of war between Israel and Palestine. Most of our podcast episodes include a few minutes of a song, but I could not add music to this one. What song can express the anguish of seeing the faces of dead children, killed in a pointless war with no end in sight? The world has no answers for the victims in Gaza. The antiwar movement must find the answers.

“Hamas is not something that grew out of Palestinian culture. The ongoing occupation by Israel,the blockade, the denial of refugee rights and the constant ongoing oppression and ethnic cleansing. The world failed to do anything about it … any violence from an oppressed people is a sign, a symptom of a problem.” – Hammam Farah

“Apartheid does such a disservice and causes a type of internal oppression to the Jewish people as well, and I would argue that is part of the cause of the Kahanist movement and the far-right movements – and of Israel becoming an ethno-national state that is religiously oppressive to Jews as well.” – Ariel Gold

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3 Responses

  1. Clearly, so much wrong has been done over 100 years that it is beyond adding up. Have we sufficient strength of mind to recognize there will not be justice, but one can nevertheless look to the future and feel we have the choice to make something good there? Why going on punishing? Why worry which of the sides we used to be on? Instead think forward to trust each other and above all be trustworthy. Then look what could be achieved! The most distinct positive outcome of WWII was the Marshall Plan. Why did Reagan and Thatcher not offer Gorbachov a Marshall plan when the Warsaw pact countries collapsed, not just more Nato? A spirit of generosity in good faith is what makes a bright future. That’s what we want, surely?

  2. “any violence from an oppressed people is a sign”

    – The exact same can be said of Jews, who are victims of thousands of years of genocidal oppression. If WBW doesn’t criticize Hamas violence, you’re a bunch of hypocrites.

    1. While people don’t live for thousands of years it only takes minutes to bother searching and discover that in fact WBW takes endless grief for criticizing organized violence by everyone including Palestinians. Because what we do is so unimaginably rare, we get to enjoy being falsely called hypocrites by supporters of BOTH sides of a great many conflicts.

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