Ibhalwe nguJames Wilt, Ubukhulu beCanada, Julayi 5, i-2022
World BEYOND War ingamandla abalulekile emzabalazweni wokulwa nempi womhlaba wonke, esiza ukuhlela imikhankaso emelene nezizinda zamasosha, ukuhweba ngezikhali, kanye nemibukiso yohwebo yama-impiriyali. Ubukhulu beCanada ukhulume noRachel Small, uMhleli waseCanada World BEYOND War, mayelana noxhaso olukhulayo lukahulumeni waseCanada lwezempi, izenzo eziqondile zakamuva ezibhekiswe kubakhiqizi bezikhali, ubudlelwano phakathi kwemizabalazo emelene nempi kanye nobulungiswa besimo sezulu, kanye nengqungquthela yomhlaba wonke ezayo ye-#NoWar2022.
Ubukhulu beCanada (CD): ICanada isanda kumemezela enye U-$5 billion ekusetshenzisweni kwezempi ukwenza i-NORAD ibe yesimanjemanje, ngaphezulu kwe izigidigidi ezabiwe kwisabelomali sakamuva kanye nezindiza zokulwa ezintsha nemikhumbi yempi. Ithini le nkcitho mayelana nesimo samanje saseCanada nezinto eziza kuqala emhlabeni futhi kungani kufanele ziphikiswe?
URaheli Encane (RS): Lesi simemezelo sakamuva mayelana nokusetshenziswa kwemali okwengeziwe kokwenza i-NORAD ibe yesimanje nje into eyodwa ngaphezulu kokukhuphuka okukhulu okuqhubekayo kwezindleko zezempi zaseCanada. Okuningi kwalokho kumakwe ngempela ezinyangeni ezimbalwa ezedlule. Kepha uma ubheka emuva kancane, njengoba ukusetshenziswa kwezempi yaseCanada kwe-2014 kukhuphuke ngamaphesenti angama-70. Ngonyaka odlule, isibonelo, iCanada yachitha izikhathi ezingu-15 kwezempi kunasemvelweni nasekushintsheni kwesimo sezulu, ukuze ibeke lokhu kuchitha kancane ngombono. UTrudeau angase akhulume kakhulu ngemizamo yakhe yokubhekana nokuguquguquka kwesimo sezulu kodwa uma ubheka ukuthi imali iya kuphi izinto ezibalulekile ezibalulekile ziyabonakala.
Yebo, uNgqongqoshe Wezokuvikela u-Anita Anand usanda kumemezela ukuthi ukusetshenziswa kwemali kuzokwenyuka ngamanye amaphesenti angama-70 kule minyaka emihlanu ezayo. Into eyodwa ethokozisayo ngale mali entsha ethenjisiwe ye-NORAD ukuthi abantu bazovikela lezi zinhlobo zokukhuphuka kwemali yezempi ngenkathi bekhuluma ngokuvikela "ukuzimela kweCanada" kanye "nokuba nenqubomgomo yethu yezangaphandle," futhi abaqapheli ukuthi i-NORAD empeleni iyinhlangano. mayelana nokuhlanganiswa okuphelele kwezempi yaseCanada, inqubomgomo yezangaphandle, kanye “nokuphepha” ne-United States.
Abaningi bethu abasemikhankasweni yokulwa nempi yaseCanada baye babandakanyeka eminyakeni embalwa edlule esikhathini eside umkhankaso we-cross-Canada ukumisa iCanada ekuthengeni izindiza zokulwa ezintsha ezingama-88. Lokho abantu abavame ukukusho ekuvikeleni lolo hlelo ukuthi "sidinga ukuzimela, sidinga ukuba nenqubomgomo ezimele yangaphandle evela e-United States." Lapho eqinisweni asikwazi ngisho nokundizisa lezi zindiza zamabhomu eziyinkimbinkimbi ngaphandle kokuthembela engqalasizinda yokuphatha impi yezempi efinyelela emkhathini lapho sizoncika ngokuphelele kwezempi yase-US ukuthi isebenze. ICanada empeleni yayizosebenza njengelinye iqembu noma amabili e-US Air Force. Lokhu kumayelana nokuhlangana okuphelele kwenqubomgomo yethu yezempi nezangaphandle ne-United States.
Okuthile okubalulekile ukukhuluma ngakho lapha futhi isithombe esibanzi salokho esimelene nakho, okuyimboni yezikhali enamandla kakhulu. Ngicabanga ukuthi abantu abaningi bangase bangaboni ukuthi iCanada isiba ngomunye wabathengisi bezikhali abahamba phambili emhlabeni. Ngakho-ke ngakolunye uhlangothi sitshala imali futhi sithenga izinhlelo zezikhali ezintsha ezibiza kakhulu, bese sikhiqiza futhi sithekelisa izigidigidi zezikhali. Singabakhiqizi abakhulu bezikhali futhi singabahlinzeki bezikhali besibili abakhulu esifundeni sonke saseMpumalanga Ephakathi.
Futhi lezi zinkampani zezikhali azigcini nje ngokuphendula inqubomgomo kahulumeni yangaphandle. Imvamisa kuba ngenye indlela: bayibumba ngenkuthalo. Amakhulu amaningi alabo ababambe iqhaza embonini yezikhali okwamanje abagila izimanga ngalezi zimemezelo ezintsha bahlale benxenxa ePhalamende Hill, hhayi nje ngezinkontileka ezintsha zamasosha kodwa ukuze balolonge ukuthi inqubomgomo yezangaphandle yaseCanada ibukeka kanjani, ukuze ilingane nale mishini ebiza kakhulu abayenzayo. 'uyadayisa.
Ngicabanga ukuthi kufanele futhi siqaphele ukuthi okuningi esikufundayo mayelana nalokhu kuthengwa okusha nezinhlelo, ingasaphathwa i-NATO ngokuvamile noma impi yase-Ukraine, yakhelwe umshini wobudlelwane bomphakathi waseCanada, okuyinto enkulu kunazo zonke. PR umshini ezweni. Banabasebenzi be-PR abaqashwe ngokugcwele abangaphezu kuka-600. Lesi yisikhathi asebesilindile, iminyaka, ukuthi baphushele abakufunayo. Futhi bafuna ukwanda ngokungenamkhawulo kwezindleko zempi. Akuyona imfihlo.
Badubula kanzima eCanada ukuthi bathenge lezi zindiza zempi ezintsha ezingama-88 okungezona izikhali zokuzivikela: ngokoqobo inhloso yabo okuwukuphela kwayo ukuwisa amabhomu. Bafuna ukuthenga imikhumbi yempi emisha kanye nama-drones eCanada ahlomile okokuqala ngqa. Futhi lapho bechitha lamakhulu ezigidigidi kulezi zikhali, lokho kuwukuzibophezela ukuzisebenzisa, akunjalo? Njengalapho sakha amapayipi: lokho kugxilisa ikusasa lokumbiwa kukaphethiloli kanye nenkinga yesimo sezulu. Lezi zinqumo ezenziwa yiCanada—njengokuthenga izindiza zempi ezintsha ezingu-88 ze-Lockheed Martin F-35—ziqinisa inqubomgomo yezangaphandle yaseCanada esekelwe ekuzibophezeleni ekulweni nezindiza zempi emashumini eminyaka ezayo. Simelene nokuningi lapha ekuphikisaneni nalokhu kuthenga.
CD: Ukuhlasela kweRussia e-Ukraine ngezindlela eziningi kuyisikhathi lapho eziningi zalezi zimboni nezintshisakalo bezilokhu zisilindile, njengenkulumo “yezokuphepha e-Arctic” esetshenziselwa ukuthethelela ukusetshenziswa kwemali okwengeziwe kwezempi. Izinto zishintshe kanjani kulokho futhi kwenzeka kanjani e-Ukraine kusetshenziswa yilezi zintshisekelo?
RS: Into yokuqala ongayisho yizingxabano emhlabeni wonke eziye zaba ngundabamlonyeni muva nje—futhi eziningi ezingazange—eziye zaletha usizi ezigidini zabantu ziye zaletha inzuzo enkulu kubakhiqizi bezikhali kulo nyaka. Sikhuluma ngabazuzi abakhulu bempi emhlabeni abenze izigidigidi ezephula irekhodi kulo nyaka. Laba baphathi nezinkampani yibona kuphela abantu “abawinayo” noma iyiphi yalezi zimpi.
Ngikhuluma ngempi yase-Ukraine, esivele yaphoqa ababaleki abangaphezu kwezigidi eziyisithupha ukuba babaleke amakhaya abo kulo nyaka, kodwa ngiphinde ngikhulume ngempi yaseYemen esiqhubeke iminyaka engaphezu kweyisikhombisa futhi yabulala abantu abangaphezu kuka-400,000. . Ngikhuluma ngokwenzeka ePalestine, lapho sekubulawe okungenani izingane eziyi-15 eWest Bank kusukela kuqale lo nyaka—futhi yizingane nje lezo. Kukhona ukungqubuzana okuningi esingahlali sizwa ngakho ezindabeni. Kodwa zonke zilethe umhlola nje kulezi zinkampani zezikhali.
Asikho ngempela isikhathi esinzima sokulwa nama impiriya kunalapho ohulumeni bethu, abaseNtshonalanga, beshaya izigubhu zempi. Kunzima kakhulu njengamanje ukuphonsela inselelo inkulumo-ze eyenza lezi zimpi zibe semthethweni: lo msindo wobuzwe nokushisekela izwe.
Ngicabanga ukuthi manje yilapho kubaluleke kakhulu ukuthi kwesokunxele senqabe ukucabanga ngombala omnyama nomhlophe, ukuze uvumelane nokulandisa okusitshela abezindaba ukuthi ukuphela kwezinketho. Sidinga ukugxeka udlame lwezempi olunyantisayo lwezwe laseRussia ngaphandle kokukhuthaza ukuthi i-NATO inyuke. Ukuphusha ukumiswa kokudubula esikhundleni sendawo okungeyona impukane. Kudingeka simelene nama-imperialist, siphikisane nempi, sisekele labo ababhekene nodlame lwempi ngaphandle kokuba nobuzwe, futhi ngaphandle kokuhlangana noma ukubeka izaba zama-fascists. Siyazi ukuthi “uhlangothi lwethu” alukwazi ukuvezwa ifulegi lombuso, lanoma yisiphi isimo, kodwa lusekelwe kuzwelonke, ubumbano lomhlaba wonke lwabantu abahlangene ukuze baphikisane nodlame. Cishe noma yini oyishoyo njengamanje ngaphandle kokuthi “yebo, asithumele izikhali eziningi ukuze abantu abaningi basebenzise izikhali eziningi” ikwenza ubizwe “ngopopayi kaPutin” nanoma yiziphi izinto ezimbi kakhulu kunalokho.
Kodwa ngibona abantu abaningi ngokwengeziwe bebona lokhu esitshelwa kona okuwukuphela kwezindlela zokunqanda udlame. Ngesonto eledlule, ingqungquthela enkulu ye-NATO ibanjelwe eMadrid futhi abantu bayiphikisa ngokumelana okumangalisayo phansi lapho. Futhi njengamanje abantu baphinde babhikishe i-NATO kulo lonke elaseCanada, befuna ukuthi impi iphele, futhi benqaba ukuhlanganisa ubumbano nabantu base-Ukraine ababhekene nokuhlasela okunonya kwaseRussia ngesidingo sokusebenzisa izigidigidi ezengeziwe ngezikhali zokuphehla umjaho wezikhali obizayo. Bangu imibhikisho emelene ne-NATO emadolobheni ayi-13 aseCanada nokubala kuleli sonto, engicabanga ukuthi kuyinto emangalisayo.
CD: Usanda kubamba iqhaza esenzweni esikhulu kakhulu nesinesibindi e-Canada's Global Defense & Security Trade Show (CANSEC) e-Ottawa. Saba khona kanjani leso senzo futhi kungani kwakubalulekile ukungenelela kulolu hlobo lokubukisa ngezikhali?
RS: Ekuqaleni kukaJuni, thina wabutha amakhulu amakhulu ukuvimba ukufinyelela ku-CANSEC—okuwumbukiso wezikhali omkhulukazi waseNyakatho Melika—ohlelwe eceleni kwamanye amaqembu amaningi namadlelandawonye endaweni yase-Ottawa nangale kwayo. Besihlela ngempela ubumbano nalabo ababulawayo, abasuswa ezindaweni zabo, futhi abalinyazwa izikhali ezazithengiswa futhi zidayiswa e-CANSEC. Njengoba ngishilo ngaphambili, besiphikisana nabazuzi bempi abakhulu kakhulu emhlabeni: abantu ababuthene e-CANSEC ngabantu abenze ingcebo ngezimpi nezingxabano emhlabeni jikelele lapho kusetshenziswa khona lezi zikhali, futhi banegazi lalokho. abaningi ezandleni zabo.
Senze ngempela ukuthi kube nzima ukuthi noma ngubani angene ngaphandle kokubhekana ngqo nodlame nokuchitheka kwegazi abangagcini nje ngokuba nesandla kukho kodwa abazuza ngakho. Sikwazile ukuminyanisa isiminyaminya esingena emhlanganweni futhi sadala ukubambezeleka okukhulu ukuze umcimbi uqale nokuthi u-Anand anikeze ikheli lakhe lokuvula. Kwakuyihora lesi-7 ekuseni, kude kakhulu nenkaba yedolobha, emvuleni eyayisina, ngosuku olwandulela ukhetho lwase-Ontario futhi namanje amakhulu abantu abonisa ukuzomelana ngempela nabanye babantu abanamandla nabacebe kakhulu emhlabeni.
CD: Kube khona ukusabela kwamaphoyisa okunolaka ngempela esenzweni se-CANSEC. Buyini ubudlelwano phakathi kwamaphoyisa nodlame lwamasosha? Kungani kudinga ukubhekana nobabili?
RS: Bekucaca bha ukuthi amaphoyisa akhona abevikela ababona sengathi yisikhala sabo nobhululu bawo. Ikakhulukazi umbukiso wezikhali zamasosha kodwa amaphoyisa nawo angamakhasimende amakhulu e-CANSEC futhi athenga izinto eziningi ezithengiswayo nezithengiswayo lapho. Ngakho ngezindlela eziningi kwakuyisikhala sabo ngempela.
Ezingeni elibanzi, ngingasho ukuthi izikhungo zamaphoyisa nezempi zihlala zixhumene ngokujulile. Indlela yokuqala futhi eyinhloko yempi yaseCanada ikoloni. Lapho ngokomlando kuba nzima ukuthi izwe laseCanada liphishekele ukubusa kwamakoloni ngezindlela zezempi, leyo mpi iye yaqhubeka cishe ngendlela ephumelelayo ngodlame lwamaphoyisa. Akukho ngisho nokuhlukana okucacile eCanada phakathi kwamaphoyisa namasosha ngokwezobunhloli, ukugadwa, nokuthi yiziphi izinto ezisetshenziswayo. Lezi zikhungo zombuso ezinodlame zihlala zisebenzisana eduze.
Ngicabanga ukuthi singabheka khona manje ikakhulukazi izindlela labo abama ezimeni zesimo sezulu kulo lonke elaseCanada, ikakhulukazi aboMdabu, abahlale behlaselwa futhi bagadiwe hhayi ngamaphoyisa kuphela kodwa ngamasosha aseCanada. Ngicabanga ukuthi akukaze kucace ngendlela amaphoyisa ahlasela ngayo emadolobheni ezweni lonke enza udlame olubi, ikakhulukazi olubhekiswe emiphakathini ecwasa ngokwebala. Kubalulekile ukuqaphela ukuthi amaningi alawa maphoyisa athola ngokoqobo izikhali zempi ezinikelwe ebuthweni. Lapho kunganikelwanga khona, bathenga izinto zezempi, bathola futhi baqeqeshelwe impi, bafunda amaqhinga ezempi. Amaphoyisa aseCanada avame ukuya phesheya emisebenzini yezempi njengengxenye yokuhwebelana kwezempi noma ezinye izinhlelo. Ingasaphathwa eyokuthi i-RCMP yasungulwa ngasekupheleni kwawo-1800 njengombutho wamaphoyisa ezempi, futhi isiko layo lezempi lilokhu liyingxenye eyinhloko yalo. Emhlabeni jikelele sisebenza emikhankasweni embalwa njengamanje ukuze susa amaphoyisa.
World BEYOND War ngokwayo iphrojekthi yokuqeda. Ngakho-ke sizibona siyinhlangano yezelamani kwezinye izinhlangano zokuqeda nya, njengezinyathelo zokuqeda amaphoyisa namajele. Ngicabanga ukuthi yonke le nhlangano imayelana nokwakha ikusasa ngempela ngale kodlame lombuso kanye namandla ombuso aphoqelelayo. Impi ayiveli esifisweni somuntu sokubulalana sodwa: iwukusungulwa komphakathi okugqugquzelwa ohulumeni nezikhungo ngoba zizuza kuyo ngokuqondile. Sikholelwa ukuthi njengezinye izinto ezisunguliwe emphakathini ezakhelwe ukusiza amaqembu athile abantu, njengobugqila, zingakwazi futhi zizoqedwa. Ngicabanga ukuthi kufanele sakhe umfelandawonye oqinile oqhubekayo nezinye izinhlangano zokuqeda nya.
CD: World Beyond War kanye namanye amaqembu afana neLabour Against the Arms Trade enze izenzo eziqondile ezinesibindi ngempela. Ngiyacabanga futhi Isenzo sasePalestine e-UK, esanda kuzuza enye iwini enkulu ngokuvalwa kwabo kwesibili unomphela kwesiza se-Elbit ngesenzo esiqondile esisimeme esimangalisayo. Yiziphi izifundo esingazithola kulezi zinhlobo zemizamo yamazwe ngamazwe?
RS: Impela, kuyakhuthaza kakhulu ukubona ukuthi benzani abantu be-Shut Elbit Down. Kumnandi. Sicabanga ukuthi iphuzu elibalulekile ngempela lokugxila kokunyakaza kwethu kanye nokuhlela ukulwa nempi eCanada kudinga ukubheka okwenzekayo lapha okusekela udlame esilubona phansi, ngezinye izikhathi ngakolunye uhlangothi lomhlaba. Imvamisa, sibheka labo abalinyazwa phambili ezimpini futhi ukuxhumana kufihliwe phakathi kokuthi lolo dlame luqala kaningi ngokwanele emadolobheni ethu, emadolobheni ethu, ezikhaleni zethu lapha.
Ngakho-ke besisebenza nabalingani ukuze sigxile ngempela kulokho okungaqondisa isenzo futhi phansi ukuhlela ngokumelene nomshini wempi lapha kubukeka kanjani? Uma ukubhekisisa, uyaqaphela ukuthi, ngokwesibonelo, izigidigidi zamaRandi kuma-LAV—empeleni amathangi amancane—adayiselwa iSaudi Arabia, izikhali eziqhubeka nempi eYemen, zenziwa eLondon, e-Ontario, ngithuthwa ecaleni lami cishe eduze kwendlu yami emgwaqeni omkhulu eToronto. Uma uqala ukubona ngokucacile izindlela imiphakathi yethu, abasebenzi, abasebenzi abahileleke ngokuqondile kulokhu kuhweba ngezikhali ubona namathuba amangalisayo okumelana.
Isibonelo, sihlangene nabantu ngqo block amaloli futhi olayini besitimela ukuthumela ama-LAV endleleni eya eSaudi Arabia. Sipende Amathrekhi e-LAV tank ezakhiweni lapho amaLungu ePhalamende agunyaze lokhu kuthenga asebenza khona. Nomaphi lapho singakwazi khona, sivimba ngokuqondile ukuhamba kwalezi zikhali ngokubambisana nabantu abaphansi e-Yemen esisebenza nabo, kodwa futhi senze lobu budlelwano obungabonakali bubonakale.
Ezinyangeni ezimbalwa ezedlule, sawisa isibhengezo esingamamitha angu-40 esivela esakhiweni samahhovisi sika-Chrystia Freeland esasithi “igazi ezandleni zakho” ukuze sigqamise ukuthi lezi zinqumo zezombusazwe ezihlanjululwe eziphuma kulezi zingqungquthela zabezindaba ezinhle zihumushelani ngempela phansi. Bekuyingxenye ye-#CanadaStopArmingSaudi edidiyelwe usuku lokusebenza okuphawula iminyaka eyisikhombisa yempi e-Yemen eyabona izenzo ezimangalisayo ezweni lonke, eziningi ezenziwa nemiphakathi yasendaweni yase-Yemeni. Ngenhlanhla, inhlangano emelene nempi inezibonelo eziningi zeminyaka yabantu abenza isenzo esimangalisayo-ezikhungweni zezikhali zenuzi, kubakhiqizi bezikhali, phambili ezingxabanweni ezinodlame-ukuze babeke imizimba yabo ngqo emgqeni. Kuningi okumele sikudwebe. Kufanele futhi ngisho ukuthi ngemva kwazo zonke lezi zenzo eziqondile kuwumsebenzi ongathandeki kakhulu wabantu abenza ucwaningo, bechitha amahora amaningi phambi kwama-spreadsheet futhi behlanganisa imininingwane ye-inthanethi ukuze bathole ulwazi oluzosivumela ukuba sibe phambi kwalawo maloli anamathangi.
CD: Ngabe impi ihlobana kanjani nenkinga yesimo sezulu. Kungani izishoshovu zobulungiswa besimo sezulu kufanele zimelane nempi kanye ne-imperialism?
RS: Njengamanje, kuwo wonke umnyakazo eCanada, kunokuqwashisa okwandayo mayelana nokunye kwalokhu kuxhumana phakathi kokunyakaza kobulungiswa besimo sezulu kanye nokunyakaza okulwa nempi okujabulisa ngempela.
Okokuqala, kufanele sithi nje amasosha aseCanada angamane akhipha amagesi abamba ukushisa. Iwumthombo omkhulu kunayo yonke yazo zonke izikhithi zikahulumeni futhi ikhululiwe kuzo zonke izinhloso zokunciphisa igesi ebamba ukushisa eCanada. Ngakho-ke i-Trudeau izokwenza noma yiziphi izimemezelo mayelana nezinhloso zokukhishwa kwekhabhoni nokuthi sisendleleni yokuhlangabezana nazo futhi ayibandakanyi umthumeli omkhulu kahulumeni wobumbano.
Ngaphandle kwalokho, uma ubheka ujule, kukhona ukukhishwa okulimazayo kwezinto zemishini yempi. Yonke into esetshenziswa phansi endaweni ye-warzone yaqala, ngokwesibonelo, emayini yesici somhlaba esiyivelakancane noma imayini ye-uranium. Kukhona udoti wasezimayini onobuthi okhiqizwa kulezo zindawo, kanye nokucekelwa phansi okubi kwezinhlelo zemvelo okubangelwa imizamo yempi ngokwayo. Ezingeni eliyisisekelo, amasosha acekela phansi imvelo ngendlela emangalisayo.
Kodwa futhi, sesibonile ukuthi amasosha aseCanada asetshenziswa kanjani ukuhlasela labo abathatha uhlangothi oluphambili lwesimo sezulu ngaphakathi kweTurtle Island kodwa nasemhlabeni wonke. Ezimweni eziningi, impi yaseCanada emhlabeni jikelele ayibukeki njengamasosha aseCanada phansi kodwa ibukeka njengezikhali, uxhaso lwezimali, ukusekelwa kwezikhulu kwezempi ekuvikeleni amaphrojekthi wokumba izinsiza zaseCanada. E-Latin America, kuphawuleka kakhulu izindlela impi yaseCanada eqoqwa ngayo ukuze "ivikele" izimayini zaseCanada futhi kwezinye izimo imise izindawo ezigcwele impi zamazwe ukuvikela lezo zimayini. Yilokho futhi okubukeka kwezempi yaseCanada.
Ukuze ukunyakaza kwesimo sezulu kuphumelele, sidinga ukwedlula ukukhuluma nje ngokukhishwa kwezempi kodwa futhi nezindlela amasosha aseCanada asetshenziswa ngazo ukucindezela abantu abaphikisayo, ukuvikela imboni kaphethiloli ngazo zonke izindleko, nezindlela iCanada etshala ngayo ekulweni impi. imingcele yawo. Umbiko wakamuva ovela ku-Transnational Institute uthole ukuthi iCanada isebenzisa isilinganiso samaRandi ayizigidi eziyizinkulungwane ezingu-1.9 ngonyaka ekulweni nemingcele yayo kuyilapho inikela ngemali engaphansi kwezigidi ezingu-150 zamaRandi ngonyaka ekuxhaseni ngemali isimo sezulu ukuze kuncishiswe imithelela yokuguquguquka kwesimo sezulu okubangela ukufuduka okuphoqelelwe ekuqaleni. indawo.
Kuyacaca ukuthi yikuphi ukubeka phambili kombuso mayelana nemingcele yezempi ukuze kugcinwe abokufika ngaphandle kokubhekana nenkinga ephoqa abantu ukuthi babaleke emakhaya abo kwasekuqaleni. Konke lokhu, kunjalo, ngenkathi izikhali ziwela imingcele ngokukhululeka kodwa abantu abakwazi.
CD: Ingqungquthela yomhlaba wonke ye-No War iyeza. Kungani kwenzeka le ngqungquthela futhi, ngokuhlobene, kungani kubalulekile ukuthi sithathe indlela yomhlaba wonke mayelana nezinkinga zethu?
RS: Ngijabule kakhulu ngale ngqungquthela: #NoWar2022. Indikimba yalo nyaka ithi ukumelana nokuvuselelwa. Eqinisweni, kwabonakala sengathi yisikhathi lapho kwakudingeka singagcini nje ngokuncika ethembeni njengombono ongacacile kodwa ngendlela uMariame Kaba akhuluma ngayo ngakho “ngethemba njengokusebenza kanzima, ithemba njengesiyalo.” Ngakho-ke asigxili ekugxileni nje ekutheni ukumelana nomshini wezempi wezimboni kanye nezimboni kubukeka kanjani kodwa nokuthi siwakha kanjani umhlaba esiwudingayo futhi sibona ukuhleleka okumangalisayo okwenzeka nxazonke zethu osekuvele kwenza lokho.
Isibonelo, sibambisene nabantu baseSinjajevina e-Montenegro abanalo mzabalazo omangalisayo wokuzabalaza. vimba indawo entsha yokuqeqeshwa kwezempi ye-NATO. Sicubungula kokubili ukuthi umisa futhi uvale kanjani izisekelo zamasosha kodwa futhi abantu emhlabeni jikelele baguqule kanjani lezo zindawo ukuze bazisebenzisele izindlela zokuthula, izindlela ezizimele, zokubuyiselwa komhlaba woMdabu. Sibheka ukuthi nobabili niwasusa kanjani amaphoyisa futhi nisebenzisa ezinye izindlela ezigxile emphakathini zokuvikela umphakathi wenu. Sizozwa ngezibonelo ezivela emiphakathini yase-Zapatista, isibonelo, ekhiphe umsebenzi wamaphoyisa wombuso iminyaka eminingi. Nobabili nikuphonsela inselelo kanjani ukuchema nenkulumo-ze evamile kwabezindaba kodwa niphinde nidale izikhungo ezintsha? I-Folks evela ku-The Breach izokwethula lokho njengohlelo olusha lwezindaba olujabulisayo oluqale phakathi nonyaka odlule.
Ngicabanga ukuthi kuzojabulisa ngempela ngaleyo ndlela, ukuzwa ngempela kubantu abakha ezinye izindlela esingancika kuzo futhi sikhule. Sashintshela, njengabanye abantu abaningi, engqungqutheleni eku-inthanethi eminyakeni embalwa edlule ekuqaleni kwalolu bhubhane. Kwasicasula kakhulu ukwenza lokho ngoba ukuhlanganisa abantu, bakwazi ukwenza izenzo eziqondile ndawonye, bekuyingxenye esemqoka yendlela esasihlela ngayo esikhathini esidlule. Kodwa njengamanye amaqembu amaningi, sashaywa umoya ukuthi abantu bajoyine bukhoma ku-inthanethi bevela emazweni angaphezu kwama-30 ahlukene emhlabeni jikelele. Ngakho kwaba ngempela ukuhlangana kobumbano lwamazwe ngamazwe.
Uma sikhuluma ngokuphikisana nalezi zikhungo ezinamandla ngendlela emangalisayo, inkimbinkimbi yezimboni zamasosha, bayahlangana futhi bahlanganise abantu babo nezinsizakusebenza ezivela emhlabeni wonke ukuze benze amasu okuthi bayikhulisa kanjani inzuzo ka-Lockheed Martin, ukuthi bathumela kanjani izikhali zabo yonke indawo, futhi. kuzwakala kunamandla kakhulu njengenhlangano emelene nempi ukuze sikwazi ukuhlangana ngezindlela zethu. Iseshini yokuvula ingqungquthela yalo nyaka ihlanganisa omunye wamalungu ebhodi ofona evela e-Kiev e-Ukraine. Ngonyaka odlule, abantu bakhuluma bevela e-Sanaa e-Yemen futhi sasizwa amabhomu ewela eduze kwabo, okuyinto esabekayo kodwa futhi enamandla ngempela ukuhlangana ngale ndlela futhi banqamule ezinye zezindaba ze-bullshit futhi bezwe ngokuqondile komunye nomunye.
CD: Noma yimiphi imicabango yokugcina?
RS: Kunengcaphuno kaGeorge Monbiot ebengicabanga kakhulu ngayo muva nje mayelana nendlela esiphikisa ngayo abezindaba futhi singacabangi okunye okuphusile esikutshelwe kwabezindaba mayelana nendlela esizivikela ngayo. Yena ubhale muva nje: “Uma kwenzeka kwaba khona isikhathi sokuhlola kabusha izinsongo zangempela zokuvikeleka kwethu futhi sizihlukanise nezinjongo zokuzizuzisa zemboni yezikhali, yiso leso.” Ngicabanga ukuthi lokho kuyiqiniso.
Le ngxoxo ihlelelwe ukucaciseleka nobude.
UJames Wilt uyintatheli ezimele futhi umfundi oneziqu ozinze eWinnipeg. Ungumbhali we Ingabe i-Android iyaphupha ngezimoto zikagesi? I-Public Transit Enkathini ye-Google, Uber, ne-Elon Musk (Between the Lines Books) kanye nokuzayo Ukuphuza I-Revolution (Izincwadi Eziphindaphindayo). Ungamlandela ku-Twitter @james_m_wilt.
