NguMarc Eliot Stein, ngoNovemba 30, 2022
Okwesiqephu esisha se World BEYOND War podcast, ngikhulume noJohn Reuwer, osesithombeni ngenhla ehlezi enkabeni ngaphansi kwesithombe sikaGandhi eKyiv, e-Ukraine nesishoshovu sokuthula sendawo kanye nelungu lebhodi le-WBW u-Yurii Sheliazhenko, ngohambo lwakhe lwakamuva oluya eCentral Europe lapho ahlangane khona nababaleki futhi wazama ukuhlela bengahlomile. ukumelana nempi elokhu iqhubeka kusukela ngoFebhuwari walo nyaka.
UJohn wayengudokotela wezimo eziphuthumayo owake waba nokuhlangenwe nakho okuphumelelayo kokuhlela ukumelana nobudlova ezindaweni ezingqubuzanayo muva nje ngo-2019, lapho esebenza naye. I-Peaceforce ye-Nonviolent eSouth Sudan. Waqala ukufika eRomania ukuze asebenze ne PATRIR inhlangano kanye nabakhi bokuthula abanolwazi njenga UKai Brand-Jacobsen kodwa wamangala ukuthola inkolelo eyayisakazekile yokuthi impi eyengeziwe nezikhali ezengeziwe zingavikela abantu base-Ukraniya ekuhlaselweni kwamaRussia. Sikhulume sajula phakathi nale nhlolokhono ye-podcast ngesimo sababaleki base-Ukranian emazweni angomakhelwane: imindeni yase-Ukranian enamalungelo amaningi ingase ihlaliswe ngokunethezeka ezindlini ezinobungane, kodwa ababaleki bemibala abaphathwa ngendlela efanayo, futhi izinkinga ekugcineni zivela kuzo zonke izimo zababaleki.
UJohn wathola ithemba elingcono kakhulu lokumelana nezakhamuzi ezingahlomile ezilwa nempi enhlanganweni engezona ezombangazwe ukuze gwema ukuncibilika kwezikhali zenuzi okuyinhlekelele esikhungweni sikagesi saseZaporizhzhya, futhi inxusa amavolontiya ukuthi ajoyine le nhlangano. Sikhuluma ngokungagwegwesi phakathi nale nhlolokhono ye-podcast mayelana nobunzima bokuhlela okungenabudlova ngaphakathi kwe-cauldron eqhubekayo yempi esebenzayo. Siphinde sikhulume ngomkhuba wase-Europe obheke ekubuyiseleni impi, kanye nangomehluko uJohn awubona ne-East Africa lapho izinto ezesabekayo zesikhathi eside zempi engapheli zibonakala kakhulu. Nazi izingcaphuno ezibalulekile ezivela kuJohn:
"Imisebenzi yokwakha ukuthula manje ibonakala iyindaba yokuthi ungagcina kanjani umphakathi wase-Ukranian ohlukumezekile uhlangene ngaphakathi kuwo futhi kuvinjwe izingxabano emphakathini wase-Ukranian. Kwakungekho ukukhuluma okuningi ngendlela yokubhekana nokuhlukumezeka konke, impi yezinhlangothi zombili, noma yokuqeda impi.”
"Sigxila kakhulu ekutheni bangobani abantu ababi futhi asenele ekutheni inkinga ikuphi ... imbangela enkulu yale mpi ukuthi yilapho imali ikhona."
"Umehluko omkhulu phakathi kwe-US kanye ne-Ukraine ne-South Sudan, eSouth Sudan, wonke umuntu wayebhekane nobunzima bempi. Cishe awukwazanga ukuhlangana nomuntu waseSudan waseNingizimu owayengakwazi ukukubonisa inxeba lakhe lenhlamvu, uphawu locelemba, noma ukukuxoxela indaba yomakhelwane babo ababegijima bethukile njengoba idolobhana labo lalihlaselwa futhi lishiswa, noma liboshwe noma lilinyazwa yimpi. … abayikhonzi impi njengento enhle eSouth Sudan. Izicukuthwane ziyayenza, kodwa akekho owayethanda impi ... imvamisa abantu abahlushwa impi bakhathazeka kakhulu ukuyinqoba kunabantu abayidumisa bekude.”
