I-TV yezindaba yenzekile ingxoxo noLeah Bolger, Veterans for Peace, Oregon mayelana nokukhathazeka kwezempi yase-US ngempilo yengqondo yamasosha abuyile empini; kanye nokuntuleka kokusekelwa kwesikhungo.
Okulandelayo ukuloba cishe kwenhlolokhono.
Cindezela i-TV: Ukuphawula okwenziwe ngu-Admiral Mike Mullen, ingabe kuwubufakazi beqiniso lokuthi i-US ayihlinzeki ngosizo lwezempilo olwanele kanye nezindawo zesikhashana kumakadebona abuya ekuthunyelweni e-Iraq noma e-Afghanistan?
I-Bolger: Hhayi-ke, ngicabanga ukuthi lokho kuyiqiniso ngicabanga ukuthi lokho kube yinkinga isikhathi eside ukuthi isevisi yamadoda nabesifazane futhi ingakutholi ukunakekelwa okwanele abakudingayo. Ngakho-ke, u-Admiral Mullen ucela, ngendlela evamile, ethi sidinga ukusekela abesilisa nabesifazane bethu abangena empini futhi sibasize ngezinkinga zabo zempilo yengqondo.
Cindezela i-TV: Ucabanga ukuthi kungani lolu sizo alunikezwa uhulumeni, osekwenze laba bantu bayolwa izimpi phesheya?
Bolger: Ngicabanga ukuthi impilo yengqondo inesikhathi eside icwaswa. Amasosha abuya eMpini Yezwe I, iMpi Yezwe II ayenezinhlobo zezimpawu ezifanayo namasosha abhekana nazo manje, kodwa asizange sikubize ngokuphazamiseka kwengcindezi yangemva kokuhlukumezeka, kwakubizwa ngokuthi ukukhathala noma ukushaqeka kwegobolondo - kwakunamagama ahlukene. .
Akuyona into entsha ukuthi amasosha angena ezindaweni zempi abuya nabantu abahlukene futhi banezinkinga zempilo yengqondo ngenxa yokuhlanganyela kwabo empini. Kodwa manje siyaqala ukukwamukela njengento evamile. Ngicabanga ngalokhu - futhi lokhu akuyona into eyihlazo, kodwa into eqondakala ngempela uma othile entweni ehlukumeza njengokulwa.
Okungicasulayo futhi okungikhathazayo njengomuntu futhi njengomuntu waseMelika futhi njengomuntu womhlaba ukuthi uma ukulwa kuthinta amasosha ngale ndlela aze acindezeleke kakhulu noma abulala noma azibulale, kufanele kanjani ithinta izisulu zempi zangempela - abantu abangenacala e-Afghanistan nase-Iraq nasePakistan kanye nawo wonke amanye amazwe amasosha aseMelika ahlasele?
Laba bayizisulu zempi ngempela eziphila ngokuhlukumezeka okuqhubekayo kodwa nokho umphakathi waseMelika ubonakala ungenandaba nokuhlukumezeka kwabo noma izinkinga zempilo yengqondo nhlobo.
Cindezela i-TV: Ngempela lowo ngumbuzo onzima kakhulu owubuzayo lapho.
Uma sibuyela odabeni lwamangqalabutho futhi sibheka isithombe esikhulu futhi, akuzona nje izinkinga zempilo yengqondo manje, futhi iqiniso lokuthi bakuthola kunzima ukuthola ukunakekelwa kwezempilo okwanele; bakuthola kuya ngokuya kuba nzima ukuthola imisebenzi uma sebebuyile.
Ngakho-ke, iphutha lesistimu yonke, ubungeke uvume?
I-Bolger: Nakanjani. Nakulokhu futhi, uma abantu beyobhekana nokulwa basuke bengabantu abashintshile. Ngakho-ke bayabuya futhi abantu abaningi, abaningi ababuya empini baba nobunzima bokubuyela ekuphileni okungavamile.
Bathola ukuthi ubuhlobo babo nomkhaya wabo abusaqinile; kunezehlakalo eziphezulu kakhulu zokusebenzisa kabi utshwala nezidakamizwa; ukungabi namakhaya; ukuntuleka kwemisebenzi - Lezi zinhlobo zezinkinga zikhula kakhulu ngemva kokuba abantu bebambene phezulu.
Ngakho-ke lokhu okushiwo kimina ukuthi ukulwa akuyona into engokwemvelo, akuzifikeli ngokwemvelo kubantu ngakho-ke uma lokho kwenzeka baguqulwa ngendlela engalungile futhi bakuthola kunzima kakhulu ukuphinda bajwayele.
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