Ummeli uBarbara Lee, Ovote Kakhulu Emva Kuka-9/11 Ngokumelene "Nezimpi Ezingunaphakade," Ngesidingo Sophenyo Lwempi yase-Afghanistan

AMY U-GOODMAN: NgoMgqibelo kugujwa iminyaka engu-20 kuhlaselwa ngoSepthemba 11. Ezinsukwini ezalandela, isizwe saxebuka ekufeni kwabantu abangaphezu kuka-3,000 14, ngenkathi uMongameli George W. Bush eshaya izigubhu zempi. NgoSepthemba 2001, 9, ngemuva kwezinsuku ezintathu kuhlaselwe kabi ngo-11/98, amalungu eCongress abamba impikiswano yamahora amahlanu mayelana nokuthi angamnika yini amandla umongameli amandla okusebenzisa amasosha ukuziphindiselela kulokhu kuhlasela, iSenate eyayivele idlulile ivoti lika-0 laya ku-XNUMX.

ICalifornia Democratic Congressmember uBarbara Lee, izwi lakhe eliqhaqhazelayo ngemizwa njengoba ekhuluma esephansi kweNdlu, uzoba ukuphela kwelungu leCongress lokuvota ngokumelene nempi ngemuva kwango-9/11. Ivoti lokugcina kwaba ngu-420 kuya ku-1.

Rep. Barbara I-LEE: Mnu. Somlomo, malungu, ngivuka namhlanje ngenhliziyo ebuhlungu kakhulu, egcwele usizi emindenini nakwabathandekayo ababulewe balinyazwa kuleli sonto. Yiziphukuphuku kuphela nabangenangqondo kakhulu abangaqonda usizi oluye lwabamba abantu bethu nezigidi emhlabeni jikelele.

Lesi senzo esingachazeki e-United States singiphoqelele ngempela, nokho, ukuthi ngithembele kwikhampasi yami yokuziphatha, unembeza wami nonkulunkulu wami ukuze ngithole ukuqondiswa. Septhemba 11 washintsha umhlaba. Ukwesaba kwethu okujulile manje kuyasikhathaza. Kodwa-ke ngiyaqiniseka ukuthi isenzo samasosha ngeke sivimbele ezinye izenzo zobuphekula zamazwe omhlaba ezibhekiswe e-United States. Lolu daba luyinkimbinkimbi kakhulu futhi luyinkimbinkimbi.

Manje, lesi sinqumo sizodlula, yize sonke sazi ukuthi umongameli angalwa impi noma ingekho. Noma kunzima kangakanani lokhu kuvota, abanye bethu kumele bakhuthaze ukusetshenziswa kokuzibamba. Izwe lethu lisesimweni sokulila. Abanye bethu kumele bathi, “Ake sibuyele emuva umzuzwana. Ake sithi ukuhlaba ikhefu, umzuzwana nje, bese sicabanga ngemiphumela yezenzo zethu namhlanje ukuze lokhu kungalawuleki. ”

Manje, sengikhathazekile ngaleli voti, kodwa ngifinyelele kulo namuhla, futhi ngafinyelela ekuphikisweni kwalesi sinqumo phakathi nenkonzo yesikhumbuzo ebuhlungu kodwa enhle kakhulu. Njengoba ilungu labefundisi lisho kahle, Ngiyabonga, futhi ngiyanikela ngesikhathi sami.

AMY U-GOODMAN: "Masingabi ngobubi esibusolayo." Ngalawo mazwi, u-Oakland Congressmember uBarbara Lee wanyakazisa iNdlu, iCapitol, leli zwe, umhlaba, izwi elilodwa lamalungu e-congressm angaphezu kwama-400.

Ngaleso sikhathi, uBarbara Lee wayengomunye wamalungu amasha eCongress futhi wayengomunye wabesifazane abambalwa base-Afrika baseMelika ababambe isikhundla eNdlu noma eSenate. Manje esikhathini sakhe se-12, ungowesifazane ophakeme kakhulu wase-Afrika waseMelika eCongress.

Yebo, sekuyiminyaka engama-20 kamuva. Futhi ngoLwesithathu kuleli sonto, ngixoxisane neCongressmember Lee emcimbini obubanjwe yi-Institute for Policy Studies, osungulwe nguMarcus Raskin, owayengumsizi ekuphathweni kukaKennedy owaba yisishoshovu nombhali oqhubekayo. Ngabuza iCongressmember Lee ukuthi uthathe kanjani isinqumo sokuma yedwa, ukuthi yini eya kulesi sinqumo, ukuthi wayekuphi ngenkathi ethatha isinqumo sokuthi uzokwethula inkulumo yakhe, nokuthi abantu basabela kanjani kuso.

Rep. Barbara I-LEE: Ngiyabonga kakhulu, u-Amy. Futhi empeleni, sibonga wonke umuntu, ikakhulukazi I-IPS ngokubamba lesi sithangami esibaluleke kakhulu namuhla. Futhi mangisho nje kulabo abavela I-IPS, ngomongo womlando futhi ngokuhlonipha nje uMarcus Raskin, uMarcus waba umuntu wokugcina engakhuluma naye ngaphambi kokuba nginikeze leyo nkulumo - umuntu wokugcina.

Ngangiye esikhumbuzweni futhi ngabuya. Futhi ngangisekomidini leziphathimandla, elaliyiKomidi Lezangaphandle linalokhu, lapho ukugunyazwa kwakuqhamuka khona. Futhi-ke, akuhambanga ngekomidi. Kwakufanele ize ngoMgqibelo. Ngabuyela ehhovisi, futhi abasebenzi bami bathi, “Kufanele ungene phansi. Ukugunyazwa kuyeza. Ivoti lizoqhamuka kungakapheli elinye ihora noma amabili. ”

Ngakho-ke kwadingeka ngigijime ngiye phansi. Futhi bengizama ukuhlanganisa imicabango yami. Njengoba ukwazi ukubona, bengingenalo uhlobo - ngeke ngithi “angikakulungeli,” kepha bengingenakho ebengikufuna ngohlobo lwami lohlaka namaphuzu okukhuluma. Bekumele ngivele ngibhale okuthile ephepheni. Futhi ngashayela uMarcus ucingo. Ngase ngithi, "Kulungile." Ngathi - futhi ngangikhulume naye ezinsukwini ezintathu ezedlule. Futhi ngikhulume nomphathi wami wangaphambili, uRon Dellums, owayenguye, kulabo abangazi, iqhawe elikhulu lokuthula nobulungiswa esifundeni sami. Ngimsebenzele iminyaka engu-11, engimandulele. Ngakho-ke ngakhuluma noRon, futhi ungusonhlalonhle wezifo zengqondo ngokomsebenzi. Futhi ngikhulume nabameli abaningana bomthethosisekelo. Ngikhulumile nomfundisi wami, kunjalo, umama nomndeni wami.

Futhi bekuyisikhathi esinzima kakhulu, kepha akekho umuntu ebengikhuluma naye, u-Amy, ophakamise ukuthi kufanele ngivote kanjani. Futhi kwakuthakazelisa kakhulu. Ngisho noMarcus akazange. Sikhulume ngobuhle nobubi, okudingwa nguMthethosisekelo, ukuthi lokhu kumayelana nani, konke ukucatshangelwa. Futhi bekungisiza kakhulu ukuthi ngikwazi ukukhuluma nalaba bantu, ngoba kubonakala sengathi bebengafuni ukungitshela ukuthi ngivote cha, ngoba bebazi ukuthi sonke isihogo sizokwehla. Kepha banginike uhlobo oluthile, uyazi, ubuhle nobubi balo.

URon, ngokwesibonelo, sasihamba ngesizinda sethu ku-psychology kanye nomsebenzi wezenhlalo wezifo zengqondo. Futhi sathi, uyazi, into yokuqala oyifunda ku-Psychology 101 ukuthi awuthathi izinqumo ezibucayi, ezibucayi lapho usosizini nalapho ulila nalapho ukhathazekile nalapho uthukuthele. Lezo yizikhathi lapho kufanele uphile khona - uyazi, kufanele ukudlule kulokho. Kufanele ucindezele kulokho. Lapho-ke ungaqala ukuzibandakanya nenqubo ecabangayo. Ngakho-ke, mina noRon sakhuluma kakhulu ngalokho.

Ngakhuluma namanye amalungu abefundisi. Futhi angicabangi ukuthi ngikhulume naye, kodwa ngakhuluma ngaye ngaleso sikhathi - ngoba ngangilandela imisebenzi yakhe eminingi nezintshumayelo, futhi ungumngane wami, uMfundisi James Forbes, ongumfundisi weRiverside Church, uMfundisi. UWilliam Sloane Coffin. Futhi phambilini babekhuluma ngezimpi nje, yiziphi izimpi ezazimayelana nazo, yiziphi izindlela zokulwa nezimpi nje. Futhi-ke, niyazi, ukholo lwami belunesisindo, kepha bekuyisidingo somthethosisekelo sokuthi amalungu eCongress angeke anikeze umthwalo wethu kunoma yiliphi igatsha eliphethe, kumongameli, noma ngabe uyiDemocrat noma umongameli weRepublican.

Ngakho-ke ngafinyelela esinqumweni sokuthi - uma nje ngifunde lesi sinqumo, ngoba sasinaso ngaphambili, ngasiphindisela emuva, akekho owayengakusekela lokho. Futhi lapho bebuyisa owesibili, kwakusabanzi ngokweqile, amagama angama-60, futhi konke okwakushiwo ukuthi umongameli angasebenzisa amandla unomphela, inqobo nje uma leso sizwe, umuntu noma inhlangano ixhunywe ku-9/11. Ngiqonde ukuthi, bekungukuncishwa ngokuphelele isibopho sethu njengamalungu eCongress. Futhi bengazi ngaleso sikhathi ukuthi bekubeka isiteji - futhi bengilokhu ngikubiza kanjalo - izimpi zaphakade, ngokungapheli.

Ngakho-ke, ngenkathi ngisethempelini elikhulu, ngezwa uMfundisi uNathan Baxter ngenkathi ethi, "Njengoba sisebenza, masingabi ngababi esibasolayo." Ngabhala lokho ohlelweni, futhi ngangizinza kahle-ke lapho ngiya enkonzweni yesikhumbuzo, ngangazi ukuthi ngingu-95% wokuvota cha. Kepha lapho ngimuzwa, lokho bekuyi-100%. Ngangazi ukuthi kufanele ngivote cha.

Futhi empeleni, ngaphambi kokuya enkonzweni yesikhumbuzo, ngangingeke ngiye. Ngikhulume no-Elijah Cummings. Besikhuluma ngemuva kwamagumbi. Futhi kukhona okuvele kwangikhuthaza kwangishukumisela ukuthi ngithi, “Cha, Eliya, ngiyahamba,” bese ngigijima ngehla ngezitebhisi. Ngicabanga ukuthi ngigcine ukubakhona ebhasini. Kwakuwusuku olumnyama nolunemvula, futhi ngangiphethe ikani le-ginger esandleni sami. Angisoze ngakukhohlwa lokho. Futhi ngakho, lokho kungathi, niyazi, yini eholele kulokhu. Kepha bekuyisikhathi esibuhlungu kakhulu ezweni.

Futhi-ke, ngangizihlalele eCapitol futhi kwakudingeka ngiphume ngalolo suku ekuseni namalungu ambalwa eBlack Caucus kanye nomphathi we-Small Business Administration. Futhi bekufanele sisuke ngo-8: 15, 8:30. Ngangingazi ukuthi kungani, ngaphandle kokuthi “Phuma lapha.” Ngabheka emuva, ngabona intuthu, futhi kwakuyiPentagon leyo eyayishayiwe. Kepha nakuleyo ndiza, kuFlight 93, eyayingena eCapitol, umphathi wami, uSandré Swanson, umzala wakhe kwakunguWanda Green, omunye wabasebenza endizeni kuFlight 93. Futhi-ke, kuleli sonto Bengilokhu ngicabanga ngawo wonke umuntu olahlekelwe yimpilo yakhe, imiphakathi engakalulami namanje. Futhi lawo maqhawe namaqhawe akuFlight 93, owathatha leya ndiza wehla, ngabe asindisa impilo yami futhi asindisa nezimpilo zalabo abaseCapitol.

Ngakho-ke, bekulokhu, uyazi, umzuzu odabukisa kakhulu. Sonke sasidabukile. Besithukuthele. Sasikhathazekile. Futhi wonke umuntu, vele, wayefuna ukuletha amaphekula enkantolo, kubandakanya nami. Angiyena umuntu othanda ukulwa. Ngakho-ke, cha, ngiyindodakazi yesikhulu sezempi. Kepha ngiyazi - ubaba wami wayeseMpini Yezwe II naseKorea, futhi ngiyazi ukuthi kusho ukuthini ukungena ezimpini. Ngakho-ke, angiyena umuntu ongathi masisebenzise inketho yezempi njengenketho yokuqala, ngoba ngiyazi ukuthi singabhekana nezinkinga ezimalunga nempi nokuthula nobuphekula ngezinye izindlela.

AMY U-GOODMAN: Ngakho-ke, kwenzekani ngemuva kokuphuma phansi kweNdlu, unikeza leyo nkulumo emangazayo yemizuzu emibili futhi ubuyela ehhovisi lakho? Basabela kanjani?

Rep. Barbara I-LEE: Yebo, ngabuyela egumbini lezingubo, futhi wonke umuntu wagijimela emuva ezongilanda. Futhi ngiyakhumbula. Amalungu amaningi - angama-25% kuphela amalungu ngonyaka ka-2001 akhonzayo manje, nazi, kepha kusenabaningi abakhonzayo. Futhi babuyela kimi futhi, ngenxa yobungane, bathi, "Kuzofanele ushintshe ivoti lakho." Kwakungeyona into efana nokuthi, "Yini engalungile ngawe?" noma “Anazi yini ukuthi kufanele nibe nobunye?” ngoba lokhu bekuyinkundla: “Kufanele ubumbane nomongameli. Asikwazi ukufaka ipolitiki kulokhu. Kumele kube ngamaRepublican namaDemocrats. ” Kodwa abezanga kimi kanjalo. Bathe, “UBarbara” - elinye ilungu lathi, “Uyazi, wenza umsebenzi omkhulu kangako HIV futhi AIDS. ” Lokhu kwaba lapho ngangiphakathi kokusebenza noBush emhlabeni jikelele IPEPFAR kanye neGlobal Fund. “Ngeke uwine ekukhetheni kwakho kabusha. Sikudinga lapha. ” Elinye ilungu lathi, “Awazi ukuthi ingozi izokuvela, Barbara? Asifuni ulimale. Uyazi, udinga ukubuyela emuva uyoshintsha lelo voti. ”

Amalungu amaningana abuya ezothi, “Uqinisekile? Uyazi, uvotele cha. Uqinisekile?" Kwase kuthi omunye wabangane bami abahle - futhi wakusho lokhu esidlangalaleni - Inkosikazi kaKhongolose uLynn Woolsey, yena nami sakhuluma, wathi, “Kufanele ushintshe ivoti lakho, Barbara.” Uthi, “Ngisho nendodana yami” - wangitshela ukuthi umndeni wakhe uthe, “Lesi yisikhathi esinzima ezweni. Futhi ngisho nami uqobo, niyazi, kufanele sibe munye, futhi sizovota. Udinga ukushintsha ivoti lakho. ” Futhi bekungokungikhathalela kuphela lapho amalungu eza ezongicela ukuthi ngishintshe ivoti lami.

Manje kamuva, umama wathi - umama wami ongasekho wathi, “Bekufanele bangibize,” kusho yena, “ngoba bengizobatshela lokho ngemuva kokuthi ubonisene ekhanda lakho futhi wakhuluma nabantu, uma ufinyelele esinqumweni , ukuthi unamakhanda amahle futhi unenkani. Kuzothatha okuningi ukukwenza ushintshe umqondo wakho. Kodwa awuzenzi kalula lezi zinqumo. ” Uthe, "Uhlala uvule njalo." Umama wangitshela lokho. Uthe, “Bekufanele bangibize. Bengizobatshela. ”

Ngakho-ke, ngabuyela ehhovisi. Futhi ifoni yami yaqala ukukhala. Impela, ngibheke phezulu kuthelevishini, futhi kwakukhona, uyazi, ithikha elincane elalithi, "Umuntu ngeke avote." Futhi ngicabanga ukuthi enye intatheli yayithi, “Kazi ngubani lowo.” Ngemuva kwalokho kwavela igama lami.

Futhi-ke, awu, ngakho-ke ngiqale ukuhamba ngibuyela ehhovisi lami. Ucingo lwaqala ukuqhuma. Ucingo lokuqala lwaluvela kubaba wami, uLieutenant - empeleni, eminyakeni yakhe yokugcina, wayefuna ngimbize ngoColonel Tutt. Wayeziqhenya kakhulu ngokuba sempini. Nakulokhu, iMpi Yesibili Yomhlaba, wayesebuthweni lama-92, okwakuyilo kuphela ibutho lase-Afrika laseMelika e-Italy, elisekela ukuhlasela kweNormandy, KULUNGILE? Futhi kamuva waya eKorea. Futhi wayengumuntu wokuqala owangishayela ucingo. Futhi wathi, “Ungashintshi ivoti lakho. Lelo kwaba yivoti elifanele ”- ngoba ngangingakaze ngikhulume naye ngaphambili. Bengingaqiniseki. Ngathi, “Hhayi, angisazobiza ubaba okwamanje. Ngizokhuluma nomama. ” Uthi, "Awuthumeli amasosha ethu ngendlela eyingozi." Uthe, “Ngiyazi ukuthi izimpi zinjani. Ngiyazi ukuthi kwenzani emindenini. ” Wathi, “Awuna - awazi ukuthi bayaphi. Wenzani? ICongress izobabeka kanjani nje ngaphandle kwamasu, ngaphandle kohlelo, iCongress ingazi okungenani ukuthi kwenzekani? ” Ngakho, wathi, “Yivoti elifanele lelo. Namathela kuyo. ” Futhi wayeneqiniso - ngakho-ke ngazizwa ngijabule kakhulu ngalokho. Ngazizwa ngiziqhenya ngempela.

Kodwa izinsongo zokubulawa zeza. Uyazi, angikwazi ngisho ukukutshela imininingwane yokuthi kubi kangakanani. Abantu benza izinto ezimbi ngaleso sikhathi kimi. Kepha, njengoba uMaya Angelou asho, "Futhi namanje ngiyavuka," futhi siyaqhubeka nje. Futhi izincwadi nama-imeyili nezingcingo ezazinenzondo enkulu futhi zinenzondo futhi zingibiza ngomkhohlisi futhi zathi ngenze isenzo sokuvukela umbuso, konke kuseMills College, i-alma mater yami.

Kepha futhi, bekukhona - empeleni, ama-40% alokho ukuxhumana - kukhona ama-60,000 - 40% ahle kakhulu. UMbhishobhi Tutu, uCoretta Scott King, ngiqonde ukuthi, abantu abavela kuwo wonke umhlaba bathumele imiyalezo emihle kakhulu kimi.

Futhi kusukela lapho - futhi ngizovala ngokuhlanganyela nje le ndaba eyodwa, ngoba lokhu kungemva kweqiniso, eminyakeni embalwa edlule. Njengoba iningi lenu lazi, ngangisekela uKamala Harris njengomongameli, ngakho-ke ngangiseNingizimu Carolina, njenge-surrogate, emhlanganweni omkhulu, ukuphepha yonke indawo. Futhi lo mfana omude, omkhulu omhlophe onengane encane uza ngesixuku - akunjalo? - ngezinyembezi emehlweni akhe. Yini lena emhlabeni? Weza kimi, wathi kimi - wathi, “Ngingomunye walabo abathumele incwadi esongelayo. Bengingomunye wabo. ” Futhi wehla konke akusho kimi. Ngathi, “Ngiyethemba amaphoyisa awakuzwa usho lokho.” Kodwa ungomunye owangisongela. Uthe, “Futhi ngize lapha ngizoxolisa. Futhi ngilethe indodana yami lapha, ngoba bengifuna ukuthi ingibone ikutshela ukuthi ngixolise kangakanani nokuthi ubuqinisile kanjani, futhi yazi nje ukuthi lolu wusuku kimi ebengilulindele. ”

Futhi-ke, ngi - eminyakeni edlule, abantu abaningi, abaningi beze, ngezindlela ezehlukene, ukusho lokho. Futhi-ke, yilokho okwangigcina ngiqhubeka, ngezindlela eziningi, ngazi ukuthi - uyazi, ngenxa yeWin Without War, ngenxa yeKomidi Labangane, ngenxa I-IPS, ngenxa yamaVeterans wethu Wokuthula nawo wonke amaqembu abesebenza ezweni lonke, ehlela, egqugquzela, efundisa umphakathi, abantu sebeqalile ukuqonda ukuthi lokhu kumayelana nani nokuthi kusho ukuthini. Futhi-ke, kufanele ngibonge wonke umuntu ngokuzungezisa izinqola, ngoba bekungelula, kodwa ngoba nonke benikhona, abantu beza kimi manje basho izinto ezinhle futhi bangisekele ngokuningi - uthando oluningi.

AMY U-GOODMAN: Yebo, uCongressmember Lee, manje sekuyiminyaka engama-20 kamuva, futhi uMongameli Biden ukhiphe amasosha ase-US e-Afghanistan. Uhlaselwa ngonya ngabobili bamaDemokhrasi kanye namaRiphabhulikhi ngeziyaluyalu zamasonto ambalwa edlule. Futhi kube khona - iCongress ibiza uphenyo ngokwenzekile. Kepha ucabanga ukuthi uphenyo kufanele lunabele kuyo yonke iminyaka engama-20 yempi ende kunazo zonke emlandweni wase-US?

Rep. Barbara I-LEE: Ngicabanga ukuthi sidinga uphenyo. Angazi noma kuyafana yini. Kodwa, okokuqala, mangisho ukuthi bengingomunye wamalungu ambalwa asheshe aphuma lapho, eseka umongameli: “Uthathe isinqumo esifanele impela.” Futhi, empeleni, ngiyazi ukuthi uma singahlala lapho ngempi eminye iminyaka eyisihlanu, eyishumi, eyishumi nanhlanu, engama-10, kungenzeka sibe sendaweni embi kakhulu, ngoba asikho isixazululo sezempi e-Afghanistan, futhi asikwazi ukwakha isizwe. Lokho kunikezwe.

Futhi-ke, ngenkathi kwakunzima kuye, sakhuluma kakhulu ngalokhu ngesikhathi somkhankaso. Futhi ngangisekomitini elibhala phansi ipulatifomu, futhi ungabuyela emuva bese ubheka ukuthi bobabili uBernie nabeluleki beBiden endaweni yesikhulumi baqhamuka nani. Ngakho-ke, kwakuyizethembiso ezenziwe, izithembiso zigcinwa. Futhi wayazi ukuthi lesi kwakuyisinqumo esinzima. Wenze okulungile.

Kepha uma sengikushilo lokho, yebo, ukukhishwa kwaba namatshe impela ekuqaleni, futhi kwakungekho hlelo. Ngisho, angiqageli; bekungabonakali kimi ukuthi kuyisu. Besingazi - ngisho, angicabangi, iKomidi Lezobunhloli. Okungenani, bekuyiphutha noma cha - noma ubuhlakani obungenakuphikwa, ngicabanga, ngamaTaliban. Futhi-ke, bekunezimbobo eziningi nezikhala esizofunda ngazo.

Sinesibopho sokwengamela ukuthola, okokuqala, ukuthi kwenzekeni njengoba kuhlobene nokukhishwa kwabantu, yize kwakuphawuleka ukuthi baningi kangaka - yini? - abantu abangaphezu kuka-120,000 basuswa. Ngisho ukuthi, woza, emasontweni ambalwa? Ngicabanga ukuthi lokho ngukukhishwa okungakholeki okwenzekile. Namanje abantu basele lapho, abesifazane namantombazane. Kufanele sivikele, siqiniseke ukuthi bavikelekile, futhi siqiniseke ukuthi kunendlela yokusiza ngemfundo yabo futhi sikhiphe wonke amaMelika, wonke umlingani wase-Afghan aphume. Ngakho-ke kusenomsebenzi omningi okufanele wenziwe, ozodinga eziningi zezingxoxo zezombusazwe - izindlela eziningi zokubonisana ukuze zikufeze lokho.

Kepha ekugcineni, ake ngithi nje, uyazi, umhloli okhethekile wokwakhiwa kabusha kwe-Afghanistan, uphume nemibiko kaninginingi. Eyokugcina, ngifuna ukufunda nje okuncane ngokuthi eyokugcina - isanda kuphuma emasontweni ambalwa edlule. Uthe, "Besingahlonyiselwe ukuba se-Afghanistan." Uthe, "Lona bekungumbiko ozoveza izifundo ezitholakele futhi uhlose ukubuza imibuzo kubenzi bezinqubomgomo kunokwenza izincomo ezintsha." Umbiko uphinde wathola ukuthi uhulumeni wase-United States - futhi lokhu kukulo mbiko - "akawuqondi umongo wase-Afghanistan, kubandakanya nomphakathi, amasiko nezepolitiki." Ngokwengeziwe - futhi le yi ISIGAR, umhloli jikelele okhethekile - wathi "izikhulu zase-US zazingavamile ngisho nokuqonda okuncane ngemvelo yase-Afghanistan," - ngifunda lokhu embikweni - futhi "kakhulu ukuthi bekusabela kanjani ukungenelela kwe-US," nokuthi lokhu kungazi kwakuvame ukuvela “ukungayinaki ngamabomu imininingwane okungenzeka yayitholakala.”

Futhi ubelokhu - le mibiko ibiphuma iminyaka engama-20 edlule. Futhi besilokhu sinokulalelwa kanye nezithangami futhi sizama ukukwenza kube sesidlangalaleni, ngoba kusesidlangalaleni. Futhi-ke, yebo, sidinga ukubuyela emuva siyokwenza i-dive ejulile kanye ne-drill-down. Kepha futhi sidinga ukwenza imisebenzi yethu yokwengamela maqondana nalokhu okusanda kwenzeka, ukuze kungaphinde kwenzeke, kepha futhi ukuze iminyaka engama-20 edlule, lapho siqapha okwenzekile, ingaphinde yenzeke, noma .

AMY U-GOODMAN: Futhi ekugcineni, kule ngxenye kusihlwa, ikakhulukazi kubantu abasha, yini ekunikeze isibindi sokuma wedwa ukulwa nempi?

Rep. Barbara I-LEE: Hhayi bo. Yebo, ngingumuntu wokholo. Okokuqala, ngathandaza. Okwesibili, ngingowesifazane oMnyama eMelika. Futhi ngibhekane nobunzima obukhulu kuleli, njengabo bonke abesifazane abaMnyama.

Umama wami - nami kufanele sabelane ngale ndaba, ngoba iqale ngesikhathi sokuzalwa. Ngazalelwa futhi ngakhulela e-El Paso, eTexas. Futhi umama waya - wayedinga isigaba se-C futhi waya esibhedlela. Babengeke bamvume ngoba wayemnyama. Futhi kuthathe okuningi kakhulu ukuthi ekugcineni angeniswe esibhedlela. Kakhulu. Ngesikhathi engena, bese kwephuze kakhulu ukuthola isigaba se-C. Futhi bavele bamshiya lapho. Futhi othile umbonile. Wayesequlekile. Futhi-ke bona, niyazi, bambona nje elele ehholo. Bavele bamgqokisa, wathi, igurney bamshiya lapho. Futhi-ke, ekugcineni, babengazi ukuthi benzeni. Futhi-ke bamngenisa ngaphakathi - futhi wangitshela ukuthi kwakuyigumbi lezimo eziphuthumayo, kwakungeyona ngisho negumbi lokulethwa kwezingane. Futhi bagcina bezama ukuthola ukuthi emhlabeni bazoyisindisa kanjani impilo yakhe, ngoba ngaleso sikhathi wayesequlekile. Futhi-ke kudingeke ukuthi bangikhiphe esiswini sikamama besebenzisa amandla, uyangizwa? Kusetshenziswa i-forceps. Ngakho-ke cishe angifikanga lapha. Ngacishe ngahluleka ukuphefumula. Ngacishe ngafa ngokubeletha. Umama wacishe wafa enami. Ngakho-ke, uyazi, njengengane, ngiqonde ukuthini, ngingathini? Ukube benginesibindi sokufika lapha, nomama abe nesibindi sokungizala, ngicabanga ukuthi konke okunye kufana nokuthi akunankinga.

AMY U-GOODMAN: Yebo, Congressmember Lee, kube yintokozo ukukhuluma nawe, oyilungu lobuholi be-House Democratic, isikhundla esiphakeme -

AMY U-GOODMAN: I-California Congressmember uBarbara Lee, yebo, manje usesikhathini sakhe se-12. Ungowesifazane ophakeme kakhulu wase-Afrika waseMelika eCongress. Ngo-2001, Septhemba 14, ezinsukwini ezintathu nje ngemuva kokuhlaselwa kuka-9/11, wayeyilungu elilodwa leCongress lokuvota ngokumelene nokugunyazwa kwezempi - ivoti lokugcina, 420 kuya ku-1.

Ngenkathi ngixoxa naye ngoLwesithathu kusihlwa, wayeseCalifornia ekhankasela ukweseka uMbusi uGavin Newsom ngaphambi kokhetho lwangoLwesibili, kanye nePhini likaMongameli uKamula Harris, owazalelwa e-Oakland. UBarbara Lee umele i-Oakland. NgoMsombuluko, iNewsom izokhankasa noMengameli uJoe Biden. Lokhu Intando yeningi Manje! Hlala nathi.

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AMY U-GOODMAN: "Khumbula uRockefeller e-Attica" nguCharles Mingus. Ukuvukela kwejele e-Attica kwaqala eminyakeni engama-50 edlule. Kwathi ngo-Septhemba 13, 1971, uMbusi waseNew York ngaleso sikhathi uNelson Rockefeller wayala amasosha ombuso ahlomile ukuba ahlasele leli jele. Babulala abantu abangu-39, okubalwa kubo iziboshwa nonogada. NgoMsombuluko, sizobheka ukuvukela kwe-Attica ngosuku lokugubha iminyaka engu-50.