by Intando yeningi Manje, Ngo-September 1, i-2021
Ividiyo ephelele lapha: https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2021/8/31?autostart=true
Ngenkathi i-United States iqeda ukuba khona kwayo kwezempi e-Afghanistan ngemuva kweminyaka engu-20 isetshenzisiwe nempi, Izindleko Zempi zilinganisela ukuthi zachitha imali engaphezulu kwama- $ 2.2 trillion e-Afghanistan nasePakistan, futhi ngokubala okukodwa, kwafa abantu abangaphezu kuka-170,000 ngesikhathi kuliwa lezi ezimbili zokugcina amashumi eminyaka. UKathy Kelly, isishoshovu sesikhathi eside sokuthula esike sahambela e-Afghanistan izikhathi eziningi futhi sixhumanise umkhankaso weBan Killer Drones, uthi kuzobaluleka ukugcina ukugxila komhlaba wonke kubantu base-Afghanistan. "Wonke umuntu e-United States nakuwo wonke amazwe ahlasele futhi ahlala e-Afghanistan kufanele enze inkokhelo," kusho uKelly. "Akukhona kuphela ukukhokhelwa kwemali ngalokhu kubhujiswa okubi okwenziwe, kepha futhi nokubhekana nezinhlelo zempi okufanele zibekelwe eceleni futhi ziqedwe."
AMY U-GOODMAN: Lokhu Intando yeningi Manje!, democracynow.org, I-War and Peace Report. Ngingu-Amy Goodman, noJuan González.
Amasosha aseMelika nezikhulu zakhe bahoxile e-Afghanistan ngaphambi nje kwamabili eKabul ngoMsombuluko ebusuku. Ngenkathi lesi sinyathelo sichazwa njengesiphelo sempi ende kunazo zonke emlandweni wase-US, abanye baxwayisa ukuthi impi kungenzeka ingapheli ngempela. NgeSonto, kuvele uNobhala Wezwe uTony Blinken Hlangana noCindezela futhi saxoxa ngamakhono aseMelika okuqhubeka nokuhlasela i-Afghanistan ngemuva kokuthi amasosha ehoxile.
ISOLEZWE OF STATE Antony BLINKEN: Sinesikhundla emhlabeni jikelele, kufaka phakathi nase-Afghanistan, ukuthatha - ukuthola nokuthatha iziteleka ezibhekene namaphekula afuna ukusilimaza. Futhi njengoba wazi, emazweni ngamazwe, kufaka phakathi izindawo ezinjengeYemen, njengeSomalia, izingxenye ezinkulu zaseSyria, iLibya, izindawo lapho singenamabhuthi phansi nganoma yiluphi uhlobo oluqhubekayo, sinamandla okulandela abantu abazama ukusilimaza. Sizowugcina lowo mandla e-Afghanistan.
AMY U-GOODMAN: Emuva ngo-Ephreli, I-New York Times kubika i-United States kulindeleke ukuthi iqhubeke nokuthembela, ekucashunweni, “inhlanganisela eyisithunzi yamabutho eSpecial Operations Force, osonkontileka bePentagon kanye nabasebenza ngokufihla ubuhlakani” ngaphakathi e-Afghanistan. Akucaci ukuthi lezi zinhlelo ziguquke kanjani kulandela ukuthatha kweTaliban.
Ukuze uthole okwengeziwe, sijoyine iChicago yisishoshovu sesikhathi eside sokuthula uKathy Kelly. Uqokwe njengomklomelo weNobel Peace Prize kaninginingi. Uhambele e-Afghanistan kaningi.
Kathy, wamukelekile futhi Intando yeningi Manje! Ungaqala ngokuphendula kulokhu okudunyiswayo emaphephandabeni ase-US njengoba impi ende kunazo zonke emlandweni wase-US isiphelile?
UKUKHALA KELLY: U-Ann Jones wake wabhala incwadi enesihloko esithi Impi Akuphelile Uma Kuphelile. Impela, kubantu base-Afghanistan, abahlukunyezwe yile mpi, yizimo zesomiso esesabekayo iminyaka emibili, igagasi lesithathu Covid, amaqiniso asabekayo ezomnotho, basabhekene nokuhlupheka okukhulu.
Futhi iziteleka ze-drone, ngicabanga, ziyizinkomba zokuthi - lezi ziteleka zakamuva kakhulu ze-drone, ukuthi i-United States ayibekanga eceleni inhloso yayo yokuqhubeka nokusebenzisa lokho abakubiza ngokuthi amandla namandla, kepha yilokho uDaniel Hale, osejele manje , ukhombisile ukuthi i-90% yesikhathi ayizange izishaye izisulu ebezihlosiwe. Futhi lokhu kuzodala izifiso eziningi zokuziphindisela nokuphindisela nokuchitha igazi.
JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Futhi, Kathy, bengifuna ukukubuza, maqondana nalokhu - ucabanga ukuthi abantu baseMelika bazothola izifundo ezihamba phambili kulesi simo esibi e-Afghanistan, lokhu kwehlulwa okusobala kwe-United States nomsebenzi wayo? Ngemuva kokuthi sesibone manje iminyaka engama-70 ibutho lamasosha aseMelika lisetshenziswa kule misebenzi, kusuka eKorea kuya eVietnam kuya eLibya kuya - amaBalkan ukuphela kwento i-US engakwazi ukulufuna njengokunqoba. Kube nenhlekelele ngemuva kwenhlekelele, manje eyi-Afghanistan. Yisiphi isifundo onethemba lokuthi abantu bethu bazosifunda kule misebenzi emibi kangaka?
UKUKHALA KELLY: Yebo, Juan, uyazi, ngicabanga ukuthi amazwi ka-Abraham Heschel ayasebenza: Abanye banecala; bonke bayaphendula. Ngicabanga ukuthi wonke umuntu e-United States nakuwo wonke amazwe ahlasele futhi ahlala e-Afghanistan kufanele enze inkokhelo futhi akufune ngobuqotho lokho, hhayi kuphela ukukhokhelwa kwezezimali ngokubhujiswa okubi okubangelwe, kepha nokubhekana nezinhlelo osanda kuzisho ukuthi zidlalile emazweni ngamazwe, izinhlelo zempi okufanele zibekelwe eceleni futhi ziqedwe. Lesi yisifundo engicabanga ukuthi abantu base-US kumele basifunde. Kepha, uyazi, bekukhona ukusabalala okuningi emasontweni amabili edlule yimithombo yezindaba ejwayelekile yase-Afghanistan kunalokho obekuyikho eminyakeni eyedlule ye-20, ngakho-ke abantu abasekelwa ngabezindaba ngokuqonda imiphumela yezimpi zethu.
AMY U-GOODMAN: Awukho ebhizinisini, uKathy, wokuncoma omongameli base-US uma kukhulunywa ngempi. Futhi lo bekungumongameli wase-US omunye emva komunye, ngicabanga, okungenani, ngokuphelele. Ngabe ucabanga ukuthi uBiden ubenesibindi kwezepolitiki ekukhipheni, kuze kufike ezingeni lokuthi, esidlangalaleni, ibutho lokugcina lase-US, isithombe esithunyelwe yiPentagon, ngujenene engena esiphathweni sokugcina sokuhamba ahambe?
UKUKHALA KELLY: Ngicabanga ukuthi ngabe uMongameli Biden wayethi uzokwenyuka ayokulwa nesicelo se-United States Air Force sama- $ 10 billion ukuvumela ukuhlaselwa okwedlulele, lokho bekungaba uhlobo lwesibindi sezepolitiki esidinga ukusibona. Sidinga umongameli ozomelana nezinkampani ezisebenza ngezinkontileka ezenza izigidi ngezigidi ngokukhangisa ngezikhali zazo, bese ethi, “Sesiqedile ngakho konke.” Yilolo hlobo lwesibindi sezepolitiki esisidingayo.
AMY U-GOODMAN: Futhi ukuhlaselwa okwedlulele, kwabantu abangalazi leli gama, ukuthi kusho ukuthini, i-US isethwe kanjani ukuhlasela i-Afghanistan manje ivela ngaphandle?
UKUKHALA KELLY: Yebo, amaRandi ayizigidi eziyizinkulungwane ezingama- $ 10 aceliwe yi-US Air Force azogcina ukubhekwa kwe-drone kanye nokuhlasela umthamo we-drone namandla endiza anamandla eKuwait, e-United Arab Emirates, eQatar nasendizeni naphakathi nolwandle. Futhi-ke, lokhu kuzohlala kwenza ukuthi i-United States iqhubeke nokuhlasela, imvamisa abantu okungezona izisulu ezihlosiwe, futhi nokuthi nakwamanye amazwe esifundeni, "Sisekhona."
AMY U-GOODMAN: Siyakubonga, Kathy, kakhulu ngokuba nathi. Imizuzwana eyishumi ekubuyiseleni. Kungabukeka kanjani, uma uthi i-US ikweleta abantu base-Afghanistan?
UKUKHALA KELLY: Inani elikhulu lemali elifakwa yi-US nayo yonke i- I-NATO amazwe ku-akhawunti ye-escrow, lokho bekungeke kube ngaphansi kokuholwa noma ukusatshalaliswa kwe-United States. Izwe laseMelika selivele likhombisile ukuthi ngeke likwazi ukwenza lokho ngaphandle kwenkohlakalo nokwehluleka. Kepha ngicabanga ukuthi kuzofanele sibheke kwi-UN kanye namaqembu anedumela lokukwazi ukusiza abantu e-Afghanistan, bese kuthi izinhlawulo ngokuqeda uhlelo lwempi.
AMY U-GOODMAN: UKathy Kelly, isishoshovu nombhali sesikhathi eside sokuthula, elinye lamalungu asungula amaVoices eWilderness, kamuva iVoices for Creative Nonviolence, kanye nomxhumanisi womkhankaso weBan Killer Drones kanye nelungu le World Beyond War. Useke waya e-Afghanistan cishe izikhathi ezingama-30.
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