ngu-Reto Thumiger, I-Pressenza, Okthoba 12, 2021
Ezinsukwini ezimbalwa ngaphambi kwe-IPB World Peace Congress 2021 eBarcelona, sakhuluma noReiner Braun, uMqondisi Omkhulu we-International Peace Bureau (IPB) mayelana nokuthi inhlangano yokuthula, izinyunyana zabasebenzi kanye nenhlangano yezemvelo ingahlangana kanjani, kungani sidinga ukuthula Ingqungquthela yesikhuthazo nentsha, ezokwenzeka ngokuphelele ingxube kusuka ngo-15-17 Okthoba eBarcelona nokuthi kungani kungumzuzu ofanele ngayo.
Impendulo ivela ku- Thumiger: Siyabonga ngokuthatha isikhathi senhlolokhono, Reiner othandekayo.
Amashumi eminyaka okuzinikela kwakho ngokungakhathali ekuthuleni akwenze waba umuntu owaziwayo enhlanganweni yokuthula. Njengoba ngithemba ukuthi abantu abaningi abangakabi izishoshovu zokuthula bazoyifunda le ngxoxo, ngicela ukuthi uzethule kafushane.
U-Reiner Braun: Ngibambe iqhaza ekubumbeni inhlangano yokuthula ezweni lonke nakwamanye amazwe iminyaka emihle ye-40, ezikhundleni ezihlukene kakhulu zomthwalo wemfanelo: njengelungu labasebenzi be-Krefeld Appeal kuma-1980s, njengoMqondisi Omkhulu we-Natural Scientists for Peace, kamuva kwe-IALANA. (Lawyers Against Nuclear Weapons) kanye ne-VDW (Inhlangano Yososayensi BaseJalimane). Eminyakeni embalwa edlule ngaba nguMongameli wokuqala ngase ngaba uMqondisi Omkhulu we-IPB (International Peace Bureau) kuze kube namuhla. Obekuhlale kubaluleke kakhulu kimina ukuthi bengimatasa nemikhankaso yokulwa nezikhali zenuzi, ye-“Stop Ramstein Air Base” kanye nomkhankaso othi “Disarm instead of Rearm”. Ngibe nenjabulo enkulu yokuba yingxenye yamakhulu mhlawumbe ngisho nezinkulungwane zezenzo ezincane nemisebenzi kodwa futhi nokugqamisa okukhulu; imibhikisho yase-Bonn, ngokumelene nempi yase-Iraq, ku-Artist for Peace kodwa nasezenzweni ze-World Social Forum. Kafushane nje, ukuthula kuye kwaba nethonya elikhulu ekuphileni kwami. Naphezu kwabo bonke ubunzima, izinkinga nezingxabano, bekuyiminyaka emihle enabantu abathakazelisa ngendlela emangalisayo nobumbano oluningi nothando. Lokhu akukushintshi ukuqiniseka kwami ukuthi isimo samanje asiyona nje ingozi kuphela kodwa futhi sicindezela kakhulu. Kungenzeka yini ukuthi siphila enkathini yangaphambi kwempi yempi enkulu entsha enezikhali zenuzi eziphuma esifundeni sase-Indo-Pacific?
Sineziphakamiso ezanele zokusindisa umhlaba
The IPB World Peace Congress, okwenzeka e-Barcelona kusukela ngo-15 - 17 Okthoba, kulandela iCongress of the same name ebanjwe eBerlin ngo-2016, eyaphumelela kakhulu. Kuningi okwenzekile eminyakeni emi-5. Yiziphi izindawo okugxilwe kuzo kulesi sikhathi, yiziphi izinjongo namathemba owahlanganisa nokhongolose?
Umhlaba usempambanweni wezindlela ezibalulekile: ungena enhlekeleleni yezenhlalo nezemvelo nepolitiki yokungqubuzana nempi, noma ukuthola indlela yokuphuma, engingayichaza njengoguquko oluyisisekelo lokuthula kwezenhlalo nemvelo. Ukusiza ukuthola izindlela zokuphuma kulesi simo umgomo omkhulu we-IPB World Congress. Imayelana nezinselele ezinkulu zesikhathi sethu. Akukona mayelana nephepha le-100th lamasu - sineziphakamiso ezanele zokusindisa umhlaba. Kumayelana nezihloko zezinguquko kanye nokwakhiwa komfelandawonye kanye nezenzo eziningi zenethiwekhi nezamazwe ngamazwe. Abantu babumba umlando: yilokho le ngqungquthela okuhloswe ngayo ukufaka isandla kanye nokugqugquzela. Inhlangano yokuthula kanye nezinyunyana zabasebenzi, inhlangano yezemvelo, nokuthula kungahlangana kanjani? Yiziphi izindlela ezintsha zezishoshovu ezintsha kusukela ngoLwesihlanu lwekusasa kuya enhlanganweni yokuthula, ngaphandle kokuwusebenzisa futhi nokuphazamisa ukukhathazeka kwabo okuyimbangela? Lena yimibuzo ukhongolose efuna ukuyiphendula ngokubambisana nabo bonke ababambe iqhaza ezinhlakeni ezahlukene.
Ukuhlukahluka kwangempela kwamazwe ngamazwe kanye nokuhlukahluka kufanele kubonakale. I-Asia, "izwekazi lesikhathi esizayo" futhi mhlawumbe kufanele ngithi "izwekazi lempi" lekusasa elinezimpi ezinkulu nakakhulu lizolibumba ngokwengqondo. Ukungqubuzana kwe-NATO neRussia, izingalo ezincane kanye neLatin America, imiphumela yokuthula yalolu bhubhane, kodwa futhi ne-Australia kanye nemikhumbi-ngwenya yenuzi emisha, amaphuzu ambalwa amaphakathi.
Lingaba kanjani iqiniso iphupho lezwe elinokuthula nelinobulungisa?
Izinselelo zobulili, ukucindezelwa okukhethekile kwabantu bomdabu - izindaba ezihlala zihlobene nempi nokuthula.
Kunjalo, izimfuno zokuncishiswa kwezikhali, umhlaba ongenazo izikhali zenuzi, ukuxazululwa kwezingxabano ngokuthula kanye nemfundo yokuthula kuyizici ezibalulekile zeNgqungquthela Yomhlaba. Kodwa yonke into ingaphansi komcabango wengoma ethi "Cabanga" kaJohn Lennon: lingaba kanjani iqiniso lephupho lezwe elinokuthula nelinobulungisa. Yini sonke, ndawonye, esingayenzela lokhu, noma ngabe sivelaphi, noma yini esiyicabangayo, noma yini elolonge izimpilo zethu kuze kube manje. Kudingeka sihlangane ezenzweni ezengeziwe, ezinkulu nezamazwe ngamazwe zesikhathi esizayo - ukushiya ukukhathala, isimo sombukeli.
Mhlawumbe yilapho isiqubulo seForamu singena khona: “(Phinda) ucabange umhlaba wethu: Isenzo Sokuthula Nobulungisa”: Isenzo Sokuthula Nobulungisa”?
Yebo, lesi siqubulo sihloselwe ukukhumbuza, ukuvusa imibono kanye nokubiza isinyathelo: Wena wedwa ungase ube buthakathaka kakhulu, singakwenza ndawonye. Akuhlelwanga kusengaphambili ukuthi izinkampani nepolitiki ebusayo isifake kwalasha. Ngakho-ke futhi kuyingqungquthela yokukhuthaza ngaphandle kokuthi, nokho, kube nokukhohlisa mayelana nokuthi kuzoba nzima kangakanani ukulwa nentsha. Asiklami kuphela ngokuzimela imisebenzi eyahlukene eyahlukene yentsha ye-IPB enkoseleni, kodwa futhi u-40% wazo zonke izikhulumi zingaphansi kwama-40.
Ukubamba iqhaza kweHybrid kungenzeka kuze kube umzuzu wokugcina futhi i-Barcelona ihlale ilufanele uhambo.
Ukubhaliswa ku-inthanethi nokungaxhunyiwe ku-inthanethi okungu-2400 okuvela emazweni ayi-114 kuze kube manje kusinika isibindi nokuqiniseka ukuthi okungenani siseduze nemigomo yethu.
Yonke imininingwane yohlelo, ukuhlukahluka nobuningi balo, ukuba khona kwamazwe ngamazwe kanye nekhono lalo ingatholakala kusizindalwazi. Lapho uyophinde uthole izincazelo ezinemininingwane yezinkundla zokucobelelana ngolwazi ezicishe zibe ngu-50, imicimbi eseceleni, imicimbi yamasiko kanye nesimemo soMkhosi Womklomelo weMacBride ngoMgqibelo kusihlwa. Kuyafaneleka ngempela ukubheka konke lokhu, futhi ngingacabanga ukuthi abanye benu bazothi: Ngingathanda ukuba lapho nami. Ingxubevange ingenzeka kuze kube umzuzu wokugcina. I-Barcelona ihlale ilufanele uhambo futhi ukusijoyina ku-inthanethi kuzoletha imininingwane emisha futhi mhlawumbe namandla amasha okuthula.
Ngaphandle kokunqoba ubunxiwankulu, ngeke sizuze ukuthula noma ubulungiswa bomhlaba kanye nesimo sezulu
Uma iminyaka embalwa edlule isifundise noma yini, ukuthi izinkinga ezinkulu, izinsongo ezinkulu esintwini, ziyinkimbinkimbi kakhulu, zixhumene futhi amazwe ngamanye noma izifunda azinamandla ngokumelene nazo. Lokhu kusho ukuthi sidinga izindlela ezihambisanayo zezixazululo nokubambisana kwamazwe ngamazwe. Esibhekana nakho kuwubuwula obuphambene.
Ngeshwa, ukucabanga ngobunkimbinkimbi, ekuxhumaneni futhi, ngingangeza, ku-dialectics kaningi kuye kwalahleka kuvumela ukwenziwa lula okumnyama nokumhlophe kanye nokwenza lula ukumelana neqiniso. Ngokombusazwe, le ndlela isetshenziswa futhi ngamabomu ukuphikisa ubukhulu bezinselele kanye nokufuna ukuthi kuqhutshekwe nalokho okubizwa ngokuthi yizinguquko. Esikudingayo ngempela - ngiyazi ukuthi akusemfashinini ukusebenzisa leli gama - kuwuguquko: uguquko oluyisisekelo futhi, ngingangeza, uguquko olubambe iqhaza ngentando yeningi kubo bonke ubudlelwano bokubusa, amandla kanye nempahla, kubandakanya nobudlelwano obusha ngokuphelele imvelo. Kuzwakala njengesiqubulo manje, kodwa zinjalo izingxoxo: ngaphandle kokunqoba ubunxiwankulu, ngeke sizuze ukuthula noma ubulungisa bomhlaba kanye nesimo sezulu. UJean Jaures usevele wakuklama lokhu okukhethekile ukuze kube nokuthula ngo-1914, lapho egcizelela ukuthi ubunxiwankulu buphethe impi ngaphakathi kubo, njengefu elithwala imvula. Ngeke siyixazulule inselelo yesimo sezulu ngaphandle kokucabanga kabusha ngemibono yokukhula futhi lokhu kushayisana nezidingo zokuqoqwa konxiwankulu kanye nezinzuzo zenzuzo futhi akekho okufanele akholelwe ukuthi singaba nomhlaba wonke! ubulungisa ngaphandle kokuya ezisekelweni zamandla enkampani nokuxhashazwa.
"Nginesiqiniseko sokuthi izinguquko kumele futhi zizojula kakhulu, zibe yisisekelo, zibe yisisekelo."
Ngakho-ke esikudingayo manje futhi ngokushesha ukubambisana, inqubomgomo yokuphepha okufanayo - lesi isimemezelo sempi ku-Biden ne-NATO - ngoba kungaleso sikhathi kuphela, lapho singavula izindlela zokwakha ikusasa elinokuthula, lemvelo.
Nokho, ngokwami, ngiqiniseka ngokujulile ukuthi izinguquko kufanele futhi zizojula kakhulu, zibe yisisekelo, zibe yisisekelo. Ingxoxo emayelana nalokhu iyadingeka ngempela, kodwa akumele isivimbele ekuthatheni izinyathelo zokuqala ezidingeka ngokuphuthumayo, izinyathelo kanye nezenzo ndawonye, ikakhulukazi nabaningi abangahlanganyeli ngesikhundla sami. Ingxoxo ngaphandle kokukhishwa inyumbazane kanye nama-taboos, kodwa ngokuqonda okuningi komunye kuyadingeka uma sifuna ukufeza uguquko oluyisisekelo ngendlela yokuhlanganyela futhi ngaleyo ndlela senze ukuthula kuvikeleke kakhulu.
"Kumele sinqobe ngokushesha ukuhlukaniswa kwabantu okuvele ngenxa yenhlekelele yeCorona sivuna isenzo esisekelwe ebunyeni."
E-Europe, sibhekene nokuphela kwalolu bhubhane, kanti ezinye izingxenye zomhlaba zisaphakathi kwalo. Ingabe lesi yisikhathi esifanele sengqungquthela yamazwe ngamazwe yokuthula?
Sazi kahle kamhlophe ukuthi bezinkulu kangakanani izinselelo zale Khongolose ngaphansi kwezimo zeCorona ngesikhathi sonke samalungiselelo. Ake ngicacise: asikho isikhathi esingcono, hhayi nje ngoba ingqungquthela yomhlaba enjalo iyadingeka ngokwepolitiki ngokuphelele. Isizathu esibaluleke kakhulu ukuthi sidinga ngokuphuthumayo ukunqoba, ngokushesha okukhulu nangobumbano, ukuhlukaniswa kwabantu okuye kwavela ngenxa yenhlekelele yeCorona ngenxa yezenzo zobumbano. Kufanele sibuyele emigwaqweni nasezikweleni. Ngokwedijithali, sithuthele ndawonye, manje nalokhu kumele kubonakale kakhulu ngokwepolitiki. Ngemuva kwezinyanga eziyi-18 zokunqanda ubhubhane, kunentshisekelo enkulu ngempela yokuhlangana nokubonisana ngemibono, ngisho nokugona nokubingelelana futhi. Siyaludinga lolu zwelo. Ngethemba ukuthi izosabalala kancane kubo bonke abazobe bebambe iqhaza ku-inthanethi. Sidinga umoya wesiqalo esisha futhi ngiyethemba ukuthi ukhongolose uzofaka isandla kulokhu.
ULula, uVandana Shiva, uJeremy Corbyn, uBeatrice Finn nabanye abaningi….
IKhongolose iwukulinga ngezindlela zayo eziningi eziyingxubevange, kodwa inenjongo futhi inethemba. Nginesiqiniseko sokuthi amafomethi ayingxube azoba umqondo wekusasa. Bavumela ukuxhumana kwamazwe ngamazwe okuphelele.
Abanye abantu abakhulu sebemenyezelwe ohlelweni. Ulindele bani mathupha noma ngesixhumanisi sevidiyo?
Bonke “osaziwayo” abamenyezelwe ohlelweni bazobe bekhona, kungaba yingxubevange njengoMongameli wangaphambili uLula noma uVandana Shiva, abanye abafana noJeremy Corbyn noma uBeatrice Finn sizokwazi ukubamukela esizeni. Izikhulumi ezimaphakathi zamaphepha omhlangano ngoMgqibelo nangeSonto zizobe zikhona. Ezingqungqutheleni, kuzohlukaniswa. Ezithakazelisa kakhulu njengale eku-AUKUS zizoba ku-inthanethi, izinkundla zokucobelelana ngolwazi ngezikhali zenuzi noma ukuphepha okujwayelekile lapho kukhona/okuxubile.
Ngokuqinisekile kuzoba namathuba anele okushintshana nokuxoxisana. Singakhohlwa umhlangano womphakathi nabo bonke ababambiqhaza bomcimbi wokuvula, lapho sizokwakha uphawu lokuthula ngomakhalekhukhwini bethu.
Ukuze kube nezinguquko eziyisisekelo, akudingekile nje kuphela ubuntu abavelele, kodwa sonke sinenselele. Kungani kumele isishoshovu esingagxili ekuthuleni noma umuntu ongahlangene nepolitiki abambe iqhaza engqungqutheleni?
Kakade ngesikhathi sibhalisela ukhongolose, sabona ukuhlukahluka kwababambe iqhaza. Zihlukahlukene ngoba zivela ezingxenyeni ezihlukene zomhlaba, kodwa futhi zihlukene ngokuzinikela kwazo. Bonke babelana ngemibono eyisisekelo yoguquko olukhulu lokuthula kwezenhlalo nemvelo. Ukuthula akunakucatshangwa ngaphandle kobulungisa bomhlaba wonke kanye nobulungiswa besimo sezulu, futhi ngeke kube nobulungiswa besimo sezulu ngaphandle kokuphela kwezimpi nezingxabano. Lezi yizinhlangothi ezi-2 zohlamvu lwemali olufanayo. Sifuna ukujulisa le micabango futhi siyenze isebenze kakhudlwana. Sifuna ukukucacisa ukuthi ubudlelwano bemvelo buphinde buhlale buwubudlelwano bokubusa namandla, okumele kunqotshwe noma kubunjwe ngentando yeningi futhi kubunjwe ngendlela yokuhlanganyela ukuze kube nokuthula.
Yimaphi amathuba okubamba iqhaza (esayithini naku-inthanethi), yiziphi izilimi ezisekelwayo? Futhi ngaphezu kwakho konke, yimaphi amathuba akhona okubamba iqhaza elibonakalayo?
Idizayini ezimele iyinselelo yokwakhiwa kwe-inthanethi. Sithole uhlelo lobuchwepheshe lwalokhu oluvumela ukuxoxisana komuntu ngamunye, ukuthuthukiswa kwamaqembu amancane, ukwethulwa kwamaphosta namadokhumenti, kanye nokushintshana komuntu ngamunye. Lokhu ngokuqinisekile akukhona lokho abahlanganyeli abazobhekana nakho esizeni - ngisho futhi ikakhulukazi ngaphandle kohlelo olusemthethweni, kodwa kudala isikhala esiningi sokuxhumana. Izilimi eziyinhloko kuzoba isiNgisi, isiCatalan neSpanishi. Kodwa uma kwenzeka ukungabaza, abesifazane nabesilisa bangakwazi futhi ukuxhumana ngezandla nezinyawo.
Ingqungquthela ngokwayo ingumhlangano wenethiwekhi yokuxhumana futhi wonke umuntu uzogoduka nezinto eziningi ezintsha azibonayo kanye nolwazi olusha - ngiqinisekile ngalokho.
“Angilona “iwundlu lomhlatshelo” labanye”
Isithombe sengobo yomlando sika-Reiner Braun ngu-C. Stiller
Manje, ekugcineni, umbuzo womuntu siqu kuwe. Ukwazi kanjani ukugcina ukuzibophezela kwakho nokuzethemba kulezi zikhathi? Yini ekunika ithemba?
Ukuzethemba nethemba kuvela ekukholelweni kwami okujulile kokuthi abantu babhala umlando nokuthi umlando ungathonywa futhi unqunywe ngisho nayizenzo zabantu. Ngifuna ukubamba iqhaza kulokhu futhi ngingabi “iwundlu lomhlatshelo elingenzi lutho” labanye. Ngizizwa ngiyingxenye yomphakathi womhlaba wonke wobumbano - nawo ovunyelwe ukuphikisa - ofuna ukuzuza umhlaba ongcono, onokuthula, kanye nobulungisa. Empilweni yami, ngiye ngabhekana nobumbano nobunye ezenzweni ezihlukahlukene, ngahlangana nabantu abaningi abaye bahamba beqotho ngaphansi kwezimo ezinzima kakhulu - lokhu kunomthelela futhi kwangilolonga.
Lo muzwa wobumbano, lokhu kuqonda komphakathi wabantu abacabanga futhi benze ngendlela efanayo akukwenzi ukuhlehla noma ukunqotshwa okubuhlungu kwezombusazwe kube lula kodwa kubekezeleleke kakhudlwana, kunikeza ithemba nekhampasi ngekusasa ngisho nangezimpawu zobunzima obukhulu nokungaqiniseki. .
Nami angikwazi ukukuyeka, ukuyeka akuyona inketho, ngoba angikwazi futhi ngeke ngizilahle mina. Isithunzi - ikakhulukazi ebunzimeni, ezingxabanweni nasekunqotshweni bengilokhu ngincoma futhi ngenza impumelelo ibe yigugu kakhulu.
I-Capitalism ayikona ukuphela kwendaba kimi. Uma kuqhathaniswa nezigidigidi zabanye abantu kule planethi, ngisesimeni esihle futhi ngingathanda ukunikela kancane kulokho futhi ngiqinisekise ukuthi nabanye baphila kangcono nokuthi imvelo iyalondolozwa. Ukuthula nemvelo nakho kuyinselele yomuntu siqu.
Iyiphi into engcono engingayenza kunokusebenzelana nabaningi ukuze sibe nempilo engcono, kube nobulungiswa nokuthula. Lokho kuyangijabulisa nami.
Chofoza lapha ukuze ubhalise: https://www.ipb2021.barcelona/register/
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