IVIDIYO: UYurii Sheliazhenko kwiDemokhrasi ngoku uCebisa ngeSisombululo esingesosemkhosini soMlo eUkraine

NgeDemokhrasi Ngoku, ngomhla woku-22 kuMatshi, ngo-2022

U-Yurii Sheliazhenko lilungu leBhodi ye World BEYOND War.

Amakhulu-khulu abaqhanqalazi abachasene nemfazwe bahlanganisene kwisixeko saseUkraine eKherson ngoMvulo ukuchasa ukuhlala kweRussia esixekweni kunye nokuchasa ukuya emkhosini ngokuzithandela. Imikhosi yaseRussia yasebenzisa iziqhushumbisi ezothusayo kunye nokudubula koomatshini ukuchithachitha isihlwele. Ngeli xesha, uMongameli uBiden kulindeleke ukuba ahambe aye kwi- NATO ingqungquthela kule veki eBrussels, apho amaqabane aseNtshona alungiselela ukuxoxa ngempendulo ukuba iRashiya iphendukela ekusebenziseni izixhobo zenyukliya kunye nezinye izixhobo zokutshabalalisa. Omabini amacala emfazwe kufuneka adibane kwaye ehle, utshilo umlweli woxolo wase-Ukraine osekwe e-Kyiv uYurii Sheliazhenko. "Into esiyidingayo ayikokwanda kwengxabano ngezixhobo ezininzi, izohlwayo ezingakumbi, intiyo engakumbi eRussia nase China, kodwa ewe, endaweni yoko, sifuna iingxoxo zoxolo ezibanzi."

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NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: Yi le Intando yeninzi Ngoku! Ndingu-Amy Goodman, kunye noJuan González.

Sigqiba umboniso wanamhlanje eKyiv, eUkraine, apho sidityaniswe nguYurii Sheliazhenko. Ungunobhala olawulayo we-Ukraine Pacifist Movement kunye nelungu lebhodi ye-European Bureau for Conscientious Objection. U-Yurii ukwalilungu lebhodi yabalawuli kwiHlabathi NGAPHAMBILI Imfazwe kunye neqabane lophando kwi KROK KwiYunivesithi yaseKyiv, eUkraine. Ulandele ngokusondeleyo iingxelo ezivela kwisixeko esisemazantsi e-Ukraine e-Kherson, apho imikhosi yaseRussia yasebenzisa iziqhushumbisi kunye nompu wokudubula ukusasaza isihlwele samakhulu abantu ababehlanganisene ngoMvulo beqhankqalaza ngokubanjwa kweRussia.

Yurii, wamkelekile kwakhona Intando yeninzi Ngoku! UseseKyiv. Ngaba ungathetha ngento eyenzekayo ngoku kunye nento oyibizela yona? Kwaye ndinomdla kakhulu, umzekelo, kwinto ebonakala ngathi ingumnxeba ophantse wafana wendawo ekungabhabhiyo ukuze iRussia ingakwazi ukuzibetha ezixekweni, kodwa iNtshona ixhalabile kakhulu kukunyanzeliswa kwendawo ekungabhabhiyo, okuthetha ukudubula. phantsi iinqwelomoya zaseRashiya, ziya kukhokelela kwimfazwe yenyukliya, kwaye sithini isikhundla sakho kule nto.

I-YURII SHELIAZHENKO: Enkosi, Amy, kwaye imibuliso kubo bonke abantu abathanda uxolo kwihlabathi liphela.

Ewe, indawo ekungabhabhayo yimpendulo yomkhosi kwingxaki ekhoyo ngoku. Kwaye into esiyidingayo ayikokukhula kwengxabano ngezixhobo ezininzi, izohlwayo ezingakumbi, intiyo engakumbi eRashiya naseTshayina, kodwa, ewe, endaweni yoko, sifuna iingxoxo zoxolo ezibanzi. Kwaye, uyazi, iUnited States ayiloqela lingabandakanyekanga kolu ngquzulwano. Ngokuchasene noko, olu ngquzulwano lungaphaya kweUkraine. Ineendlela ezimbini: ungquzulwano phakathi kweNtshona kunye neMpuma kunye nengxabano phakathi kweRashiya ne-Ukraine. Ukwandiswa kwe NATO yayingaphambili ukubamba amandla obundlobongela e-Kyiv ngo-- ixhaswe yi-West, i-Ukrainian nationalists ngo-2014 kunye nokuhlutha amandla obundlobongela eCrimea kunye ne-Donbas ngabamazwe baseRashiya kunye nemikhosi yasemkhosini yaseRashiya ngaloo nyaka. Ngoko ke, i-2014, ngokuqinisekileyo, yayingunyaka wokuqala lo ngquzulwano olunobundlobongela phakathi - ukususela ekuqaleni, phakathi kukarhulumente naphakathi kwabahlukanisi. Kwaye ke, emva kwedabi elikhulu, emva kokugqitywa kwesivumelwano soxolo, izivumelwano zeMinsk, apho omabini amacala angathotyelwanga, kwaye sibona iingxelo ezijoliswe kuyo. OSCE malunga nokwaphulwa kokupheliswa komlilo kumacala omabini. Kwaye oku kunyhashwa kokupheliswa kwemfazwe kwanda ngaphambi kohlaselo lwaseRashiya, olu hlaselo lungekho mthethweni lwaseRashiya eUkraine. Ibe yonke ingxaki yeyokuba isicombululo soxolo ngelo xesha, esavunywa ngamazwe ngamazwe liBhunga loKhuseleko leZizwe Ezimanyeneyo, asizange sithotyelwe. Kwaye ngoku siyabona ukuba endaweni yeBiden, uZelensky, uPutin, uXi Jinping bahlala kwitafile enye yothethathethwano, baxoxe ngendlela yokuguqula eli hlabathi libe ngcono, ukususa nayiphi na i-hegemony kunye nokuseka imvisiswano - endaweni yoko, sinale politiki yezoyikiso EUnited States ukuya eRussia, ukusuka eUnited States ukuya eTshayina, ezi mfuno zokufudumala kuluntu lwaseUkraine ukuseka le ndawo yokungabhabha.

Kwaye ngendlela, yintiyo engakholelekiyo ngakuRussia eUkraine, kwaye le ntiyo isasazeka kwihlabathi liphela, kungekuphela nje kulawulo olushushu, kodwa nakubantu baseRussia. Kodwa siyabona ukuba abantu baseRashiya, abaninzi babo, bachasene nale mfazwe. Kwaye, uyazi, ndiza kunikela irhafu-ndiyabulela kubo bonke abantu abanesibindi abachasayo ngokungekho mthethweni kwimfazwe kunye nokufudumala, abo bantu baqhankqalaza ngokuchasene nokuhlala kweRussia kwisixeko saseUkraine saseKherson. Yaye umkhosi, umkhosi ohlaselayo, wabadubula. Lihlazo.

Uyazi, baninzi abantu abalandela indlela yokuphila engenabundlobongela eUkraine. Inani labantu abangavumiyo ukuya emkhosini kwilizwe lethu ababesenza eminye imisebenzi engenanto yakwenza nomkhosi ngaphambi kohlaselo lwaseRashiya babeyi-1,659 XNUMX. Eli nani lisuka Ingxelo yonyaka 2021 ngokungavumi ukuya emkhosini ngenxa yesazela, epapashwe yiEuropean Bureau for Conscientious Objection. Le ngxelo iqukumbela ngelithi iYurophu yayingeyondawo ikhuselekileyo ngo-2021 kubantu abaninzi ababengafuni ukuya emkhosini ngenxa yezazela zabo kumazwe aliqela, eUkraine, eRashiya, naseCrimea naseDonbas eziphantsi kweRashiya; eTurkey, indawo esemantla yeCyprus ehlala iTurkey; eAzerbaijan; Armeniya; Bhelarusi; kunye namanye amazwe. Abo bangafuniyo ukuya emkhosini ngenxa yezazela zabo babetshutshiswa, babanjwe, bagwetywe ziinkundla zomkhosi, bavalelwa entolongweni, bahlawuliswe imali, besoyikiswa, bahlaselwe, bagrogriswe ngokubulawa, becalulwa. EUkraine, ukugxekwa komkhosi kunye nokukhuthaza ukwala ngenxa yesazela kujongwa njengokungcatsha abantu kwaye kohlwaywa. Amawaka abantu abanjwa aza ahlawuliswa kwiindibano zokulwa imfazwe eRashiya.

Ndingathanda ukucaphula ingxelo yeNtshukumo yabaNxamnye nezazela ukuya kwiNkonzo yaseMkhosini eRashiya kule nto. EBCO ingxelo yonyaka: quote, “Into eyenzekayo eUkraine yimfazwe evezwe yiRashiya. I-Conscientious Objectors Movement iyayigxeka imikhosi yaseRashiya. Kwaye icela iRussia ukuba iyeke imfazwe. I-Conscientious Objectors Movement icela amajoni aseRashiya ukuba angathathi nxaxheba kwimfazwe. Musani ukuba zizikrelemnqa. I-Conscientious Objectors Movement ihlaba ikhwelo kubo bonke abantu abagaywayo ukuba bangayi emkhosini: bafake izicelo zokwenza eminye imisebenzi engenanto yakwenza nomkhosi, okanye bazame ukukhululwa ngenxa yezizathu zonyango,” ekupheleni kwesicatshulwa. Kwaye, ewe, i-Ukrainian Pacifist Movement ikwagxeka impendulo yomkhosi yase-Ukraine kunye nokudodobala kothethathethwano, esikubonayo ngoku sisiphumo sokulandela isisombululo somkhosi.

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Yurii, bendifuna ukukubuza, kuba sinemizuzu embalwa eseleyo-uthetha ngokubandakanyeka ngokuthe ngqo kwe-US kunye NATO sele. Kubekho ingxelo encinci kakhulu, kungekuphela nje kumba wezixhobo ezibonelelwa ngaseNtshona ukuya eUkraine, kodwa kwakhona, ngokucacileyo, ngedatha yokwenyani yesathelayithi efunyanwa ngumkhosi wase-Ukraine usuka eNtshona. Kwaye uqikelelo lwam kukuba, kwiminyaka ukusuka ngoku, siya kufunda ukuba uhlaselo lwe-drone kumkhosi waseRussia lwalubhekiswa kude ukusuka kwiziseko zaseMelika kwiindawo ezinjengeNevada, okanye nokuba sele kukho inani elibalulekileyo le CIA kunye nemikhosi yokusebenza ekhethekileyo ngaphakathi kweUkraine. Njengoko usitsho, kukho abantu belizwe macala onke, eRashiya, e-US nase-Ukraine, abaye babangela le ngxaki ngoku. Ndiyazibuza ukuba yintoni inkcaso phakathi kwabantu baseUkraine kule mfazwe. Iye yanda kangakanani?

I-YURII SHELIAZHENKO: Uyazi, oku kunyuka kusisiphumo sokutyhala kwezi kontraka zomkhosi. Siyazi ukuba unobhala wezoKhuselo waseMelika uLloyd Austin uqhagamshelwe kuRaytheon. Wayekwibhodi yabalawuli. Kwaye siyazi ukuba i-Raytheon stocks ine-6% yokukhula kwi-New York Stock Exchange. Kwaye babonelela ngemijukujelwa ye-Stinger e-Ukraine, abavelisi bemijukujelwa yeJavelin, [engavakaliyo], inokukhula ngama-38%. Kwaye, kunjalo, sinalo Lockheed Martin. Babonelela ngeejethi zokulwa ze-F-35. Banokukhula nge-14%. Kwaye benza inzuzo ngemfazwe, kwaye batyhala ngemfazwe, kwaye banethemba lokuzuza inzuzo engakumbi ngokuphalaza igazi, kwintshabalalo, kwaye ngandlel’ ithile abayi kunyukela kumlinganiselo wemfazwe yenyukliya.

Kwaye abantu kufuneka batyhale kurhulumente ukuba bathethathethane endaweni yokulwa. Zininzi izenzo ezichasene nokufudumala okuqhubekayo eUnited States naseYurophu. Ungasifumana isibhengezo kwi WorldBeyondWar.org iwebhusayithi phantsi kwebhena, “IRashiya Iphuma eUkraine. NATO Ngaphandle koBukho.” I-CodePink iyaqhubeka nokucela uMongameli u-Biden kunye ne-United States Congress ukuba baxoxisane endaweni yokunyuka. Kwakhona, iya kuba yintlangano yehlabathi jikelele, "Yeka i-Lockheed Martin," ngo-Aprili 28. I-Coalition No to NATO babhengeze ukuba bamatsha ngoJuni ka-2022 ngale nto kwaye ngokuchasene ne NATO kwingqungquthela yaseMadrid. E-Italiya, uMovimento Nonviolento waqalisa iphulo lokuchasa ukuya emkhosini ngenxa yezazela zabo esebenzisana nabo bangavumiyo ukuya emkhosini ngenxa yezazela zabo, abantu ababaleka ukuya emkhosini, abantu baseRashiya nabaseUkraine. EYurophu, iphulo leYurophu yoXolo lathi iYurophu yaseYurophu i-pacifists ikhupha i-ultimatum kuPutin kunye noZelensky: Yeka imfazwe ngokukhawuleza, okanye abantu baya kuququzelela iikharavani zabantu abangenalo ubundlobongela abavela kulo lonke elaseYurophu, besebenzisa zonke iindlela zokuhamba kwiindawo zongquzulwano bengaxhobanga. njengabagcini boxolo phakathi kwabalwayo. Ngokuphathelele ukuqhankqalaza eUkraine, umzekelo, sinalo elihlazo-

NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: Yurii, sinemizuzwana emihlanu.

I-YURII SHELIAZHENKO: Ewe, ndingathanda ukuthi a isikhalazo enomxholo othi, “Vumela amadoda akwiminyaka eli-18 ukuya kwengama-60 angenawo amava omkhosi ukuba aphume eUkraine,” kwiOpenPetition.eu, baqokelele abantu abangama-59,000 abatyikityayo.

NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: Yurii, kuza kufuneka siyishiye apho, kodwa ndiyabulela kakhulu ngokuba nathi. Yurii Sheliazhenko, unobhala olawulayo we-Ukraine Pacifist Movement.

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