I-TV iqhubekile udliwano-ndlebe kunye noLeah Bolger, iVeterans for Peace, Oregon malunga neenkxalabo zasemkhosini zase-US ngempilo yengqondo yamajoni abuyileyo ekulweni; kunye nokungonelanga kwenkxaso yeziko.
Oku kulandelayo yingxelo eqikelelweyo yodliwano-ndlebe.
Cinezela iTV: Amagqabantshintshi enziwe nguAdmiral Mike Mullen, ngaba abubungqina bokuba i-US ayiboneleli ngononophelo lwezempilo olwaneleyo kunye nezibonelelo zenguqu kumagqala abuya e-Iraq okanye e-Afghanistan?
Bolger: Kulungile, ndicinga ukuba yinyani ndicinga ukuba yingxaki ixesha elide ukuba inkonzo yamadoda nabasetyhini kunye nokungafumani ukhathalelo olufanelekileyo abaludingayo. Ke, u-Admiral Mullen ubiza, ngendlela eqhelekileyo, esithi kufuneka sixhase amadoda kunye nabasetyhini bethu abaya ekulweni kwaye bancede kwimicimbi yabo yempilo yengqondo.
Cinezela iTV: Ucinga ukuba kutheni olu ncedo alubonelelwa ngurhulumente, nto leyo ebangele ukuba aba bantu baye kulwa iimfazwe kumazwe angaphandle?
Bolger: Ndicinga ukuba impilo yengqondo ibe nebala ixesha elide. Amajoni abuyile kwiMfazwe yeHlabathi yokuQala, iMfazwe yesibini yeHlabathi yayineempawu ezifanayo namajoni ahlangabezana nazo ngoku, kodwa asizange siyibize ngokuba yingxaki yoxinzelelo lwasemva koxinzelelo, ibibizwa ngokuba kukudinwa kwedabi okanye ukothuka kweqokobhe – ibinamagama ahlukileyo. .
Akukho nto intsha ukuba amajoni angena kwimimandla yemfazwe abuya abantu abahlukeneyo kwaye baneengxaki zempilo yengqondo ngenxa yokuthatha inxaxheba ekulweni. Kodwa siyaqala ngoku ukuyamkela njengento eqhelekileyo. Ndicinga ngale nto-kwaye ayiyonto ilihlazo, kodwa yinto eqondakalayo xa umntu ekwinto ebuhlungu njengokulwa.
Yintoni endicaphukisayo kwaye indikhathazayo njengomntu kwaye njengomntu waseMelika kwaye njengomntu wehlabathi kukuba ukulwa kuchaphazela amajoni ngolu hlobo ukuze adandatheke kakhulu okanye abulale okanye azibulale, kufuneka njani? ingaba ichaphazela amaxhoba okwenene emfazwe - abantu abamsulwa e-Afghanistan nase-Iraq nasePakistan kunye nawo onke amanye amazwe umkhosi waseMelika uhlasele?
Aba ngokwenene ngamaxhoba emfazwe aphila ngomothuko oqhubekayo kwaye uluntu lwaseMelika lubonakala lungakhathazeki malunga nokwenzakala okanye imiba yempilo yengqondo konke konke.
Cinezela iTV: Ngokwenene lo ngumbuzo onzima kakhulu owubuzayo apho.
Xa sibuyela kumbandela wamagqala kunye nokujonga umfanekiso omkhulu kwakhona, ayiyomiba yempilo yengqondo kuphela ngoku, ikwayinyani yokuba bakufumanisa kunzima ukufumana ukhathalelo lwempilo olwaneleyo; bakufumanisa kunzima ukufumana imisebenzi xa sele bebuyile.
Ke, sisiphako esibanzi senkqubo, awuvumi?
Bolger: Ngokuqinisekileyo. Kwakhona, xa abantu behamba kunye namava okulwa bangabantu abatshintshileyo. Ke bayabuya kwaye abaninzi, abantu abaninzi ababuya edabini banobunzima bokubuyela kubomi bangaphandle.
Bafumanisa ukuba ulwalamano lwabo nentsapho yabo alusaqinanga; kukho iziganeko eziphezulu kakhulu zokusetyenziswa kakubi kotywala neziyobisi; ukungabi namakhaya; intswela-ngqesho - Ezi ntlobo zeengxaki ziye zanda kakhulu emva kokuba abantu besilwa.
Kwaye ke le nto ithethayo kum kukuba ukulwa ayisiyonto yendalo, ayiziseli ngokwemvelo ebantwini kwaye ke xa oko kusenzeka batshintshwa ngendlela engalunganga kwaye bakufumanisa kunzima kakhulu ukuphinda baqhelane.
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