TEHRAN (Umsebenzi) NgoMeyi 5, 2019 - Umbhali odumileyo waseMelika, ophumelele iBhaso loXolo kaNobel izihlandlo ezihlanu, udelele "ulwaphulo-mthetho" lwamva nje oluqhutywa ngurhulumente wase-US ukunyusa izohlwayo zezoqoqosho e-Iran kwaye wathi umhlaba kufuneka uvimbele ukuvalwa kweWashington.
"Ngokucacileyo abantu baseMelika kufuneka bafune ukuba kupheliswe isohlwayo solwaphulo-mthetho kunye nokuziphatha okubi kuluntu luphela - ukuqonda ukuba 'isohlwayo' apha asithethi ukuba netyala," uDavid Swanson, ozinze eVirginia, uthe kudliwanondlebe no. i-Arhente yeNdaba yeTasnim.
Izizwe zehlabathi kufuneka zilugatye olu hlaselo lwase-US, utshilo, esongeza, "iZizwe eziManyeneyo zifuna ukuvala izohlwayo kunye neemfazwe e-Iran, eVenezuela nakwenye indawo."
UDavid Swanson ngumbhali, umlweli, intatheli, kunye nomsasazi werediyo. Ungumlawuli olawulayo weWorldBeyondWar.org kunye nomnxibelelanisi wephulo leRootsAction.org. Iincwadi zikaSwanson zibandakanya iMfazwe ibubuxoki kwaye xa iMfazwe yehlabathi ingekho mthethweni. Ubloga eDavidSwanson.org kunye neWarIsACrime.org. Uququzelela iTalk Nation Radio. Ungowe-2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 Nobel Peace Prize. ISwanson yawongwa ngeBhaso loXolo lowama-2018 yi-US Peace Memorial Foundation.
I-Tasnim: NgoLwesihlanu, ulawulo lukaMongameli wase-US uDonald Trump luye lwahlaziya i-waivers ezintlanu kwezisixhenxe ezivumela iRussia kunye nezizwe zaseYurophu ukuba ziqhube intsebenziswano yoluntu kwinyukliya ne-Iran kodwa zarhoxisa ezinye ezimbini njengenxalenye yephulo loxinzelelo ngokuchasene neTehran, ngokweSebe lezwe laseMelika. IWashington ikwayekile ukukhupha ioyile ekrwada yaseIran ngolwesine. Ngaphambi kokuba i-US ihambe, amagosa ase-Iranian, kuquka uMphathiswa Wezangaphandle u-Mohammad Javad Zarif kunye neNtloko yaBasebenzi boMkhosi we-Iranian u-Major General Mohammad Hossein Baqeri, wayelumkisile ngemiphumo yabo. Luthini uvavanyo lwakho kolu phuhliso kwaye ucinga ukuba i-Iran ingasabela njani kwisigqibo sase-US?
Swanson: Ngokucacileyo abantu baseUnited States kufuneka bafune ukupheliswa kolwaphulo-mthetho kunye nokuziphatha okubi kwesohlwayo sabantu bonke - ukuqonda ukuba "isohlwayo" apha asithethi ukuba netyala.
Ngokucacileyo izizwe zehlabathi zifuna ukukhaba olu hlaselo lwase-US. Kodwa akukhathaliseki nokuba ngubani otshisayo loo oyile okanye ngubani owenza inzuzo kuyo - nangayiphi na imeko iyasibulala sonke ngokutshabalalisa imozulu yomhlaba.
Ke, ihlabathi lifuna ukubonelela i-Iran (nakwenye indawo) ngamandla acocekileyo azinzileyo, kunye nembuyekezo, kunye namalungelo alinganayo.
Tasnim: Njengoko usazi, uZarif ebesandula e-US. Kudliwanondlebe oluninzi kunye nemithombo yeendaba yase-US kunye netafile kunye neentatheli eNew York kwiveki ephelileyo, wenze ityala lokuba iqela elibizwa ngokuba "liQela le-B" lalibhekisa i-US kwingxabano ne-Iran, hayi uTrump. Iqela le-B liqela labacebisi kunye neenkokeli zamazwe angaphandle amagama abo abelana ngeleta efanayo: Umcebisi wezoKhuseleko weSizwe uJohn Bolton, iNkulumbuso yakwaSirayeli uBenjamin “Bibi” Netanyahu, inkokeli yaseSaudi Arabia eyide facto iNkosana uMohammed bin Salman (MBS), kunye INkosana yesithsaba yase-Abu Dhabi uMohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan (MBZ). Uthini umbono wakho kumazwi kaZarif? Uwuvavanya njani umyalezo wohambo lwakhe oluya e-US?
Swanson: Ewe, abantu abashushu abanomdla batyhala uTrump ngemfazwe. Kodwa wonyula iqela lakhe labafuduki base-US - awona mabi kakhulu awawafumanayo. Yaye nguye obekek’ ityala ngoko bakwenzayo nabangakwenziyo. I-United States inesigqeba esisodwa kunye nenkqubo yokubeka loo mntu uxanduva olubizwa ngokuba yi-impeachment. Ikwanayo neNkomfa yobugwala nekhohlakeleyo engayi kusebenzisa loo nkqubo - okanye iya kuyigqwetha ngenjongo yokuqhubela phambili ubuxoki malunga neRussia, eya kubuyisela umva, ngaloo ndlela, ikhusela iTrump kunokuba imbeke uxanduva. IZizwe eziManyeneyo kufuneka zithintele izohlwayo kunye neemfazwe eIran, eVenezuela, nakuyo yonke enye indawo.
Tasnim: UZarif kutshanje uthe uceba ukutyelela iNorth Korea kungekudala. Ucinga ntoni ngeenjongo ezinokubakho emva kohambo lwakhe kwaye ucinga ukuba lunokuba nonxibelelwano nohambo lwakhe lwamva nje oluya e-US?
Swanson: Ndicinga ukuba kufuneka kwenziwe ngocoselelo kwaye kucingwe kakuhle, kuba kuya kufuneka into emangalisayo ukuchasana nepropaganda eqikelelwayo yabantwana e-United States eya kuthi i-Iran kunye neNorth Korea zinetyala lokuhlangana neNorth Korea kunye ne-Iran, ngokulandelanayo.
