by INdemokhrasi ngoku, Agasti 19, 2021
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NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: Yi le Intando yeninzi Ngoku!, democracynow.org, Ingxelo Yemfazwe Nezoxolo. Ndingu-Amy Goodman.
Njengoko siqhubeka sijonga i-Afghanistan, sidityaniswa ngu-Matthew Hoh, owayesakuba ligosa leSebe lezolwandle kunye neLizwe. Ngo-2009, waba ligosa lokuqala lase-US elaziwa ngokurhoxa kuqhanqalazo ngenxa yeMfazwe yase-Afghan. Ngexesha lokurhoxa kwakhe, wayesebenza njengegosa eliphezulu lase-US kwiphondo laseZabul kumda wePakistan. Kwileta yakhe yokurhoxa, uMatthew Hoh wabhala, “Ndiphulukene nokuqonda kunye nokuzithemba kwiinjongo ezicwangcisiweyo zobukho be-United States e-Afghanistan. Ndinamathandabuzo kunye namathandabuzo malunga nesicwangciso sethu sangoku kunye nesicwangciso sexesha elizayo esicwangcisiweyo, kodwa ukurhoxa kwam akusekelwanga kwindlela esiyiqhuba ngayo le mfazwe, kodwa kutheni kwaye sithini na. " UMatthew Hoh ngoku ungumlingane kwiZiko loMgaqo-nkqubo waMazwe ngaMazwe.
Mateyu, wamkelekile kwakhona Intando yeninzi Ngoku! Ngaba unokuphendula kungekuphela nje kwinto eyenzekileyo e-Afghanistan, kodwa iindaba zeendaba zase-US zoku kwaye ngubani owenza ibali?
UMATEWU HOH: Enkosi ngokuphinda ndibekho, Amy.
Ndiyathetha, yiyo-ndicinga ukuba ekuphela kwento ebuhlungu ngaphezu kweyenzeke kubantu base-Afghan kukuba kwiintsuku ezimbalwa iMelika iya kube iyilibale i-Afghanistan kwakhona. Ke, ngoku sibona inani elikhulu lokugubungela. Uninzi lwayo lugubungela kakubi, lulula kakhulu, lunamathela kwiingxelo zemfazwe, kusilela ukujonga ubungqina. Ndiyathetha, ngoku ibali elikhoyo lelokuba iAfghanistan yawa ngenxa yokuba uJoe Biden watsala amajoni angama-2,500 kwilizwe elilingana neTexas. Oko kufana nobunzulu kwaye, uyazi, ucinga ukuba kuya kule ncoko kuninzi lweendaba ezinkulu zaseMelika.
Le mfazwe-okanye, esi siphelo-kwaye andifanelanga ukuthi "iyaphela," kuba iAfghanistan ikwindawo eyingozi kakhulu ngoku. Oku kunokuba sisiqalo, uyazi, kuya kuba yintoni uxolo olukhohlakeleyo, uxolo olungenabulungisa, kodwa mhlawumbi ithuba lokuba ama-Afghan akhe kwakhona kwaye axolelane, ukuba ubundlobongela bugcinwa buncinci. Okanye inokuba sisigaba nje esilandelayo kule mfazwe yamakhaya ebuyela kwiminyaka yoo-1970, kuba into onayo, uneenkosi zemfazwe, uninzi lwabaphathi bemfazwe abathe baxhasa iTaliban kwezi veki okanye kwiinyanga ezimbalwa ezidlulileyo - nangona kunjalo, zininzi. iinkosi zemfazwe ezingazange-kunye namadoda akurhulumente afana no-Amrullah Saleh, owayengumongameli ka-Ashraf Ghani, ngoku ezivakalisa njengomongameli osemthethweni wase-Afghanistan, kunye nabaphathi bemfazwe njengo-Mohammad Atta Noor, u-Abdul Rashid Dostum, ababalekile. ilizwe. La ngamadoda anganikezeli lula. La ngamadoda afuna ukubuyiselwa into akholelwa ukuba yeyawo. Kwaye aba ngamadoda anembali ende kunye neMelika CIA. Kwaye kulapho intembeko yeCIA inokulala khona.
Ke, sisendleleni apha apho kunokuthi kubekho indlela, ngenxa yolu xolo lukhohlakeleyo nolungenabulungisa, olubhekiselele ekwakheni kwakhona uxolelwaniso, okanye oku kunokuba sisigaba sokuqala kwinxalenye entsha yale mfazwe yamakhaya eqhubekayo, kuba amaMelika jonga oku kwaye uthi, “Jonga, yile ndlela kanye i-Afghanistan yayijonge ngayo ngoSeptemba 10, 2001. Kukho iinkosi zemfazwe ezibambeneyo kwamanye amaphondo. AmaTaliban alawula uninzi lwelizwe. ” Kwaye ndiyakuqinisekisa ukuba kukho abantu eWashington, DC, ngoku abathi, “Siyenze ngo-2001. Singayenza kwakhona. Kwaye ngeli xesha siza kuyenza ngcono. ” Kwaye ke, yindawo eyoyikisayo kakhulu ukuba kuyo, ndiyacinga, ngoku kuma-Afghans, ngenxa yezizathu ezininzi.
Nangona kunjalo, ngokubhekiselele kumajelo eendaba, uyabona-uyazi, ukuyibeka ngokulula, ubona abantu abafanayo abaye baphosakele malunga nale mfazwe bahlanjululwa ngokuphindaphindiweyo. Amagqabantshintshi alula. Ixhomekeke kumabali. Unabahlalutyi abathetha izinto malunga nemfazwe, malunga nendlela i-Afghanistan, ngaphambi kokurhoxa kukaJoe Biden, yayikwixesha lozinzo, indlela ebekukho inkqubela phambili ngayo - uyazi, ubuxoki obupheleleyo kunye nezinto ezilula kakhulu ukuzijonga. , kodwa akunjalo.
Kwaye ndicinga ukuba kungenxa yoko le nto uJoe Biden esiya kuthetha noluntu lwaseMelika ngoMvulo malunga nemfazwe etshabalalise izigidi zabantu, ukubandezeleka okungaka, kwaye uJoe Biden unokuvula intetho yakhe ngokuxoka malunga nokuchasa kwakhe utyando ngo-2009, engazange ayiphikise - uyazi, ngokusisiseko, wayefuna nje ukuthumela imikhosi engaphantsi kunoMongameli Obama, i-10,000 ngaphantsi kwe-100,000; yayiyinkcaso kaJoe Biden emfazweni ngo-2009: thumela i-90,000 kune-100,000 - kunye, kwakhona, ubuxoki bakhe malunga nendlela i-United States eyayingenzi ngayo ulwakhiwo lwesizwe. Kukho indawo yeendaba apha apho uJoe Biden nabantu bakhe babesazi ukuba unokuvula nje ezo ntetho ngobo buxoki, kwaye iya kwamkelwa.
NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: Masihambe-masibuyele kwidilesi kaMongameli uBiden ngoMvulo, xa wayengena evela eCamp David njengoko wayegxekwa kabukhali ngenxa yesiphithiphithi saseKabul kunye nento eyenzekayo e-Afghanistan. Le yidilesi yakhe malunga nomsebenzi wase-US e-Afghanistan.
PRESIDENT JOE kwezinye iilwimi IBIDIDI: Ndiye ndaxoxa iminyaka emininzi ukuba i-mission yethu kufuneka igxile ekulweni nobunqolobi, hayi ukulwa nokuvukela okanye ukwakha isizwe. Yiyo loo nto ndawuchasayo lo mkhwa xa wawucetywa ngo-2009, xa ndandingusekela mongameli.
NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: UMateyu Hoh?
UMATEWU HOH: Kulungile, ndicinga ukuba zininzi izinto zokukhupha apha. Ukubuyela kumajelo eendaba, kukho ingxelo yokuba i-US ayizange izame ngokwaneleyo. Isiphumo - ke, xa uBarack Obama engena esikhundleni ngo-2009, kukho i-30,000 yemikhosi yase-US e-Afghanistan kunye nenani elilinganayo NATO amajoni kunye neekontraka. Kwisithuba esingangonyaka onesiqingatha, kukho i-100,000 40,000 lamajoni aseMerika, angama-XNUMX XNUMX. NATO amajoni kunye neekontraka ezingaphezu kwe-100,000. Kwaye ke iUnited States yayinomkhosi wekota-yesigidi e-Afghanistan. Kwaye kwakhona, inkcaso kaJoe Biden kuloo nto yayikukuthumela i-10,000 yamajoni angaphantsi. Ke, inkcaso kaJoe Biden yayiza kujongeka njengamajoni angama-240,000 kunye neekontraka e-Afghanistan ngokuchasene ne-250,000.
Iingxelo malunga nokungabi ngumzamo wokwakha isizwe — bendikwiyunithi eyayibizwa ngokuba liqela lokwakha ngokutsha lephondo. Ndiyathetha, ubuxoki bokuba-ndisithi kwizigidi zamadoda nabasetyhini ababesebenza e-Afghanistan, abadlula apho, bathatha inxaxheba kulo mzamo wokwakha isizwe- kwaye bayazi ukuba bathathe inxaxheba kumzamo wokwakha isizwe-kwaye ke Umongameli wase-United States ukuba axoke ngokulula malunga nendlela ekungekho ngayo malunga nokwakhiwa kwesizwe, ndicinga ukuba yenye yezona nkcazo zibalaseleyo zale mfazwe, kuzo zonke ezi mfazwe kwilizwe lamaSilamsi, yile, kukulula nje ukuxoka okwenzekayo.
Kwaye iUnited States-inqaku lesithathu malunga noku, iUnited States yazama ukulwa nobunqolobi. Iqhinga lokulwa nobunqolobi athetha ngalo uJoe Biden sisicwangciso esasetyenziswa nguNjengele Petraeus emva kokuba uGeneral McChrystal emkile naxa iUnited States yasuka kwi-counterinsurgency yaya kwi-counterterrorism. Yayithetha ukuthini loo nto? Oko kwakuthetha ukuqhushumbisa iilali kunye nokwenza ugqogqo ebusuku, ukuthumela i-commandos amaxesha angama-20 ngobusuku kwiilali zase-Afghan ukuya kukhaba iingcango kwaye babulale abantu. Kwaye ubone iziphumo zaloo nto. Iziphumo zaloo nto yaba, minyaka le, iiTaliban zomelela. Rhoqo ngonyaka, amaTaliban afumana inkxaso engakumbi.
Kwaye oku kuza kubo bonke ubudenge bento eyenziwa yi-United States apho. Kangangamashumi eminyaka, iUnited States yanika abantu base-Afghan iindlela ezimbini zokukhetha: Ungaxhasa iTaliban okanye ungaxhasa lo rhulumente owenziwe ngabaphathi bemfazwe kunye nabaphathi beziyobisi, oko kukhohlakele, akukho demokrasi - kuba lonke unyulo belungekho mthethweni kwaye lunobuqhophololo - kwaye utshaba. Kwaye iUnited States yasebenzisa iqhinga lokwahlula kunye-loyisa ukuzama ukufezekisa iinjongo zayo e-Afghanistan, kanye njengoko yenzayo e-Iraq ngokubeka amaShia ngokuchasene namaSunni. Kwaye ke, into onayo kukuba ubunayo - uyazi, into onayo, kwakhona, olu khetho: khetha iTaliban okanye lo rhulumente. Kwaye into eyenzekileyo kulo nyaka uphelileyo kukuba ama-Afghan, kubandakanywa nabangengawo amaPashtuns - amaPashtuns, ukuba uninzi lwelizwe lase-Afghanistan, ngawona abumba iTaliban, eyakha ubunkokeli beTaliban, njl. ibe kwicala elingalunganga leqhinga laseMelika lokwahlula kunye nokoyisa. Kodwa ayisiyiyo kuphela iTaliban exhasayo - ndiyaxolisa, ingengabo kuphela amaPashtuns axhasa iTaliban, kodwa ama-Afghan avela kuzo zonke iindawo zelizwe, zonke izizwe ziye zaxhasa iTaliban, kuba yile ndlela imbi ngayo inketho urhulumente wase-Afghan e-Afghan. abantu kule minyaka mibini idlulileyo.
Ke, enye inkalo yosasazo lweendaba kukungakwazi okanye ukungafuni kweendaba zaseMelika ukuthetha malunga nokuba urhulumente wase-Afghan wayenjani ngokwenene. Siva kakhulu malunga namalungelo abasetyhini ngoku - kwaye kufanele. Ibaluleke kakhulu. Ibaluleke kakhulu. Kodwa bangaphi abantu baseMelika abaziyo ukuba, phantsi korhulumente wase-Afghan, abane kwabahlanu - kangangokuba abane kwabahlanu kwabasetyhini base-Afghan babetshate ngenkani, uninzi lwabo bengabantwana? Bangaphi abantu baseMelika abaziyo ukuba e-Afghanistan, phantsi komthetho wase-Afghan, kusemthethweni ukuba indoda idlwengule umfazi wayo, okanye kwiintolongo zikarhulumente wase-Afghan, uninzi lwabasetyhini abakwiintolongo zase-Afghan abekho kuba babexhasa iTaliban, kodwa ngenxa yokuba. ngolwaphulo-mthetho olungokokuziphatha? Ke, ewe, mhlawumbi lo rhulumente wase-Afghan, lo rhulumente wemfazwe, wayengekho njengendawo yemidlalo yeqonga ekungcoleni kwayo njengoko iTaliban yayinjalo, malunga nokubulawa nokuxulutywa ngamatye abafazi kumabala emidlalo. Kwaye, ewe, kwabaninzi - kukho abafazi abaxhamlayo kwiminyaka engama-20 edlulileyo. Kodwa kuninzi lwabasetyhini e-Afghanistan, ubomi abuzange bube ngcono, ngakumbi ukusukela oko baxhalabileyo, kumashumi amabini eminyaka ngoku, bebulewe yibhombu yeTaliban endleleni okanye ibhombu yaseMelika iwiswe esibhakabhakeni. Kwaye kufuneka ndithi, kungekhona bona, kodwa usapho lwabo, abantwana babo, abamelwane babo, njl.
NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: UMateyu Hoh, ethetha ngento esingayaziyo - kwaye sinomzuzu nje - i-Arhente yezobuNhloli ephakathi, CIA imikhosi e-Afghanistan. Yintoni esifanele siyiqonde? Kwaye yintoni i-spyware yePegasus etyhile ngayo?
UMATEWU HOH: Ewe, kukuqonda kwam ukuba-kwaye kubantu abangaqhelananga ne-spyware ye-Pegasus, esi sispyware esiveliswe yi-Israel esiqhekeza iifowuni, unxibelelwano. Ukuba ujonga okwenzeka eMexico, uninzi lwezopolitiko zabulawa eMexico kulo nyaka uphelileyo babe nale spyware yePegasus kwifowuni yabo. Kwaye ukuqonda kwam kukuba kukho imibhalo yespyware yePegasus ekhoyo ebonisa intsebenziswano kulo nyaka uphelileyo phakathi CIA, phakathi kukarhulumente wase-Afghan naphakathi kweTaliban.
Jonga, okwenzekileyo eAfghanistan akuzange kwenzeke nje kwisithuba seeveki. Le yayiyinkqubo ekhubekisayo ecetywe yiTaliban isithuba esingaphezulu konyaka. Kwaye iziphumo zaloo nto zibe yimpumelelo emangalisayo kunye neTaliban. Ke, umbuzo ekufuneka ubuzwa, ngulo: Kutheni uluntu lwaseMelika lungazi ukuba kwenzeka ntoni eAfghanistan? Ukubuyisela inqaku lakho malunga neendaba.
Kwaye njengoko sisiya phambili, ndicinga ukuba into ebalulekileyo kukuba abantu baseMelika bakhethe indlela yokuxhasa ama-Afghans ngokubanceda ukuba bakhe kwakhona kwaye baxolelane. Ukwenza oko, i-Ambassy yaseMelika kufuneka ihlale ivulekile. Ukuba abantu bafuna ukuba iimbacu zihambe, i-Ambassy yaseMelika kufuneka ihlale ivulekile. Inkxaso-mali kufuneka iqhubeke, ukuba ufuna imibutho efana ne-TOLOnews ihlale emoyeni. I-TOLOnews yayixhaswa ngemali ngabantu baseMelika. Abantu baseMelika bebeyixhasa ngemali amashumi eminyaka ngoku. Ukuze amajelo eendaba ahlale ephila e-Afghanistan, urhulumente wase-US kufuneka aqhubeke eyixhasa. Ke, ngeli xesha, urhulumente waseMelika kufuneka aqhubeke esebenza e-Afghanistan ngenxa yabantu base-Afghan. Kwaye ukuba abantu -
NGABA INDAODA ELUNGILE: UMateyu Hoh, siya kuyishiya apho, kuba kwicandelo lethu elilandelayo, siza kuthetha malunga neembacu zase-Afghan, umntu ochaphazelekayo ekuhlaziyweni kwakhona kwababaleki base-Afghan e-United States. Kodwa siza kubuyela kuwe kwiintsuku ezizayo. Konke oku kululwazi olubaluleke kakhulu esingalufumaniyo kumajelo eendaba. UMatthew Hoh, igosa eliphezulu leZiko loMgaqo-nkqubo waMazwe ngaMazwe, owayesakuba ngumkhosi waselwandle [e-Iraq] kunye negosa leSebe leSizwe e-Afghanistan, nowarhoxayo ngo-2009, igosa lokuqala lase-US ukurhoxa esidlangalaleni ngenxa yoqhankqalazo lweMfazwe yase-Afghan.
Ukuza, sithetha neqela lamalungelo abafuduki baseTexas, IIRAISI, malunga nokuhlalisa kwakhona ababaleki base-Afghan kunye nokuphendula kwiRhuluneli yaseTexas yaseRiphabhlikhi uGreg Abbott kuvavanyo lwe-coronavirus njengoko egxeka abafuduki ngokusasaza. Covid-19. Hlala nathi.
