13:00:26 From Ellen Judd : Welcome, Doug! 13:02:46 From kathrin : hello all from kathrin, NSVoice of Women Mi'kmaki, the ancestral and unceded territory of the Mi'kmaq people 13:02:48 From Tamara Lorincz : Hello and welcome everyone! Looking forward to our conversation on revitalizing a pan-Canadian peace & anti-war movement. In solidarity! 13:03:20 From Ken Stone : Ken Stone here from the Hamilton Coalition to Stop The War 13:04:04 From Larry : hello from Ottawa 13:04:33 From Adam Wynne : Hi. I am Professor Metta Spencer's research assistant on Peace Magazine and Project Save the World. Excited to sit in and listen to this interesting meeting! 13:04:43 From Vanessa Lanteigne : Hi everyone! So excited for this meeting! Vanessa Lanteigne, National Coordinator for the Canadian Voice of Women for Peace. Looking forward to this discussion. 13:04:48 From Adam Wynne : Professor Spencer should be joining shortly. 13:05:20 From Mary-Ellen Francoeur : Hello everyone from Toronto! 13:05:36 From Mark Tymm : Mark Tymm, graduate student at uOttawa Faculty of Law and NPSIA Carleton University. Former staff at Mennonite Central Committee and current Board Member of Mines Action Canada. Unfortunately I am simultaneously in a zoom call (on my phone) for the Black Lives Matter movement at the same time. 13:05:44 From Larry : we should start 13:06:04 From Miguel : Hi everyone. Miguel here from the Canadian Peace Congress. 13:06:26 From Lynn Armstrong : Hi everyone. Lynn from Ladner near Vancouver, BC. 13:08:04 From Penny : picture identified as Penny is Penny and SAUL 13:10:08 From Sandy Greenberg : Sandy Greenberg her from Nova Scotia (and Canadian) Voice of Women for Peace 13:10:40 From Lyn Adamson : Lyn Adamson Canadian Voice of Women for Peace 13:11:01 From Brent Patterson : Hello everyone, Brent Patterson from Peace Brigades International-Canada. Looking forward to our discussion! 13:11:19 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : Marla - Canadian Voice of Women for Peace & theglobalsunriseproject.com 13:15:16 From World BEYOND War : List of presenters: Tamara Lorincz (3 minutes) – very brief background, CANSEC protest and peace conference, No CANSEC organizing committee, the need for collaboration like CPA in the past Metta Spencer (5 minutes) – Peace History Ellen Judd (3 minutes) – Current issues Greta Zarro (3-5 minutes) – World Beyond War proposal Steve Staples (5 minutes) – Peace Quest *Later in the call, James Clarke of the CPA will say a few words (3 minute) 13:18:00 From Janet Hudgins : Janet Hudgins, Vancouver, BC I have always wondered how we will ever get out of the depths we are in now if we don’t have discourse with the opposition, whomever they are. As there many active and effective peace orgs those numbers alone are bound to force the attention of politicians, academics, institutions to actually meet and concur on how to bring about a culture of peace with all it’s instruments, education the most critical. I am eager to seek that end and able and wiling to work for it. 13:19:16 From William Geimer : Can anyone tell me how to get a PW to upgrade to Zoom 5.0? 13:20:01 From Frank & Gillian : We were prompted to update as soon as we tried to sign in. 13:20:16 From World BEYOND War : You shouldn't need a password to update. Go to zoom.com/download to download the latest version of the app. 13:21:37 From David Walsh : We need to strategize how we can reach a wider audience – beyond regular peace activists. These two quotes are from two slides shown at the conference, and are on target. One of the early speakers on Friday showed the following quote in one of her slides. – I believe it was Te Ao Pritchard Connecting with Communities • Don’t assume that your issue is important to other groups or communities. • Make it relevant to them by finding out what THEY care about & how that relates to your issue. ------------------------------------------------------------ Here was another good quote: “When they tell you there is not money for new programs – we know there is always money for war.” David Walsh 13:22:19 From DavidK : Center for Global Nonkilling to promote change toward the measurable goal of a killing-free world What has the Canadian Peace Movement accomplished? I heard about the founding of many organizations and conferences, but what did their activities achieve? What effect did they have on government policies? On war-making activities? On corporate activities? https://nonkilling.org 13:22:45 From Ali Mallah : The Canadia Peace Alliance and many other groups have mobilized thousands and thousands against War from the early 2000. We all have a lots to share, I hope we could focus on agenda and action otherwise, we will use a lots of time about just introduction 13:23:56 From World BEYOND War : After the speakers (listed above), we will go into the open discussion portion. Here are the discussion questions: 1. What brings us together? 2. What goals/campaigns could we work on? 3. What are our challenges? 4. Ideas for how we could organize this network/alliance? 13:25:32 From Ali Mallah : Well, some active camapigners been left out of the speakers list!!!! 13:29:04 From DavidK : David Walsh. Good point. IMO envisioning a broad strategy is critical. 13:31:17 From William Geimer : Thanks. I had to join thru browser b/c the link required upgrade, which required PW. Bot was frustrating and no help. I have Bells for Peace meetings coming up so am anxious to get this fixed.I will probably leave meeting early and go to zooom.com/downoad as suggested. My 3 priorities under the "What Goals Campaigns Could We Work On? 1. Learning how to communicate more effectively with ordinary Canadians--better than we have been doing. 2. Drawing together with youth. 3. Cooperation between faith communities and peace groups. If interested in these issues, contact me at peacevetcanada@gmail.com. Thanks 13:31:28 From World BEYOND War : Ali, everyone on the call will have a chance to speak during the upcoming discussion portion. :) 13:36:15 From Ali Mallah : Appreciate that, However, still doesn not address important point about leaving out mobilizers against the War on Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine and Diversity. 13:40:39 From World BEYOND War : Thank you for the feedback, Ali. Our committee's organising process was that we had only wanted to have a couple of speakers lined up, and leave most of the time for open discussion for all the participants to speak, so that is why we have only a handful of folks as pre-selected speakers. 13:44:19 From Metta Spencer : I made a more comprehensive time line about the factors influencing Canada’s attitude toward peace and human security. I could paste it in here if you want. And/or in a few days you could download it from our website, https://tosavetheworld.ca . (The website is under reconstruction now, but will be looking good in a week.) 13:44:34 From World BEYOND War : Thanks, Metta! 13:46:05 From DavidK : I’d love to see it, Metta. 13:50:09 From Beverlee : the raised hand feature is not showing on my screen. will you enable it or is it just me 13:51:06 From Larry : I don’t have the hands up symbol as well 13:51:42 From Janet Hudgins : I don’t see where to raise one’s hand. 13:51:47 From Ali Mallah : me too 13:51:55 From Adam Wynne : Is the Canadians for a Nuclear Weapons Convention still active? http://nuclearweaponsconvention.ca/ 13:52:02 From Ali Mallah : i keep waiving 13:52:04 From Metta Spencer : It seems not to let me paste things in. Sorry. You’ll need to check the website in a week or so for the timeline if you want to see it. 13:52:13 From Furquan Gehlen : bring up participants pane to see hand 13:52:17 From Lyn Adamson : go to participants on the bottom pane 13:52:21 From Peter Jones : Can we jst raise a real hand to the camera? ;) 13:52:33 From Lyn Adamson : click on that and you should see the place where you can raise your hand 13:52:58 From Tim : ally with Canadian Network Against Nuclear Weapons (CNANW) chaired by Earl Turcott 13:53:33 From Janet Hudgins : Participants doesn’t work here. 13:54:27 From Tim : We should all come together under one roof. 13:54:38 From Vanessa Lanteigne : Great points Matt! I think getting a diverse coalition together simply around the fact that there is somehow always money for the weapons (military) but not for services that benefit Canadians for education, the environment etc. 13:55:07 From Tim : Yes, link all the other sites together. 13:55:34 From emma : very good and very effective idea! 13:57:19 From Metta Spencer : Canadians for a Nuclear Weapons Convention is active but has not been able to achieve everything it wanted. They collected thousands of signatures from members of the Order of Canada and put it to parliament. Unanimously, parliament passed a resolution that at the government should take the lead in demanding the abolition of nuclear weapons. Yet nothing has happened. Indeed, the government of Canada is following along with US policy on the grounds that Canada belongs to NATO and nuclear weapons are the centrepiece of NATO’s “security” policy. 13:57:57 From James Clark : Sorry if I missed this: I was wondering if someone could post all four questions we plan to be discussing today. 13:58:09 From World BEYOND War : 1. What brings us together? 2. What goals/campaigns could we work on? 3. What are our challenges? 4. Ideas for how we could organize this network/alliance? 13:58:15 From James Clark : Thank you! 13:58:31 From Janet Hudgins : It looks like some of us do not have the opportunity to speak but I have written my comment in Chat and would like to talk about possibilities further at any time. I have to leave now but I’m on your email list and ready to talk anytime. 13:59:16 From World BEYOND War : Thanks for joining us, Janet! 13:59:23 From Tamara Lorincz : Thank you Richard for your suggestions. Science for Peace is doing excellent work with lectures etc... Great work Saul on the Canadian Peace Initiative: https://canadianpeaceinitiative.ca/ 13:59:50 From Jon Cash : Jon Cash 14:01:05 From Peter Jones : Saul makes great points about focus of initiatives and differentiating so each sub-group has a specific impact. We can't all spread out across every goal and project. 14:01:23 From Douglas Booker : On the history in Canada I would also add the 2017 Conference at the U of T, Solidarity and Fightback : Building Resistance to US-Led War, Militarism and Neo Fascism, hosted by the ILPS. The conference brought together about 350 people from around the world it included UNAC from the US, Black Lives for Peace, That conference gave rise to Resist, a US based Anti Imperialist Peace Alliance. 14:02:14 From Peter Jones : Saul also suggests connecting with youth, indigenous, and climate movements. I'm a founder of Drawdown Toronto and have personally been making the crossover where I can in Drawdown. 14:03:22 From Tamara Lorincz : Douglas, who organized Solidarity and Fightback : Building Resistance to US-Led War in 2017? I just moved to Ontario that year. I'm in Waterloo. 14:05:51 From Peter Jones : Movement logic is single-issue focused and that can make it hard to cross interests. Indigenous connection to anti-war ought to be connected by having them join us, so they can make the relationship. 14:06:12 From Tamara Lorincz : Lyn, you are right we do NOT have a feminist foreign policy! Great ideas - thanks for sharing. Yes, let's achieve things together! 14:08:39 From Vanessa Lanteigne : I agree, Larry! Let’s get a network of representatives of peace groups! 14:10:12 From Tamara Lorincz : Yes, Colin, let's SHUT DOWN CANSEC! :) June 2021! 14:12:20 From Tamara Lorincz : Great ideas Larry and Colin! Distributive process of protesting CANSEC nation-wide. 14:12:27 From William Geimer : multiplying the venues in CANSEC 21 is a really good idea. Thanks Colin 14:13:12 From Marguerite Warner : Marguerite Warner here: 14:13:22 From Ellen Judd : Excellent proposal, Colin, and essential for a national movement and national impact. Looking forward! 14:13:46 From Douglas Booker : Can you add me to the speakers list. 14:13:51 From World BEYOND War : yes 14:14:26 From Lyn Adamson : possibly multiple action dates Colin as well as locations... and maybe link with concern re arms trade eg sales to Saudi Arabia - coordinated campaign over a number of months? 14:14:28 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : how to make the efforts of this movement in Canada go viral around the world at the time of Cansec - solidarity protests…. 14:14:51 From Ellen Judd : Hi Marguerite. Glad to see you here. 14:14:55 From Lyn Adamson : great idea for international solidarity actions Marla 14:15:29 From World BEYOND War : Marguerite, would you like to be added to the speakers list? 14:16:16 From Lyn Adamson : will WBW keep a list of all of us who have participated today and will we be able to follow up with each other? 14:16:18 From Marguerite Warner : Regarding Q 2. I would add NATO—serious discussion of Canada’s continued participation in NATO—what is it good for? what is it costing us? is it consistent with our ideas about Canada’s role in the world, etc. 14:16:20 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : Yes, every country who attends Cansec should be opposed by their citizens at home 14:16:38 From Hannah Hadikin : Hannah Pls add me to the speakers list. Thank you 14:17:01 From World BEYOND War : Yes, Lyn. We will conclude by discussing follow-up and next steps. 14:17:05 From Kiran : please add me to speakers list 14:17:06 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : Yes, the movement needs to inclusive. 14:17:15 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : Not enough representation here. 14:18:03 From Ellen Judd : Hannah--go to participants or chat on the bottom and the hands up icon will be available to the right 14:18:03 From World BEYOND War : will do, hannah 14:18:29 From Kiran F : Sorry... I've moved computers - My name is Kiran Fatima 14:18:45 From Kiran F : Please add me on this account to the list. I won't talk long, promise! :) 14:18:50 From Earl Snider : Coming in late. Has there been any discussion of aligning with Servas Canada? 14:18:56 From World BEYOND War : will do, kiran 14:20:29 From Tamara Lorincz : I appreciate all the work that Miguel and the Canadian Peace Congress have been doing: https://www.canadianpeacecongress.ca/ 14:20:33 From Hannah Hadikin : HI Ellen, I don't have the icon at the bottom, but I have been putting up my hand, on the video. 14:20:52 From kathrin : we are in a context of acute urgencey with the ongoing waves of imperialistic white supremacy . - without coalitions and entering spaces that we have not traditionally act in .. we are business as usual 14:21:08 From World BEYOND War : Hannah, I've got you on the list. We will get to everyone. 14:21:23 From Jon Cash : Click participants icon then raise hand 14:22:22 From Tamara Lorincz : Miguel you are absolutely right about NATO and the threat of a war on China. Canada has been violating international law this our regime change operation against Venezuela. Canada out of NATO! Hands off Venezuela! End the Sanctions against Iran, Russia, Venezuela, etc... 14:22:25 From Hannah Hadikin : Gender equity important 14:22:49 From Tim : We should work as a large package - joining with the climate change group. Yes, we are each specialist and have our own niche but we need to unite. The New Green Deal doesn't have the military in it, and needs to. We need to link our websites. 14:23:19 From Douglas Booker : Clearly we will be involved in CANSEC 2021. In order to build a network we need to engage in trust building steps. We are already at War on a number of fronts. Sanctions against Iran and Venezuela are economic warfare against these countries, in the hope that if we cause enough economic devastation on the people of these countries that their governments will collapse. These are measures which kill indiscriminately. We should collectively launch an anti sanctions campaign as one potential common exercise. 14:23:21 From kathrin : biting bullets? how many of us have spoken up about the underfunding of feminist organizations ? 14:23:47 From kathrin : yes to responding 14:24:18 From Jon Cash : The younger generation is making a lot of sacrifices to keep their elders safe. If you average mortality rate for those 0 to 39 it is twice (or a bit more depending on the country) that of the seasonal flu. I believe the older generations should start to make sacrifices (i.e. money) in favor of climate change and divergence from fossil fuel). The vast majority of power brokers and decision makers are old white men. It's time for this to change. The best action take by a country in the entire world was that of the New Zealand Prime Minister. A 38 year old woman made the best life saving decisions on the planet. The suffering to the world from climate change will dwarf this horrible pandemic yet the people making the decisions won't have to witness the carnage of their actions or rather inaction. 14:24:52 From Metta Spencer : Peace Magazine has an archive on our website, peacemagazine.org and sponsors Project Save the World, which is not an organization. We simply provide a meeting place for activists to discuss six global threats—war and weapons, global warming, famine, pandemics, radioactive contamination, and cyberattacks. These potential catastrophes are causally linked. We’re working together on a system, even when we specialize on one particular one. We expect and encourage people to offer diverse perspectives. However, we also have a single set of proposals, a “Platform for Survival” and hope that people will widely support it as a package. If a person favours, say, 20 of its 25 planks, that’s good enough; please sign it. Nobody needs to agree with all planks. The website is for activists everywhere. In a week we will have a page about movements, a weekly talk show, an event calendar & a monthly Town Hall. It’s https://tosavetheworld.ca . Please visit it in a week and share your ideas there. 14:25:00 From Ellen Judd : It take 14:25:00 From Steven Staples : Good intervention Mark +1 14:25:26 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : To get the general public out there with no knowledge of any of this you need to start with a more basic campaign that moves the money out of military - coming out of a pandemic, with a focus on health there is a clear bridge to communicate the climate crisis and the nuclear crisis as it relates to health and where the money is going to come from. These bigger issues will find support with academics, students on campus, etc. 14:25:35 From Tamara Lorincz : The Government of Canada has spent more money to be part of the F-35 development consortium over the past 20 years than on the Canadian Status of Women office (now Women and Gender Equality office). Women are NOT a priority in Canada - it's the weapons manufacturers! 14:25:36 From Marilyn Konstapel : As someone who is quite new to the Peace movement. I would really like to see a Canadian Hub, where someone who is interested in finding out what is being done in Canada, and who works on which issues, possibly also to find statistics on Canada's military expenditures, and arms trade and so on. So, it is easy to find the information to needed to get active. And maybe this hub can be used to start things like letter writing campaigns, and to bring people together to come out to each other's protests, and get involved in each other's actions. 14:26:19 From Ken Stone : I agree with Miguel and Doug Brown on a key point: NATO. Canadian foreign policy is based on remaining part of this murderous military alliance. In my opinion, getting "Canada Out of NATO" must be the basis of unity for any new peace organization in Canada. 14:26:27 From Henry : Just wanted to let you all know that the Hamilton Coalition to Stop the War has submitted a Parliamentary Petition that is being sponsored by Scott Duvall and has been approved and backed by the Federal NDP. It will be published, if not tomorrow, sometime this week. In addition, we have nearly 1000 signatures on our ONLINE Change.org petition to Justin Trudeau to lift all of Canada's economic sanctions now. This petition follows from the UN Secretary-General's call for G20 countries to drop their coercive economic measures in order to help in the global effort against the pandemic. At this time we are 52 signatures short of 1,000 Here is the link. https://www.change.org/p/right-honourable-justin-trudeau-suspend-canada-s-economic-sanctions-now 14:26:29 From Matt : Agree with Kasha & Marla 14:26:34 From Hannah Hadikin : We need gender equality in speakers 14:26:37 From Steven Staples : Good idea Marilyn - a hub 14:26:38 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : Reason most youth have not gravitated to this movement is because it’s so daunting. 14:27:19 From Matt : We need a shared goal that is simple and positive. Based on an issue already in people’s minds is far better still 14:27:37 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : UN is great at engaging youth - YES MATT.. 14:27:38 From Lyn Adamson : good thinking Matt 14:27:52 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : feel free to reach out to us (a youth-led media organization) theglobalsunriseproject@gmail.com 14:28:03 From World BEYOND War : Marilyn, we would be happy to help facilitate the website hosting to create a Canadian hub and use our paid Action Network platform for posting events, letter campaigns, etc 14:28:04 From Lyn Adamson : yes Marla - so we need achievable goals 14:28:13 From Lyn Adamson : so youth can get engaged and see progress 14:30:13 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : the public being hit by a depression will understand if you communicate the message of the cost of war and what that money can buy in terms of reaching the sag’s. 14:30:18 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : SDG’s 14:30:22 From Frank & Gillian : “Net zero weapons for Canada” sounds great :-) 14:30:25 From Steven Staples : Great comments Peter 14:30:38 From Lynn Armstrong : Hi Greta & Tamara. Could I please be in the speakers list. I can’t use raise hand function because I’m a co-host. Thanks. 14:31:54 From Steven Staples : Interesting... do we sell more weapons than we buy? is that a "net zero"? 14:31:57 From World BEYOND War : Sure, Lynn! Lynn, Brent, Doug H-W, #306, Mary-Ellen, Simon, Doug Booker, Kiran F, and Hannah H - you are all in the queue. We see you and will call on you. 14:32:04 From Charlene Herrera : As part of a anti-imperialist Filipino youth organization, it is good to hear that many folks agree that there should be a more youth representation in this work, however I'm seeing a lack of awareness as to what should be done. I disagree that the youth are not gravitated to us because the work is daunting, there are many youth and students that are openly and explicitly anti-war, we need to ground the anti-war work beyond just beyond making alliances and the current work we're doing. we need to create more linkages to the issues that the youth care about 14:32:14 From Kiran F : thanks Greta 14:34:21 From Steven Staples : Yes Charlene - we need to create the space for that intereaction, and then accept that the way forward will be transformed by the interaction. ppl cant cling to the previous ways of doing things as the way we will be successful in the future. 14:34:25 From Steven Staples : thanks! 14:34:35 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : Yes many are Charlene but we go into the schools on a regular basis and most are interested in climate change - you rarely see them in droves on these calls. So linking both those issues is important. Would love to learn more about your work. email us at theglobalsunriseproject@gmail.com 14:34:57 From Charles McFadden : How do we raise our hand to speak? 14:36:06 From World BEYOND War : Click on Participants, then click Raise Hand. Or use the chat to tell me you want to speak. 14:36:49 From Peter Jones : I see Steve - No Net Zero is not a technical measure, is a meme to inspire a goal. Perhaps it might be Absolute Zero, but that also needs to be explained. The idea is that we roll down weapons export industry to zero and demiltarize the economy here. We can't always define how chemicals, metals, electronics are used when exported. But as long as there is a Can Forces, they will buy stuff. So Net Zero for me is a zero export industry. 14:37:18 From DavidK : Nonkilling Societies  by Joám Evans Pim (ed.) Summary: This volume arises from a crucial question formulated by political scientist Glenn D. Paige: “Is a Nonkilling Society Possible?” Paige reminds us that nonkilling societies, characterized by no killing of humans and no threats to kill, do exist in spite of having passed largely unnoticed to most of the scientific community. Most authors who are contributing to this volume have been repeating the same crucial fact for decades: killing-free societies, as those imagined by Paige in his book, are not a utopian dream; they are a genuine actuality that has been in existence for millenia. This volume provides firm evidence that the only feasible answer to Paige’s question is undoubtedly affirmative. Download «Nonkilling Societies» [2 MB] 14:38:08 From Mark Tymm : For those thinking about coordinating Zoom calls, I have seen them done well and done poorly. We are fortunate today to have WorldBeyondWar doing a wonderful job. A great resource recently published by some peace activists on Do's and Don'ts for digital coordinating is available here: https://humanitariandisarmament.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Dos-and-Donts-5-26-20-accessible.pdf Thanks again, Greta and others, for coordinating this whole weekend. 14:38:24 From Ali Mallah : Is it possible to have an email list for all participants for further discussion, netwroking and coordinating? 14:38:43 From Charlene Herrera : @Kasha & Marla, do you usually go to the high schools? then maybe we should look into university students, out-of-school youth, working youth, racialized youth, and special interest groups of youth. there is youth beyond the high schools! :) 14:39:05 From World BEYOND War : Yes, we will talk about that in the conclusion and next steps for following up with each other. 14:39:41 From Steven Staples : good ideas brent 14:40:29 From Tamara Lorincz : Yes, great ideas Brent and everyone so far! 14:40:45 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : yes - important to include all youth 14:41:14 From Metta Spencer : Yes, Brent. See tosavetheworld.ca for monthly Town Halls, weekly hour-long video discussions, and a space for comments and discussions. It is not just for Canadians, but activists anywhere in the world. 14:41:35 From James Clark : May I get on the speakers’ list, please? 14:42:14 From Steven Staples : BTW Mark and Matt touched upon personal reflection as essential. I have been thinking more about this, and maybe how it is more important than how I had considered it in the past. 14:42:34 From DavidK : YES! on International links 14:43:02 From Steven Staples : Thanks Kiran - Kasha makes awesome videos 14:43:10 From Earl Snider : There is an international network that links to most countries of the world. Look at Servas.org 14:43:23 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : Thanks @stevenstaples 14:44:11 From Kiran F : Thanks Steven Thanks Earl 14:45:13 From Tamara Lorincz : World Beyond War is also making important international connections so too is the International Peace Bureau: www.ipb.org 14:45:21 From Margaret : follow the money and collect a wealth tax! The ultra wealthy corporations have too much power that is almost impossible to oppose! 14:45:41 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : Agree Margaret! 14:46:00 From Steven Staples : IPB has an amazing new President - Philip Jenkins. Hope to have him come visit soon 14:46:11 From DavidK : Yes! Ned to change the culture. Look at all the war memorials. From in front of Churchs, in every city, in all many schools. 14:46:13 From Metta Spencer : Yes, Margaret. A wealth tax will be extremely helpful, at least if we divert the money to solving real problems. 14:46:26 From Miguel Figueroa : Also the World Peace Council - https://www.wpc-in.org/ 14:46:44 From Mary-Ellen Francoeur : Mary-Ellen Francoeur of PAx Christi Toronto wishes to envision a building on the issues of great concern today. Health has become a very important issue and it is linked to climate. There is a need to gather peace and justice groups, age groups, health groups , indigenous groups around the issues of great concern. We can promote the links between health, climate, militarism/aweapons (especially nuclear weapons), and spirituality. Linking these would touch the hearts and passions of many groups. 14:46:47 From Margaret : not to mention stopping offshore hidden wealth 14:46:57 From Vanessa Lanteigne : I completely agree Doug! We, Canadians, pay for these weapons and war 14:48:55 From Tim : Yes Doug, Don 14:48:56 From Marilyn Konstapel : I totally agree with Lynn. We need a central website. 14:49:01 From Tamara Lorincz : Everyone, may we go 10 more minutes so that everyone can contribute? This is an excellent discussion and I would hate to cut it short if people are willing to stay on a bit longer... 14:49:28 From Kiran F : Yes Tamara I'm good with that 14:49:44 From DavidK : I can stay longer. 14:49:59 From Tim : Yes Doug. Don't Bank on the Bomb with ICAN and Pax 14:50:00 From Brent Patterson : I'm very much enjoying this conversation. Thank you everyone! Maybe an email list will be shared, but please feel free to connect with me at Peace Brigades International at brent@pbicanada.org 14:50:05 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : To reach youth, you need to reach them on the media they’re consuming online - they don’t follow mainstream news, tv. 14:50:12 From Charlene Herrera : A website is great, however we shouldn't focus a lot of our efforts in creating a website. If visibility is what we're aiming for, then we should be doing more grassroots organizing, and be visible in the streets 14:50:35 From Kiran F : Please add me to any email list for peace news and actions: kiranfatimapeace@gmail.com 14:50:47 From Steven Staples : Lynn where can we learn more about network weaving? 14:50:48 From Kiran F : I love this whole conversation 14:50:48 From Miguel Figueroa : I would request that the email contact list of all participants should be shared with everyone. Can that be done? 14:51:18 From Steven Staples : sry I have (yet another Zoom...) at 6 PM :) 14:52:02 From kathrin : canadian network, great idea lynn! 14:52:15 From Peter Jones : I agree, I think the WBW site is a strong presence and can host a Canadian site today. I think "one more" website isn't going to make a huge difference, I think the master directory of Can peace groups ought to be on WBW.org 14:52:30 From Peter Jones : And we already ARE starting today a Canadian peace network. 14:52:59 From Jon Cash : Zoom Town Hall with presenters. Groups represented here today use internal email list to invite participants and draw in more people with the ultimate goal an action with as many groups and issues represented as possible. Natural Social Justice and Peace. They are all connected 14:54:06 From Steven Staples : Great thoughts Mary-Ellen. Faith community is essential - thanks 14:55:43 From Tamara Lorincz : To everyone: Should we create a googlegroup with everyone who replied/participated in this meeting? And/or should we share individual emails - this would require people's permission... 14:56:17 From Judith Wouk : Thank you all. Very inspiring. I's glad I could participate even peripherally. 14:56:44 From Tamara Lorincz : Simon, thank you for your great, important contributions! 14:56:49 From Hannah Hadikin : Hannah, Sorry we've been having power outages, and it went out temporarily again.! My ideas for connecting is to bring the focus that communities have concerns about . In our Kootenay region, in BC, there is a lot of concern about post pandemic: food security, poverty, homelessness, domestic violence, inadequate care in facilities, etc. All interconnected when budgets go to the military, fighter jets, war ships, etc. Thus an opportunity at the local level with groups to hold town meetings, and presentations , etc etc. linking the military budgets with campaigns to redirecting to these very current and critical issues. I had mentioned about the massive alerts to thousands of people in Central Kootenay to possibility of evacuation, due to rising rivers and creeks. No denial that climate change has an impact. Thus further opportunity to make the linkages between military spending and the lack of spending in transitioning to resource base economy. 14:57:12 From Charles McFadden : We will have to join another webinar in five minutes, but just want to underline how helpful it would be to Karen and me in our work in New Brunswick if the sponsors of this meeting would act on the proposal to form a network of the organizations and individuals of those who have participated in this excellent get together of peace activists. 14:57:20 From Metta Spencer : If you enjoyed this, please join Project Save the World’s next monthly town hall. On the last Sunday of every month, from 2 to 4 pm (Eastern Time), you can join us on Zoom at https://zoom.us/j/9108970203 . We held one just before this meeting and there were 15 speakers, including Canadians and people from India, Wales, Ukraine, and the US. 14:57:28 From Steven Staples : Thanks Simon -- You're the generational shift -- we can't make assumptions of shared experience, so a great reminder. 14:57:50 From Frank & Gillian : Yes, thanks, Simon! 14:57:59 From kathrin : thank you simon - really important 14:58:00 From Lyn Adamson : I will need to sign off for another meeting at 6. This has been very valuable. Special thank you to Simon for great ideas for involving youth. Thank you everyone for your contributions to the discussion! Lyn Adamson, Toronto, Canadian Voice of Women for Peace. 14:58:02 From Lynn Armstrong : I’ve talked with Greta and Tamara and others about concerns with WBW looking after a Canadian Peace Network because WBW is clearly a USA based organization. Further discussion welcome. 14:58:42 From Steven Staples : See you next time! 14:58:47 From Charlene Herrera : Thanks Simon! I agree a lot with your points. Burnout is a major issue in youth organizing spaces, and having clear politics and goals is also an important factor in organizing youth 14:58:49 From Kiran F : That's a concern for me too, Lynn 14:59:11 From Kiran F : Any org in Canada should be 100% based in Canada 15:00:01 From World BEYOND War : Thanks for the feedback, all! We are a global organization with members in 175 countries, and we are currently working on attaining tax-deductible status in Canada and we have 1 staff member in Canada and are in the process of hiring another. Happy to help in this process in whatever way is most valuable. 15:02:22 From Tamara Lorincz : Yay people from New Brunswick! 15:02:27 From margaret rao : Thanks Simon. We need more 'Simon says...' like you. 15:03:00 From Earl Snider : Different organizations have successes that can be shared. Also capacities. 15:03:33 From David Walsh : ……David Walsh In working to reach a wider audience, we can ask: • How do we have more of a presence with the mainstream and alternative media. As Tamara keeps saying – we have a great opportunity now to call for the cancellation of the fighter jets purchase – as a way to call for transformational change. • Military spending is like the elephant in the room that the mainstream does not want to acknowledge – for example when the mainstream media talk of spending priorities and justice issues, they seldom talk about reducing military spending and the $16 billion cost of the fighter jets. Brent Patterson wrote a great article in Rabble and George Monbiot of the Guardian - about spending on fighter jets. • As the economy restructures going forward, there is going to be a lot of competition for limited public spending – this is a great opportunity to call for public funds to be diverted from military spending to other programs. • Citizens are occupied by so many issues – we need to pay attention to their issue 15:03:40 From Tamara Lorincz : Let's this be the final 5 people in the queue so that we can wrap up! We may have to go an extra 10 minutes to get everyone in. Thanks for your patience! 15:04:25 From Tamara Lorincz : Yay Nova Scotia! 15:05:21 From Henry : Just wanted to let you all know that the Hamilton Coalition to Stop the War has submitted a Parliamentary Petition that is being sponsored by Scott Duvall and has been approved and backed by the Federal NDP. It will be published, if not tomorrow, sometime this week. In addition, we have nearly 1000 signatures on our ONLINE Change.org petition to Justin Trudeau to lift all of Canada's economic sanctions now. This petition follows from the UN Secretary-General's call for G20 countries to drop their coercive economic measures in order to help in the global effort against the pandemic. At this time we are 52 signatures short of 1,000 Here is the link. https://www.change.org/p/right-honourable-justin-trudeau-suspend-canada-s-economic-sanctions-now 15:05:22 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : Love that idea Sandy! 15:05:28 From Tamara Lorincz : Jacqui O'Neill is Canada's new Ambassador for Women, Peace & Security. It's a position in Global Affairs but connected to other departments. 15:06:43 From Tamara Lorincz : Great idea, what about an international concert for the Global Ceasefire and World Peace! 15:07:00 From Larry : if there are people on this call who would like to participate in taking next steps toward creating the network please leave your emails in the chat! 15:07:30 From DavidK : I support the Youth Peace Service idea, Sandy. They could receive training in non-violent securit. 15:08:07 From Earl Snider : Earl.ServasCanada@gmail.com 15:09:15 From Ali Mallah : Canada is agressivley participating isn Sanctions agaisnt Venz., Iran, Syria...and selling arms to Saudid Arabia to oppress its citizens and continue killing of yemenis, It also enjoy a love affair with "Israel". 15:09:24 From Matt : matt@quakerservice.ca 15:09:37 From Larry : larry.wasslen@gmail.com 15:10:02 From Yasmeen Khan : yazmaryam@hotmail.com (anti-imperialist alliance Ottawa) 15:10:13 From World BEYOND War : greta@worldbeyondwar.org 15:10:27 From Kasha & Marla Slavner : theglobalsunriseproject@gmail.com 15:10:45 From Metta Spencer : mspencer@web.net 15:10:45 From Brent Patterson : Just sharing this article - UN Secretary-General Guterres repeats his plea for a global ceasefire, while Canada’s military exports have doubled at https://pbicanada.org/2020/05/24/un-secretary-general-repeats-his-plea-for-global-ceasefire/ 15:10:51 From Helen Peacock : Helen.jeanalda.peacock@gmail.com 15:10:52 From Charlene Herrera : anakbayanottawa@gmail.com 15:10:56 From Colin Stuart : cdstuart@sympatico.ca 15:10:59 From Simon Daley : simon.joseph.daley@gmail.com 15:11:05 From Marilyn Konstapel : Idea for common activity: Reduce defence spending so Canada has funds for providing better health care, eldercare, environmental protection 15:11:12 From Earl Snider : Thanks James 15:11:50 From Brent Patterson : Also to quickly note that on May 27 Global Affairs released its ‘2019 Exports of Military Goods’ report that was tabled in Parliament that day. Among the key findings listed in the report: “For the 2019 calendar year, the value of Canadian exports of controlled military goods and technology amounted to a record high of approximately $3.757 billion.” 15:12:10 From Brent Patterson : The full report is at https://www.international.gc.ca/trade-commerce/controls-controles/reports-rapports/military-goods-2019-marchandises-militaries.aspx?lang=eng 15:12:16 From Kiran F : kiranfatimapeace@gmail.com 15:12:35 From Brent Patterson : brent@pbicanada.org 15:12:36 From Peter Jones : Peter Jones pjones@ocadu.ca 15:13:23 From Lynn Armstrong : lynnbea@gmail.com 15:13:46 From Marilyn Konstapel : mmkonstapel@gmail.com 15:13:50 From Marguerite Warner : mwarner@mts.net 15:14:44 From Earl Snider : Earl Snider, Ottawa Earl.ServasCanada@gmail.com 15:15:43 From margaret rao : Much thanks organizers & participants! To be continued.... 15:15:51 From DavidK : david_kehler@yahoo.com 15:15:59 From Frank & Gillian : Thanks Everyone! Bye for now. 15:16:02 From Kiran F : Thanks Tamara, Greta, and everyone who participated! 15:16:07 From James Clark : Great work to the organizers!