Tsamaiso ea Trump e Tsoela Pele Litšokelo le Liphephetso Khahlano le Korea Leboea, Ho Rala Motheo oa Ntoa ea Nyutlelie

AMY MOLEMO: sena ke Demokrasi Hona Joale!, democracynow.org, Tlaleho ea Ntoa le Khotso. Ke Amy Goodman, ke na le Nermeen Shaikh.

NTSANE SHAIKH: Joale re leba Korea Leboea, moo likhohlano li ntseng li eketseha le United States. Leetong la beke le beke la ho ea Asia, Mongoli oa Ts'ireletso, James Mattis, o ile a hatisa qeto ea lipuisano mabapi le khokahano pakeng tsa linaha tsena tse peli, empa a lemosa hore US e ke ke ea amohela Korea Leboea ea nyutlelie. Enoa ke Mattis ea buang ka Moqebelo nakong ea seboka le molekane oa hae oa Korea Boroa, Song Young-moo, Seoul.

HLOKAHA MOTLATSI JAMES MATTIS: U se ke oa etsa phoso: Tlhaselo leha e le efe ea United States kapa balekane ba rona e tla hlola. Ts'ebeliso efe kapa efe ea libetsa tsa nyutlelie ke Leboea e tla kopana le karabelo e kholo ea sesole, e sebetsang le e kholo. … Ha ke kholoe boemo boo United States e neng e tla amohela Korea Leboea e le matla a nyutlelie.

NTSANE SHAIKH: Mattis o fihlile Korea Boroa ka Labohlano bakeng sa leeto la matsatsi a mabeli la ho ea naheng eo, pele ho ketelo hamorao bekeng ena ho ea sebakeng seo ke Donald Trump. Trump e ts'ehetsoe ho etela China, Vietnam, Japane, Philippines le Korea Boroa nakong ea ketelo ea matsatsi a 12. Basebeletsi ba White House ba arotsoe mabapi le hore na Trump e lokela ho etela Sebaka sa Demilitarised pakeng tsa Leboea le Boroa nakong ea leeto, ka lipelaelo tsa hore ketelo e ka mpefatsa ts'abo ea ntoa ea nyutlelie.

AMY MOLEMO: Khohlano pakeng tsa Korea Leboea le United States e ntse e aha kamora tlhahlobo ea liteko tsa nyutlelie le tsa bosholu ke Pyongyang le phapanyetsano e matla ea mantsoe pakeng tsa Trump le moetapele oa Korea Leboea Kim Jong-un. Trump e ts'osetse ho felisa tsohle tsa Korea Leboea, e leng sechaba sa batho ba limilione tsa 25. Trump e ile ea bua ka khoeli e fetileng, "Tla utloa Letona la Litaba tsa Kantle ho Korea Leboea le bua ho UN Haeba a bua ka maikutlo a Little Rocket Man, a ke ke a ba teng halelele ho feta!" Titter ea Trump e ile ea tla ha Tonakholo ea Litaba tsa Kantle ho Korea, Ri Yong-ho a re Trump e joalo. ka "sepheo sa ho ipolaea." Democrats tsa DRM li hatella melao e tla thibela Mopresidente Trump ho etsa lets'oao la ho itlhasela khahlanong le Korea Leboea.

Ho feta moo, re kopantsoe ke Christine Ahn, mothehi le motsamaisi ea phahameng oa Women Cross DMZ, mokhatlo oa lefatše lohle oa basali ba bokellang ho felisa Ntoa ea Korea. O ntse a bua le rona a tsoa Hawaii.

Christine, re leboha hore ebe o ile a boela a re kopanya Demokrasi Hona Joale! Na o ka bua ka sephetho sa ketelo ee ea Mattis le ho nyoloha, hape, ka tsitsipano ea US-North Korea le seo re ka se lebellang ha Mopresidente Trump a ea sebakeng sena matsatsing a 'maloa?

Christine AHN: Lumela hoseng, Amy.

Ho bonahala polelo ea Mattis, haholoholo ho DMZ, hore US ha e batle ho ea ntoeng le Korea Leboea, e ne e le polelo ea mohlala pele-pele ho ketelo ea Trump ho Asia, haholo Korea Boroa, moo Makorea a mangata a tšabang Donald Trump ho feta kamoo ba tšabang Kim Jong-un. Ha e le hantle, ho ntse ho rereloa boipelaetso bo boholo. Ho bile le sehopotso sa phetoho ea lebone la likulo bekeng e fetileng, mme mekhatlo ea sechaba ea 220 e phatlalalitse hore e tla tšoara boipelaetso bo matla ho tloha ka November 4th ka 7th naheng eohle, ba sa phatlalatse ntoa, ho se ikoetliso ea sesole, ho emisa brinksmanship ho hlakile hore e sokela boholo ba batho ba Korea Boroa le ba bangata ba ntseng ba na le malapa Korea Leboea. Kahoo, ke nahana hore, oa tseba, e ne e le mohato oa bohato bo potlakileng ba ho ts'oara batho ba Korea Boroa, hobane, ho hlakile hore, Trump o tla kena 'me a bue lipolelo tse qholotsang. Mme ke nahana hore eo e ne e le karolo ea mohato oa ho etsa joalo.

Seo re sa se utloeng hangata mecheng ea litaba, ke hore US e rometse likoloi tse tharo tsa lifofane tsa nyutlelie hore li emisoe Hloahloeng ea Korea. Ba ntse ba etsa boikoetliso ba ntoa bo kopaneng bo kopaneng le Korea Boroa, ho kenyeletsoa Navy SEALs tse nkile Osama bin Laden. Li kenyeletsa litloaelo tsa ho khaola. Kahoo, ua tseba, ke ntho e le 'ngoe ho re, "Ha re batle ntoa le Korea Leboea,"' me e 'ngoe e behe mabaka a seo. Hape ha se liketso tse susumetsang tsa sesole tse ntseng li tsoela pele, empa lits'oso. Ke bolela hore, re ntse re tsoela pele ho utloa litšokelo ho tsoa ho Kabinete eohle ea Trump. Mike Pompeo, the CIA Motsamaisi, o boletse setsing sa ts'ireletso sa Ts'ireletso bekeng e fetileng hore Kim Jong-un o ile a rera lipolao. HR McMaster e itse, oa tseba, ho amohela le ho thibela litšebeletso ha se khetho. Mme Tillerson o boletse hore, ua tseba, re tla bua ho fihlela bomo ea pele e oela. Kahoo, ua tseba, sena ha se hlile se memela Korea Leboea ho kenella lipuisanong, e leng se potlakileng se hlokahalang.

NTSANE SHAIKH: Joale, na u ka bua hanyane, Christine, mabapi le hore na Korea Leboea e ile ea arabela joang? U sa tsoa bolela hore Korea Boroa le US li ile tsa tšoara boikoetliso ba sesole haufinyane. Karabelo ea Korea Leboea e ile ea re'ng ka ikoetliso eo? Mme na ho na le lebaka la ho lumela hore Korea Leboea e ntse e bulehetse lipuisano? Hobane ha se taba ea hore re fihla mona mecheng ea litaba.

Christine AHN: Ehlile. Le ha ho le joalo, ke nahana hore ho bohlokoa ho hlokomela hore ha re so bone liteko tsa "missile" kapa liteko tsa nyutlelie hoo e ka bang matsatsing a 38 ho tloha lehlakoreng la Korea Leboea. Ha ke nahane hore seo se bolela hore ba ke ke ba tsoela pele. Ba hlakisitse hore ba tseleng ea ho fihlela nyutlelie — ua tseba, a ICBM e neng e ka kopanya ntoa ea nyutlelie, e ka otlang United States. Mme, ua tseba, likhakanyo tse ngata ke hore ho se ho fetile likhoeli ba sa etse seo.

Empa, ua tseba, ha ke tsebe haeba u sa hopola, kamora ho ba Trump, oa tseba, "ho senya North Korea" puo ho UN, mosebeletsi oa kantle ho naha oa Korea Leboea, Ri Yong-ho, o itse joalo, 'na nahana se neng se etsahetse e ne e le, bekeng eo ea mafelo-beke, lifofane tsa ntoa tsa F-15 tsa Amerika li ile tsa fofa lijete tsa ntoa tsa F-XNUMX tse fetang moeling oa moeli o ka leboea moeling oa maraka. Hoo ho fosahetse ka ho felletseng, le a tseba, tumellano ea hore moeli o ka leboea e ne e tla ba mola o ke keng oa tšeloa ho thibela mofuta oa li-skirmines. 'Me ka hona, ha re araba seo, Korea Leboea e itse, "Re tla otla le ho nka lifofane tsa US, leha li sa ba kahara lebopo la rona kapa kahare ho rona, le a tseba, sebaka sa naha."' Me ho joalo, ua tseba, Korea Leboea o hlakisitse hore ba tlo etsa liphapang.

Kahoo, kaha ha ho na liteishene, kannete, liteishene tsa semmuso-ho na le liteishene tse nyane tse ikemetseng tse ntseng li ts'oaroa, ua tseba, 1.5 e buisana lipakeng tsa liofisiri tsa mehleng tsa US le mmuso oa Korea Leboea. Ha ho hlile ha ho na lipuo tse buuoang. Mme ke nahana hore ke boemo bo kotsi boo re leng ho bona, ke hore, ua tseba, ha tlhahlobo e latelang ea North Korea e etsoa, ​​na US e tla ikemisetsa ho e hlasela? Mme a seo e tla bo e le tshimologo ya tlhatlogo e e kotsi thata?

Ebile, ua tseba, Ts'ebeletso ea Lipatlisiso ea DRM e sa tsoa fana ka tlaleho ka Labohlano. Ba boletse hore matsatsing a 'maloa a pele, batho ba 330,000 ba tla bolaoa hanghang. Mme ke feela ho sebelisa libetsa tse tloaelehileng. Mme hang ha o kenyelletsa libetsa tsa nyutlelie, ua tseba, ba hakanyetsa batho ba limilione tse 25. Ke bolela, u hakanyetsa palo ea batho joang, haholo tikolohong eo Japane, Korea Boroa, China, Russia, 'me u na le Korea Leboea ho hlakile hore e nang le libetsa tsa nyutlelie tsa 60?

AMY MOLEMO: Christine—

Christine AHN: Kahoo, ee?

AMY MOLEMO: Christine, re na le metsotsoana ea 20 feela, empa ho thoe'ng ka ngangisano ee ea hore na Mopresidente Trump o lokela ho etela Sebaka sa Demilitarised? Bohlokoa ba see?

Christine AHN: Ke nahana hore o ne a sa rera ho etela moo. Ke nahana hobane, ua tseba, tsamaiso ea hae e ts'oenyehile hore o tla etsa lipolelo tse ka qholotsang tse ka tsietsang Makorea a Amerika Leboea. Mme ka hona, hajoale ke nahana hore na ntho ea bohlokoa ke efeng hore ho be le morusu ka har'a naha ho la United States, boipelaetso bo boholo bo reriloeng ka la 11th, bakeng sa Letsatsi la Armistice, ke Veterans for Peace. Mme—

AMY MOLEMO: Re tla tlameha ho e tlohela mono, Christine Ahn, empa re tla e etsa karolo 2 mme o e romelle inthaneteng ho democracynow.org.