TEHRAN (Tlhompho) La 5 Mots'eanong 2019 - Sengoli se tummeng sa Moamerika, eo e leng mokhethoa oa Moputso oa Khotso oa Nobel ka makhetlo a mahlano, o ile a nyatsa mehato ea morao-rao ea "botlokotsebe" ke mmuso oa US ho eketsa likotlo tsa moruo ho Iran mme a re lefatše le lokela ho thibela lithibelo tsa Washington.
"Ho hlakile hore batho ba United States ba hloka ho batla hore ho felisoe kotlo e kopanetsoeng ea botlokotsebe le boitšoaro bo bobe ho sechaba sohle - ho utloisisa hore 'kotlo' mona ha e bolele molato," David Swanson, ea lulang Virginia, o boletse puisanong le eena. Setsi sa Litaba sa Tasnim.
"... Lichaba tsa lefats'e li hloka ho hana pefo ena ea US," o boletse joalo, a eketsa, "United Nations e hloka ho thibela likotlo le lintoa Iran, Venezuela le kae kapa kae."
David Swanson ke sengoli, moitseki, moqolotsi oa litaba, le moamoheli oa seea-le-moea. Ke motsamaisi ea ka sehloohong oa WorldBeyondWar.org le mohokahanyi oa lets'olo la RootsAction.org. Libuka tsa Swanson li kenyelletsa War Is A Lie le When the World Outlawed War. O ngolla ho DavidSwanson.org le WarIsACrime.org. O tsamaisa Talk Nation Radio. Ke Mokhethoa oa 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019 Nobel Peace Prize. Swanson e fuoe Khau ea Khotso ea 2018 ke US Peace Memorial Foundation.
Tasnim: Ka Labohlano, tsamaiso ea Mopresidente oa United States, Donald Trump, e ile ea nchafatsa likotlo tse hlano ho tse supileng tse lumellang Russia le linaha tsa Europe ho sebelisana le Iran empa tsa hlakola tse ling tse peli e le karolo ea letšolo la eona la khatello khahlanong le Tehran, ho latela Lefapha la Naha la United States. Washington e boetse e emisitse ho fana ka litheolelo tsa ho reka oli e tala ea Iran ka Labone. Pele US e falla, liofisiri tsa Iran, ho kenyeletsoa Letona la Litaba tsa Kantle ho Naha Mohammad Javad Zarif le Hlooho ea Basebetsi ba Sesole sa Iran, Major General Mohammad Hossein Baqeri, ba ne ba lemositse khahlanong le litlamorao tsa bona. Maikutlo a hau ke afe mabapi le tsoelo-pele, 'me u nahana joang ka karabelo e ka bang teng ea Iran mabapi le qeto ea US?
Swanson: Ho hlakile hore batho ba United States ba hloka ho batla pheletso ea kotlo e kopaneng ea botlokotsebe le boitšoaro bo bobe ho sechaba sohle - ho utloisisa hore "kotlo" mona ha e bolele molato.
Ho hlakile hore lichaba tsa lefats'e li hloka ho hana tlhaselo ena ea US. Empa ha e le hantle ha ho tsotellehe hore na ke mang ea chesang oli eo kapa hore na ke mang ea etsang phaello ho eona - leha ho le joalo e re bolaea kaofela ka ho senya boemo ba leholimo ba lefatše.
Kahoo, lefats'e le hloka ho fana ka Iran (le kae kapa kae) matla a hloekileng a tsitsitseng, le litefello, le litokelo tse lekanang.
Tasnim: Joalo ka ha u tseba, Zarif o sa tsoa le US. Lipuisanong tse ngata le litsi tsa mecha ea litaba tsa US le moqoqong le baqolotsi ba litaba New York bekeng e fetileng, o ile a fana ka nyeoe ea hore sehlopha se bitsoang "B-Team" se hlohlelletsa US ho loants'a Iran, eseng Trump. Sehlopha sa B ke sehlopha sa baeletsi le baetapele ba kantle ho naha bao mabitso a bona a nang le lengolo le tšoanang: Moeletsi oa Ts'ireletso ea Naha John Bolton, Tonakholo ea Isiraele Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu, moeta-pele oa 'muso oa Saudi Arabia Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS), le Khosana ea Moqhaka oa Abu Dhabi Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan (MBZ). Maikutlo a hau ke afe ka mantsoe a Zarif? U hlahloba molaetsa oa leeto la hae la ho ea US joang?
Swanson: E, batho ba chesehang ba futhumala ba sutumelletsa Trump bakeng sa ntoa. Empa o ile a khetha sehlopha sa hae sa li-warmners tsa US - tse mpe ka ho fetesisa tseo a ka li fumanang. ’Me ke eena ea ikarabellang bakeng sa seo ba se etsang kapa seo ba sa se etsang. United States e na le molaoli a le mong le tsamaiso ea ho jara motho eo boikarabelo e bitsoang impeachment. E boetse e na le Congress e nang le bokooa le bobolu e ke keng ea sebelisa tsamaiso eo - kapa e tla e sotha ka morero oa ho ntšetsa pele mashano ka Russia, e tla khutlela morao, kahoo qetellong, e sireletse Trump ho e-na le ho mo nka a ikarabella. Machaba a Kopaneng a hloka ho thibela likotlo le lintoa Iran, Venezuela le kae kapa kae.
Tasnim: Zarif haufinyane o itse o rera ho etela Korea Leboea haufinyane. U nahana'ng ka merero e ka bang teng ka mor'a leeto la hae, 'me u nahana hore e tla amahanngoa le leeto la hae la morao tjena la ho ea US?
Swanson: Ke nahana hore e lokela ho etsoa ka hloko haholo le ho nahanoa hantle, hobane ho tla hlokahala ntho e tsotehang ho loantša mashano a sa lebelloang a bana United States a tla phatlalatsa hore Iran le Korea Leboea li na le molato oa ho kopana le North Korea le Iran, ka ho latellana.
