NaMarc Eliot Stein, Mbudzi 30, 2022
Yechikamu chitsva che World BEYOND War podcast, ndakataura naJohn Reuwer, ari pamufananidzo ari pamusoro akagara pakati pasi pechifananidzo cheGandhi muKyiv, Ukraine nemurwiri werunyararo uye nhengo yebhodhi reWBW Yurii Sheliazhenko, nezverwendo rwake rwekuCentral Europe kwaakasangana nevapoteri uye akaedza kuronga vasina zvombo. varwiri vehondo kuhondo yanga ichipisa kubva muna Kukadzi wegore rino.
John aimbove chiremba wechimbichimbi akave nezviitiko zvakabudirira kuronga kusapindirana kwechisimba munzvimbo dzakapokana nguva pfupi yadarika muna 2019, paakashanda naye. Nonviolent Peaceforce muSouth Sudan. Akatanga kusvika muRomania kuzoshanda neve PATRIR sangano pamwe chete nevanoziva runyararo vakaita se Kai Brand-Jacobsen asi zvakashamisika kuwana chitendero chakapararira chokuti hondo yakawanda chete uye zvombo zvakawanda zvinogona kudzivirira maUkranians kubva pakurwiswa kweRussia. Takataura zvakadzama panguva iyi podcast kubvunzurudzwa nezve mamiriro evapoteri veUkranian munyika dzakavakidzana: mhuri dzakapfuma dzeUkranian dzinogona kugara zvakanaka mudzimba dzine hushamwari, asi vapoteri veruvara havabatwe zvakafanana, uye matambudziko anozobuda mumamiriro ese evapoteri.
John akawana tariro yakanakisa yekupikisa varwi vasina kuzvidzivirira nehondo mubato risiri rezvematongerwo enyika kuti kudzivirira njodzi yenyukireya yekunyungudika pamagetsi eZaporizhzhya, uye inokurudzira vanozvipira kupinda mubato iri. Isu tinotaura takatendeseka panguva ino podcast kubvunzurudzwa nezve kuomerwa kwekusarongeka kwechisimba mukati megomba rehondo yehondo. Isu tinotaurawo nezve maitiro eEurope ekudzoreredza, uye nezve musiyano wakaonekwa naJohn neEast Africa uko kunotyisa kwenguva refu kwehondo isingaperi kunoonekwa zvakanyanya. Heano mamwe mazwi akakosha kubva kuna John:
"Zviitiko zvekuvaka runyararo zvino zvinoita seyave nyaya yekuti ungachengeta sei nzanga yeUkraine yakashungurudzika yakabatana mukati mayo uye kudzivirira kusawirirana munharaunda yeUkranian. Ikoko kwakanga kusina kutaura kwakawanda pamusoro penzira yokuita nayo nhamo yose, yehondo kumativi ose ari maviri, kana kuti yokugumisa hondo.”
"Tinotarisa zvakanyanya kuti vanhu vakaipa ndivanaani uye hatina kukwana kuti dambudziko nderei ... chikonzero chikuru chehondo iyi ndipo pane mari."
"Musiyano unoshamisa pakati peUS uye kunyange Ukraine neSouth Sudan waive, muSouth Sudan, munhu wese akange asangana nekuderera kwehondo. Unenge wakatadza kusangana neSouth Sudanese yaisakwanisa kukuratidza ronda ravo rebara, mucherechedzo webanga, kana kukuudza nyaya yevavakidzani vavo vaimhanya vachitya sezvo musha wavo wakarwiswa nekupiswa, kana kusungwa kana kukuvadzwa nehondo. … havanamate hondo sechinhu chakanaka muSouth Sudan. Vakuru vanoita, asi hapana munhu pasi aifarira hondo ...
