Florida Gunman Nikolas Cruz Knew Kushandisa Gun, Tinotenda kuNRA uye neUnited States Army

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Ichi chi Dememocracy Zvino!, democracynow.org, Nhoroondo Yehondo uye Rugare, neChikamu 2 chekukurukura kwedu pamusoro JROTC uye kuuraya kukuru kuFlorida. Apo vhiki rapera yeFlorida chikoro chekupfura chaita kuti mhirizhonga yenyika pamusoro pepfuti uye simba rekutsvaga reNational Rifle Association, kunyanya kutarisirwa kwakabhadharwa kune chimwe chiitiko chekupfura. MuFlorida gunman, Nikolas Cruz ane makore 19, akanga ari nhengo yeHurry Junior Reserve Officer Training Corps. Akanga akapfeka wake JROTC shati paakaita kuurayiwa, mukuedza kuwirirana nevamwe vadzidzi. Cruz aivewo chikamu chemunhu mana JROTC teammanship team pachikoro chakanga chawana $ 10,000 mune mari kubva kune NRA.

Tinoenderera mberi nehurukuro yedu naPat Mukuru, mutungamiriri weNational Coalition Kudzivirira Chevadzidzi Chekudzidzira, boka rinosangana nehondo muchikoro. Ndiye munyori we Kuunganidza Masoja muUnited States.

Saka, kutanga kwezvose, Pat, titiudze sei JROTC inoshanda muzvikoro. Somuenzaniso, vangani vana pa Marjory Stoneham Douglas chikoro chaive JROTC? Chii chinowanikwa muUnited States?

PAT MUKOMA: Ndakaedza kuwana ruzivo rwakadaro kunze, Amy, asi ndinoziva kuti zvikoro zvose zvakabata-izvo zvine JROTC mapurogiramu anofanira kuva nehuwandu hwevadzidzi ve100. Uye kana vasingakwanisi kuchengeta vadzidzi ve100 kwemakore maviri mumutsara, ipapo chirongwa chinofanira kubviswa.

Iye zvino, izvo zvinounza pfungwa inofadza ine chokuita nemushandirapamwe wokurambidza wakatungamirirwa na JROTC Mutemo weCadet, iyo yakanga isingatauri kuhurumende yehurumende, kwete pamitemo yehurumende, asi panzvimbo yezvikoro zvakasiyana uye mapurisa ehurumende yezvidzidzo uye vedendendende. Semuenzaniso, kuFlorida, iyo ndiyo inofanirwa nehurumende yakawanda kwazvo maererano nehondo yezvikoro, Florida mitemo ikozvino inobvumira mudzidzi anotora makore mana JROTC kubatsiridza biology, sciences rekunyama, dzidzo yepanyama uye unyanzvi hwepurogiramu iyi yakananga-jacketed yeuto indoctrination program. Izvo zvachose zvinotyisa.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Mira. Dzokorora izvozvo.

PAT MUKOMA: Ndinogara ndichikumbira kuti ndidzoke zvakare. MuFlorida, chikamu chemurairo uyo mwana anotora makore mana a JROTC purogiramu haichafaniri kutora biology, sayenzi yepanyama, dzidzo yepanyama uye unyanzvi. Zvikwereti zvina izvi zvinoshandiswa-zvinogutsikana nokutora JROTC chirongwa.

Munoona, mushure mokunge No Child Left Behind Act, Amy, dzakawanda zvehurongwa hwechikoro munyika yose dzakava dzakaoma zvakanyanya kusvika kumarudzi ezvidzidzo uye nhamba yezvikwereti zvemaawa vadzidzi vaifanira kutora, uye izvo zvakasimudza JROTC purogiramu. Saka the JROTC purogiramu yakagadzirisa, mune dzimwe nzvimbo, kuti iwane nzvimbo yekudzidzira dzidzo yepanyama uye yehurumende yeAmerica uye hurumende. Florida inopfuurira mberi.

Uye inofanira kuonekwa panguva ino iri muFlorida vadzidzisi vose vashandi vanofanira kuva nedzigiri dzeBAF uye vanofanira kugutsa mitemo yakadzidziswa yevadzidzisi. Vanofanirwawo kuva nedzidzo dzemashoko mumakore mashomanana. The JROTC vadzidzisi veHondo havafaniri kuva nedhikorojiji. Ndeipi magungano? Ndeipi mavimbirano pane izvi?

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Vana vatatu vevana, vatatu vevadzidzi vekusekondari vakaurawa naCroz, vaiva, saiye, mukati JROTC. Ndinoda kudzokera kuna Jillian Davis, uyo akati aive JROTC pamwe neFlorida shooting gunman, Nikolas Cruz, mukirasi yepfumbamwe.

JILLIA DAVISI: Haisi yakanyanya kufanana kana isina mwana mukati JROTC. Zvechokwadi aive ne-nechinguva chiduku zvishoma pamusoro pake. Asi munhu wose ari purogiramu akanga ari zvishoma chete, asi akanga ari zvishoma zvishoma. Uye ini ndinongoyeuka zvisinganzwisisiki nezvekuti chii chakanga chiri cheirky. Asi zvaive zvakarurama, zvakanyanya kana zvishoma, kuti akanga ane hasha uye akanyarara uye ane nyanya nenguva-

BHAIBHERI: Ndazviwona.

JILLIA DAVISI: Paakava nehasha, yakanga isina kufanana naye. Hakanga asiri unhu hwake.

BHAIBHERI: Oo, chaizvoizvo? Almost like he had a-

JILLIA DAVISI: Unhu hwakasiyana.

BHAIBHERI: Ndazviwona.

JILLIA DAVISI: Nokuti akanga akanyarara kwazvo.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Hondo yakapa muMedal of Heroism kune matatu JROTC ma cadet akafira muParkland, Florida, kupfura: 15 ane makore ane makore ainzi Peter Wang uye vaviri vane 14 vane makore makumi maviri, Martin Duque naAnaina Petty. Wang akafanirwa afa apo akabata mukova wakazaruka kuti abatsire vamwe vaaidzidza navo kutiza. Pat Mukuru, kana iwe ukakwanisa kutaura pamusoro pevadzidzi vanobatana JROTC?

PAT MUKOMA: Zvakanaka. Ndinokutendai Amy. Zvakanaka, kutanga, inguva yakaipa, uye ndinosuruvara zvikuru neizvi. Ndakapa nguva yangu yakawanda muupenyu hwangu kuedza kubvisa pfuti kubva mumaoko evana ava. Zvino, zvinondiyeuchidza bhuku rakanyorwa naLieutenant Colonel David Grossman. Zvinodanwa Killology. Uye iye anonyora Paducah, Kentucky, kupfura muraibhurari yechikoro. Zviri pachena kuti paiva nevana vasere mumumhanyi wekunamatira, uye Michael Carneal akapinda mubhuku reraibhurari, uye akanga ane handgun ane mazere masere, uye akapfura mwana mumwe nomumwe mumusoro imwe nguva. Uye Grossman anotaura nezvazvo se "chishamiso chinoshamisa."

Uye ini ndinounza izvozvo nokuti-nokuti Hondo inoshandisa mitambo yemavhidhiyo-pane American Army vhidhiyo yemutambo-kuitira kuti vawane vana. Icho chimwe chemitambo yakakurumbira muAmerica nhasi, uye yakasunungurwa pasina. Iyi ndiyo mitambo yekutanga yevanhu shooter. Uye ndinotenda zvakadzama kuti ndiyo mutoja weHondo kuti uise minwe yakaipoteredza zvakasangana nezvimwe zvinokonzera, zvingave zviri chaiyo kana zvechokwadi, sezvinobvira. Saka, zvakare, isu tine zviuru zvemakore gumi nemana ezvikoro zvepamusoro muAmerica avo vanopiwa zvombo zvinouraya kupfura muzvikoro zvavo zvepamusoro. Uye kana vasina kuputira kuchikoro chesekondari, zvino vanopfura munzvimbo dzekutengesa zvekutengeserana dzomunharaunda dzakazara neguruva rinotungamirira uye izvo zvinoshandiswa neChivilian Marksmanship Program uye National Rifle Association. Icho chirongwa chinofanira kumira.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Saka, ndinoda kutaura pamusoro peizvi, uye tinokurukura izvi Part 1, ukama huri pakati NRA uye mapurogiramu aya emararamiro, ayo ari chikamu che JROTC, rudyi? Ndiri kureva, iwe une Nikolas Cruz, uyo aiva mumwe wevanhu vane nhengo ina yezvirongwa izvi. Mumwe wevamwe vadzidzi akataura kuti akanga akanaka chaizvo kupfura.

PAT MUKOMA: Pretty horrible. Zvakanaka, ndinofunga kuti kunyanya kunetseka kunofanira kupiwa mutongi weNRA pane zvose izvi, uye iyo ndiyo yeChivilian Marksmanship Program, kana kuti CMP. Zvino, the CMP iri muAnniston, Alabama. Kusiyana nedzimwe nyika dzakapoteredza nyika dzinochenjerera kuparadza zvombo zvavo zvehondo zvekare, basa reChivilian Marksmanship Rinodzorera zvakare kuvanhu veAmerica. Saka izvo Hondo inoshanda ndeye Hondo inopa, sezvipo, kuChivilian Marksmanship Program yakagadzirirwa pfuti uye pfuti zvino, uye izvo zvinotengeswa. Saka, chirongwa cheChivilian Marksmanship Program ine zvinhu zve $ 160 mamiriyoni. Inhengo yega. Uye yakarongwa neCongress kuti inotengesa zvakare zvakare zvakare kana zvombo zvehondo kuhurumende yeAmerica pamitengo yakaderedzwa.

Iyo sangano, iyo Civilian Marksmanship Program, inotungamirira hurongwa hwekupfura muzvikoro. Ndivo avo vanofanirwa kuisa mitemo ine chokuita nekuputika kwezvombo, kuchengetedzwa kwemitemo uye nenyaya yekutungamira. Chirongwa cheChivilian Marksmanship Program inoratidzira mutungamiri uye inotevera mushure me NRA pakutsanangura kuti izvozvo hazvikukuvadzei uye kuti hakuna chakaoma nekutungamirira pasi uye kutungamirira mumhepo.

Saka, ndiyo chirongwa cheChivilian Marksmanship Program iyo inotungamirirwa neNational Rifle Association. Uye kunyanya kutarisirwa kunofanira kubhadharwa paChivilian Marksmanship Program. Kana iwe uchienda kune izvozvo Website, iwe unogona kuenda kuchikwata chetracker, uye iwe unogona kutora kubva kuchikwata tracker zvose zve JROTC mapurogiramu ane mapurogiramu emashiripiti muUnited States.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Uye taura zvakawanda pamusoro pekutungamirira.

PAT MUKOMA: Zvakanaka, ndinovonga, Amy, nokuti ndizvo zvave zvandiri kufunga. Ndinonyatsofunga kuti nyaya iyi inofanira kunge iri kudikanwa. Zvakanaka, apo mumwe munhu anotora pfuti inotungamirira nepfuti, inoparadza zvose zvinotungamira nyaya yakatangira. Uye saka, iyo inotungamirira, izvi zvishoma zvishoma zvinoputirwa mumhepo. Uye, zvechokwadi, masangano epfungwa mukati mezvikoro zvepamusoro haasati agadzirirwa kutarisira mweya iwoyo. Uye saka zvinobva pane iyo nzira iyo ventilation system iri kurira. Mune zvimwe zviitiko, iri kuputira muzviso zvevana. Mutungamiri unowedzera pamusana wemupfu wepfuti, pasi, uye mutungamiri unowedzerawo pachinangwa chekudzokera shure.

Uye Chirongwa cheChivilian Marksmanship rakabudisa zvikuru, mirayiridzo yakaoma, iyo inonyanya kuregwa muzvikoro munyika yose. Chaizvoizvo, pane zvifananidzo, zvakabudiswa pamusoro pedu Website, kubva kuFlint, kuMichigan, iyo inoratidza vana vachifamba kubva kumutsara wokupfura kusvika kune chinangwa. Uye ini ndine mavhidhiyo akawanda, zvakare, anoratidza kuti, kubva kuYouTube-hazvitore zvakawanda kutora zvinhu izvi-zvinoratidza pachena vana vekusekondari vana vanotyora mitemo ine simba. Uye pavanenge vachifamba-famba muimba yekurovedza muviri kana kuti vachienda kune imwe nzvimbo yekutengesa, vanoisa-vanoona kutungamira pazvishongo zvavo, pamaoko avo, pamakumbo avo, pamapfeko avo, kuburikidza nezvose zvesimba. Uye isu tine zvidzidzo, nemapoka maviri echiSweden neGerman, anoratidza kuwirirana zvakajeka pakati pekupfura chete kutungamirira pellets uye yepamusoro ropa inotungamirira mazinga.

Zvichakadaro, chirongwa cheChivilian Marksmanship Program inotiudza kuti zvakanaka uye kuti zvose zvaunofanira kuita ndeyekuti vana havaiti panguva imwe chete uye vanogeza maoko avo. Panguva iyi, NIOSH inotiudza kuti kushambidza maoko ako hazvina kukwana kuitira kuti uchenese marara ekutungamirira. Purogiramu yeChivilian Marksmanship inotaurirawo zvikoro kushandisa trisodium phosphate kuitira kuti ivheneke gym uye pasi rekudya pashure pekudhonza. Izvi hazvisi kuitika. Uye inofanira kutaurwa, zvakare, izvo TSP inotapukanana uye inotyisa zvikuru kune zvakatipoteredza.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Uye kana iwe ukwanisa zvakare kutaura zvakare, Pat, uyo anopa mari CMP, Chirongwa cheChivilian Marksmanship Program? Uyezve, nezvose izvi-JROTC, CMP, kubatanidzwa kweNRA-iyo inodana shots, sekutaura, muchikoro?

PAT MUKOMA: Ndazviwana.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Mutungamiriri mukuru anobata basa ripi?

PAT MUKOMA: Zvakanaka, ndinokutendai mubvunzo iwoyo. Nhoroondo yeChivilian Marksmanship Program inonakidza chaizvo, Amy. Inoenda yose kudzokera ku1903. Kune ma memos anobudiswa neHondo pamberi penguva iyo iyo yaive-yakaratidza kuti Army yakanga inotyisa zvikuru, nokuti vaifunga kuti majaya eAmerica avo vakanga varwa muSpain American War vaizova varimi vanoita nani. Uye saka, Congress yakaraira kuumbwa kweChivilian Marksmanship Program kudzidzisa mazana ezviuru zvevana mukupfura zvombo, kuitira kuti, mune imwe hondo, vaAmerica vaizove vakarovedzwa kupfura. Pretty horrible.

Muna 1996, kune hurumende inopupurirwa naPaul Simon naFrank Lautenberg, mauto makuru maviri, akadana CMP a "boondoggle" uye "chipo kuna NRA"Ndiyo gore iro CMP yakanga isisiri ruoko rweCongress. Yakanga isisati iri hurukuro yevanhu, uye panzvimbo pacho ikava sangano rega. Uye zvakadaro, yakakwanisa kubhadhara $ 160 mamiriyoni muzvivimbiso zvebhizimisi zvakatengeswa nekutengesa zvombo zveArmed.

Iye zvino, kune chikamu chinotevera chemubvunzo wako, zvikoro zvakasiyana siyana zvinotungamirirwa nevakuru. Vakuru vezvidzidzo muzvikoro ndivo pakupedzisira ndivo vari kutarisira zvazvinoitika. Vane chishamiso-vane ruzivo rwekushamisa uye kushamisa kunoshamisa muzvikoro zvavo. Asi purogiramu pachayo inotungamirirwa nebazi rimwe rehondo. Saka, kana iwe une chirongwa cheMarine Corps, iwe une maBhaibheri mana akasiyana eWarine Corps, kune freshmen, sophomore, junior uye vakuru. Zvose zviri paIndaneti. Uye vana vanodzidziswa nhoroondo kubva kune Marine Corps maonero. Uye kune dzimwe nyika ikozvino inobvumira rudzi urwu rwekudzidza kuti iite panzvimbo yezvidzidzo zvidzidzo.

Saka, kuti upindure mubvunzo wako, kusvika pakutungamirira muzvikoro, Mutungamiri weChivilian Marksmanship anoronga. Mumwe murayiridzi wevarwi ndiye munhu anonyanya kutungamira, kunyange zvazvo mubvunzo, Amy: Tine chaizvoizvo kutora mauto ekutora kwezvikoro? Iwe unoziva, saka basa racho rakabatanidzwa. Asi zviri pamutemo, ndiye mutungamiriri uyo ari kutarisira zvikoro. Vanongoshambidza maoko avo.

Ndizvo zvakafanana nekuedzwa kwehondo. Tine vana 700,000 munyika yose muzvikoro zve14,000 zvinotora izvi ASVAB kuongororwa, uye mashoko ose anopiwa kuvaridzi vehondo-maawa mana ekuongororwa, nhamba dzehupfumi dzehupfumi-mukuputsa mitemo yehurumende nemitemo yehurumende, pamwe nehuwandu hwevanhu. Uye iri kuedza kwehondo kunopiwa. Uye kuti iite pfungwa yacho nokukurumidza sezvinobvira, vatungamiri vanobvumira ruzivo urwuno kuenda kumauto, kuputsa kodzero dzevamwe. Uye mauto anounganidza mashoko acho zvakananga kubva kuvana. Mamiriro eRondonland uye nyika yeNew Hampshire vane mitemo, uye mitemo iyoyo inotaura zvakananga kuti mauto haagoni kutora mashoko aya pasina kubvumirwa kwevabereki. Tine zvikoro zvinopfuura chiuru, Amy, izvo zvinoda vadzidzi kuti vatore mauto ekuongororwa kwechiuto, uye zvose zvese zvinopiwa kuna amai nababa-vakapa avo vanove vasina amai namababa vachiziva nezvazvo. Uye izvozvo zvinoputsa FERPA, iyo ndiyo Family Education Rights uye Privacy Act.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Saka, zvinogona sei kuenderera mberi, kana zvinoputsa mutemo weUnited States?

PAT MUKOMA: Chii chinogona kuitika kune icho chinoputsa mitemo yeUnited States? Hurumende inogona sei kuenderera mberi isina kuputsa mitemo yeUnited States? Izvo, zvakare, inoputsa mitemo yeUnited States. Ndinogona kukuudza, ndave ndichigunzva musoro wangu pamusoro pezvakawanda zvemakore e15 panyaya iyi.

Uye isu tanga tine hurumende mune zveMadlands uye muNew Hampshire. Uye iniwo ndinofanira kutaura nezveHawaii. Takaenda kuvakuru vekuchikoro, uye isu takaenda kuvakuru vehurumende, uye tikati, "Hei, mune mutemo munharaunda yako iyo inoti haugoni kumanikidzira mwana kuti asayine nhamba ye Social Security. Iwe haugoni kumanikidzira mwana kuti ape ruzivo rwemadzinza evanhu kana zvinyorwa zvevadzidzi, pasina kubvumirwa kwevabereki. Masoja anosvika munzvimbo yako yekudya uye anoedza vana ava. Iwe unofungei nezveizvi? "Uye vezvematongerwo enyika mumatunhu matatu aya vakabvumirana nesu uye vakapfuura mitemo. Tichiri kuine 47 states kuenda.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Ndaida kutendeukira kune zvinyorwa zveNikolas Cruz uye kuti anogona sei kupiwa pfuti kuchikoro, kunyange iwe usingabvumirwi kutora bhomba kuchikoro ichocho. Uchapupu huzhinji hwakawedzera huri kuratidza kuti Florida school gunman Nikolas Cruz akagovana netsika dzakafanana nevamwe varume vakawanda vakaita kuputika kwevanhu vakawanda: Akanga ane nhoroondo yekubata nechisimba nekutyisidzira vakadzi. Mumwe mudzidzi akaudzwa The New York Times kuti Cruz ainge achitambudza kune waimbova musikana. Mumwe mudzidzi akaudza The New York Times iye akanga ari shamwari dzepedyo naCroz asi akamugura iye mushure mokunge atanga kuenda uye achityisidzira shamwari yechikadzi yake. Uye The New York Times akadzokororawo mumwe munhu achiti akatevera mwana wechikoro chesekondari kusvika pakumunyengedza.

Iwe unoisa izvi pamwechete nemashoko okuti mumakore apfuura mapurisa akaenda kumba kwaVirz chimwe chinhu chakafanana ne39 nguva yekugadzirisa nyaya dzechisimba mumhuri nezvimwe nyaya. Iwe waive nemuvakidzani ari kuratidza vhidhiyo yeCroz yave pfuti museri kwake. Ndiri kureva, zvakajeka, chikoro-iwe une vana vose, saElma Gonzalez, uyo akave akazivikanwa zvikuru nokuda kwekutaura kwechishuvo kwekutonga kwepfuti, achiti, "Taiziva kubva shure." Uye iye akati, " tiudze kuti tinofanira kunge taudza vanhu. Takaudza vanhu nezveCroz. "Uye iye akati," Dai iwe waizoenda kubvunza, unoziva, ndiani mutungamiriri wechechi akanga ari, hatingashamisi, "akadaro.

Asi zvakadini neizvi, kana zvasvika kuna Nikolas Cruz kuva nhengo kwete kwete chete JROTC asiwo boka remasimusiki pachikoro, kudzidziswa kuva mutsvuku uri nani?

PAT MUKOMA: Rudyi. Zvakanaka, Amy, tinoda kusimudzira zvishoma kuti tiwane mifananidzo yakajeka yeUnited States Military Entrance Processing Command. Ndiyo hurumende yehurumende shure kwezvinonyangadza izvi. Iwe unofanirwa kuziva kuti 40 muzana yevashandi vose vatsva havapedzeri nguva yavo yekutanga. Ndinofanira kudzokorora zvakare: 40 muzana yevatori vatsva havazopedzi nguva yavo yekutanga. Uye kubva pakati pekubva ku2008 kusvika ku2014, taive ne 20,000 vanhu-20,000 masoja akaenda AWOL. Iwe unoziva, mauto haatombovatsvaki pasi. Uye pavanenge vachiita, mauto aya anogunun'una pachiuno. Ndizvo zviri nyore kuti zvive nyore kuenda kune dzakaputsika mumaguta uye kune zvikoro zvepamusoro muRust Belt uye unosungirirana nevana mukudya uye chill nevana vari munzvimbo yekupaka, kuedza kuvaita kuti vabatane. Uye saka, mhinduro yangu pano ndeyokuti tine zviuru nezviuru zvevana vanongororwa. Haisi simba rokuzvipira, Amy. Ndiyo simba rakabatanidzwa. Uye ndiyo nguva vanhu vanonzwisisa kuti zvinonyengera.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Iwe unogona kutaura pamusoro pekukosha kwehurumende yeFlorida uye kuti yakakurumbira sei muri rose JROTC purogiramu?

PAT MUKOMA: Ndinokwanisa. Ndinogona kukuudza kuti, sezvandakambotaura kare, kusvika pakudzidza, pane zvakakurumbira. Zvakaoma chaizvo, Amy, kuwana zvinyorwa pane JROTC purogiramu. Iye zvino, ndine, kwekupedzisira kwemakore 10, ndakakumbira FOIA ruzivo, uye rwakagamuchira, pakuedzwa kwechiuto. Hatina ruzivo urwu pane JROTC purogiramu. Saka, handina. Ndine-inofanira kunge yakakumbirwa, uye inotora nguva yakareba kutanga kutora mashoko iwayo.

Tine nhamba huru. Tinoziva kuti kune zvikoro zve 3,300 munyika yose, saka tinokwanisa kuwedzera izvi kuti tione kuti vangani varipo kuFlorida. Isu tine deta pamusoro peMhare, asi isu hatina dhenda pane mamwe matatu matatu. Asi Florida inonyanya kuyanana nehondo. Kuti ndikupe muenzaniso, tine zvikoro zvinomwe zvemaguta muguta reMiami, guta, uye vana vari mune zvikoro izvozvo vaifanira kugara muhondo yekuongororwa kwechiuto. Zvose zvezvikoro zvakanga zvine vanhu vashoma kupfuura 95 muzana. Ndicho chimwe chinhu pano. Kune rumwe rutivi rwemadzinza kune izvi, kuhondo yekuongorora maitiro ayo. Asi pane kuedza mapurogiramu. Ngatiti chikoro chinoda kubatsira vana kugadzirira SAT kana ACT miedzo. Hondo ine mhinduro yeiyo. Zvinonzi March 2 kubudirira. Hondo inotanga mapurogiramu ayo okuchera muFlorida nedzimwe nzvimbo nemakwikwi echivako cheGego, nekuda-kutanga muchechi yechitatu. Saka, kune, zvakare, mapurogiramu gumi nemazana ehondo, anoshanda munharaunda yese yeFlorida chikoro uye chikoro chose munyika yose.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Zvino, tsanangura tsananguro yemadzinza zvishoma, Pat.

PAT MUKOMA: Chokwadi. Zvakanaka, makore masere apfuura, ini ndakanyora-murairo mutemo muRwanda, uye ndakaenda kune NAACP mutungamiriri, Elbridge James. Uye Elbrige murume akanaka. Uye saka, akati, hongu-iwe unoziva, ndakamubvunza, "Iwe unogona kupupurira muMadganine pamusoro pekuedzwa kwehondo here?" Uye akati, "Zvakanaka, rega ndione dhesiyo imomo." Uye, munoziva, ndakamupa pepanheti ine zvikoro zve150 pairi, mazita ezvikoro. Uye akatarisa pamusoro pechiratidzo che30, Amy, uye akati, "Ndichapupurira." Ndakati, "Izvo zvakanga zvakakurumidza, Elbridge." Uye akatsanangura kuti haana kuona Walt Whitman muPotomac. Haana kuona Churchill muBhetesda. Haana kuona zvikomborero zvikoro zvitsvuku zvakamiririrwa pane iyo rondedzero. Uye zvechokwadi kwete. Iwe unoziva, vari kuenda kuna Brown. Vari kuenda kuCornell. Havasi kuenda kuHondo. Havasi kunyora. Kana vakapinda muHondo, vanoenda sevakuru vakuru. Saka, kune rumwe rutivi rwemadzinza ekuenzanisa kwemauto, sezvo pane-haisi kungova rudzi rwemarudzi, hongu. Icho chinhu chezvemari.

Saka, tinogona kuona zvakanyatsojeka, ne data yatinayo pakuongorora kwechiuto. Isu takangogamuchira zvinyorwa kubva muuto remavhiki apera. Mutungamiri weTurump akanga atokonzera tsoka dzake. Saka, tine data itsva, uye ini ndichine izvozvo pane webhusaiti yedu, StudentPrivacy.org, mukati memazuva mashoma. Zvinotaura chaizvo. Iwe unogona kukwevera iwe pachako huri uye ona nhamba dzevana vanoongororwa nemauto. Uye iwe unogona kushevedza mukuru wako uye kumubvunza kuti ndeyekuti anoti, pane database-vana havadi kutora chirwere-180 vana vanoitora. Uye iwe unogona kuvabvunza, "Munyika muno munozviwanira sei vana vane 180, ivo vakuru, kuenda kumabiko kuti vatore maawa mana ekuedzwa kwehondo?"

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Pat, wakawana sei kufarira izvi? Chii chawakabva?

PAT MUKOMA: Eya, pandakanga ndine makore 16, United States yakapinda muCambodia, uye ini ndakadzika kuWhite House, uye ndakakumbirwa kuti ndibve pakati pemberi kweLafayette Park, uye handina, uye ndakasungwa. Uye ndiko kutanga kwekushingairira kwangu. Ndakangotadza kugara ndakanyarara. Uye ndanga ndiri muratidziri kubva ipapo. Mukutanga, gosh, '01, ndakaronga kuratidzira muWashington pamwe neUnited for Peace uye Justice uye DC Anti-War Network, iyo yandakavamba. Uye, munoziva, ndakasvika padanho, munenge muna 2004, 2005, kuti tinogona - taigona kuisa vanhu zviuru mazana matatu kana mazana mana emumugwagwa, Amy. Izvo chaizvo zvine musoro zvinhu. Asi hazvina kuchinja marongero eBush.

Uye ndakasangana naRick Jahnkow. Ane Project YANO muSan Diego. Uye São Diego ndiyo yakanaka chaizvo muguta rehondo. Mukomana uyo neboka iro vakakwanisa kutora zvese zvepfuti kubva JROTC purogiramu muguta reSan Diego. Saka San Diego haina mapurogiramu ekumhanya. Icho chaicho chinhu chinobudirira. Project YANO iri sangano rinoshamisa, uye iri kuenda-kunzvimbo yekudzidza nezvenyaya iyi, uyewo NNOMY, iyo iyo National Network Kurwisa Militari yeChidiki, uye webhusaiti yangu, webhusaiti yedu, StudentPrivacy.org.

Saka, kwandiri, chakanga chiri chinhu chechigmatic. Ndakacherechedza kuti chero upi noupi hwehupenyu hwekuda, hwekunzwira tsitsi, hwekufungisisa, hunofanirwa kupinda kuburikidza nezvikoro, Amy. Inofanira. Uye saka tinoda kutarisa purogiramu yechitatu yegorosi inoshandiswa neuto, uye tinofanira kutarisa purogiramu yeVancouver Marines, iyo ine vana vaduku segiredhi yechitatu, uye isu tinofanira kurwisana nayo. Tinofanira kutarisana nayo. Tinofanira kubuda kunze, nokuti ichi chikamu chekuvandudza. Zvichatora chizvarwa chenguva.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Uye neTrump kuedza kukuru kwekuisa huwandu hwemari muuto rehondo-uye chimwe chinhu chatisati tamboona, sezvaanoedza kuwedzera bhajheti yezvehondo - izvi zvichabatsira sei mapurogiramu aunotaura pamusoro pezvikoro?

PAT MUKOMA: Zvakanaka, inotyisa, Amy. Pari zvino, ndinofunga kuti Mutemo wokuRitora unenge uri pamusoro pevarwi ve8,000 shoma. Haisi chinhu chaunoona CNN, unoziva. Haisi chinhu chaunosangana nazvo MSNBC. Ndi-ivo vane hanya yechinetso.

Uye, iwe unoziva, ndakashanda zvakazara nevana veSouth Soldiers muLondon, uye ndakashandawo nevanhu veGenvava pamusoro pezvakagadziriswa purogiramu yevana muhondo. Uye ivo vakatora ndima imwechete yandakanyora, uye vakaiisa mumhinduro yavo kuBraising administration, uye saka ikozvino chikamu chezvinyorwa zvevanhu vose. Sezviri pachena, vanhu muGeneva vainzwa kuti kuongorora kwehondo uye JROTC purogiramu yose inotyora iyi protocol. Vanopesana neprotocol nokuti Chikamu 3 chechirevo chekuita sarudzo yevana muhondo yakashongedzana inotaura kuti kubatira vana pasi pezera re 18 kunofanira kuitwa saizvozvo nemubhadharo wakakwana wemubereki. Hazvisi, muUnited States of America. Uye hurumende yeBritain, pasi peNobvumbi Clinton, yakati hakuna vana vanofanirwa kutora mauto ehondo uye kuti JROTC purogiramu haina kumanikidzira vana kana kuedza kubatira vana pasina kubvumirwa nevabereki.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: I $ 10,000 iwe unotenda yaenda kuchikoro chesekondari cheParkland yakanga iri mumhando yemichina?

PAT MUKOMA: Ichokwadi. Kazhinji, iwe uchave-zvikoro zvichitaurirana nazvo NRA, Uye NRA ine chirongwa chakasimba kwazvo chokupa zvipo kunze. Izvo zvakadai sezviziviso zvefodya zveJoe Cool Camel zvinotarisa vechidiki. Ndiyo imwe nzira yekutaura. Vanoziva kuti kana vakangotanga kuisa-kubatanidza vana nepfuti pazera remakore 13 muzvikoro zvepamusoro, iri kukunda-kukunda mazano kune avo uye kune vatengesi vezvombo. Uye saka, iwe unoziva, iwe unoona kuti iyo tsika inonyangadza, uye inoratidzika seyo, nokuda kwenguva pfupi, zvakadaro, kusvikira vanhu vakawanda vauya nepfungwa yokuti hondo dzinotanga kuchikoro chesekondari, hondo dzinotanga muchikoro chepamusoro , uko vanochengeti vanobvumirwa kurwisana ne13-vane makore.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Uye nyaya yemwana akafanana naNikolas Cruz, uyo akanyatsove ane nhoroondo yekushungurudzwa, kushungurudzwa uye kurwisana kune vamwe, kukwanisa kuwana pfuti uye kudzidza kudzidzira muchechi kuchikoro?

PAT MUKOMA: Zvakanaka, zvakaipa kupfuura izvozvo. Hondo yeUnited States yakaisa zvombo zvinouraya muruoko rwomwana paaiva muchechi yepfumbamwe, sezvinoita nezviuru zvevamwe munyika yose. Iye zvino, angave akange ari mhaka yakaipa, asi kune vakawanda vechidiki vasina kugadzikana vechidiki pa17 uye 18 vanogona kupinda muchiuto. Uye vabereki vanowanzoda kubvumira vana vavo kuti vabatane pa17. Gumi kubva muzana yevanhu vakanyorerwa muUnited States of America ndeye 17. Ndiyo misoro mu OECD, muEurope yose nenyika yakagadzirwa. Saka, itsika yakaipa.

Asi kudzokera kuNikolas Cruz, angadai akaita murwi wakanaka here? Zvichida. Zvichida kana akabatana, uye zvichida kana aive ari mumapoka uye akadzidziswa neMarines kana Army, angave akaita musungwa akakurumbira, mukufungidzira kwavo.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Iwe unoziva zvakananga pamusoro peko reNikolas Cruz uye kubata kwake JROTC uye CMP uye purogiramu yemararamiro pachikoro chesekondari cheParkland?

PAT MUKOMA: Kwete, handizvo. Iwe unoziva, handizivi chero chinhu chipi zvacho kupfuura chero munhu upi zvake, anongobva pane zvakasiyana-siyana, Amy. Ndinoziva rudzi.

Uye ini ndinogona kukuudza, zvakare, kuti ndakadanwa nemamazana mazana evana munyika yose. Nguva dzose maamai, Amy, kazhinji kazhinji madzitateguru. Uye ivo vachandiidza. Vanondiwana. Uye ivo vachati, "Mwana wangu ari kutamba imwe-on-one basketball nevanoshandira. Uye iye ane dyslexic, uye ari ADHD, uye ane chirwere chekuzvidya mwoyo. Izvi hazvigoni kuitika, Pat. Chii chatingaita pamusoro pazvo? "Uye ini ndikati," Zvakanaka, iwe unogona kutaura nemukuru wako. Iwe unogona kutaura nemwana wako. Asi kana kamwana wako 18 uye pavanopinda, hapana kana amai vanogona kuita pamusoro pazvo. "Uye saka, kazhinji ndinenge ndiine hurukuro idzi dzakawedzerwa, idzi idzi dzakapetwa neemail, nemazana emadzimai, chaizvoizvo, avo vanongotsamwa nokuti vanoona vana vavo kuenda kuhondo, vana vavanoziva hazvizoperi. Uye saka inodzokera kumashoko angu okutanga ekuti 40 muzana yevatori vatsva havaiti kuti ipedze gore ravo rokutanga.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Uye iyo US inofananidzwa sei mumhando iyi yehurongwa yevana, chirongwa ichi chehondo, kune dzimwe nyika?

PAT MUKOMA: Zvakanaka, ndinoreva, hapana-kune ruzivo rwangu, vanhu veEurope havabvumi vanoedza kupinda muchikoro. Iwe unoziva, vanozunungusa misoro yavo. Havagoni kuzvitenda. Vanotiona sevamwe rudzi rwemhuka yeWest West. Tiri. Saka, tiri voga pakati penyika dziri munyika. Uye ndinofunga kana iwe uchiona, zvakare, paCongress kushivirira kuti tinodzoka zvakare, kuti tinoshandisa rese zvombo zvombo zvehondo, kusanganisira M1911-M1911 yaiva ruoko rworutivi muVietnam. Icho chinonzi semiautomatic pistol. Uye saka, mutemo wehurumende yeUnited States ndeyekuti panzvimbo yekuparadza idzi-automatic semiautomatic pistols, zvingava zviri nani kuvatengesa pamitengo yakaderedzwa kuhurumende yeAmerica. Ndiyo basa reCongress neChivilian Marksmanship Program. Ndizvo zvandinopindura izvozvo.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Uye zvikoro zvakawanda zvakati kwete? Ndiri kureva, uye ndozodzokera shure munguva yeHondo yeVietnam, chiitiko chakakomberedza kukwikwidza ROTC kunze kwezvikoro. Uye izvozvo zvinoratidzika sei nhasi?

PAT MUKOMA: Zvinosuruvarisa. Ndiri kureva, pane chaizvo, zvishoma zvishomanana. Pane kunyanya kushorwa. Kakawanda, vana vanoita basa. Uye kune chikamu chikuru, vana vari muzvikoro zvepamusoro vakapfeka izvi JROTC junifomu inopiwa ruremekedzo rukuru nevamwe vadzidzi. Vanopfeka yunifomu yevarwi, uye vana vakagadziriswa kukwazisa uye kuvanoresa, nokuti, shure kwezvose, tinotsigira mauto edu, chaiko?

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Peter Wang, mudzidzi uyo anenge achiedza kubatsira vamwe vadzidzi, akanga akapfeka yunifomu yakazara paakarohwa pasi.

PAT MUKOMA: Ndinonzwisisa Hondo iri kumupa kukudzwa kwakakwana. Saka iyi ndeimwe muenzaniso wekutonga kwechidiki. Vachange vamuita sevarwi vese vakazara mukuvigwa kwake. Zvinotyisa. Ndine shungu. Aya ndiwo makwayana. Asi purogiramu inofanira kunge yakangomiswa pakarepo, uye kunyanya chirongwa chemavara.

AMY MURUME AKANAKA: Zvakanaka, Pat Mukuru, tinoda kukutendai nekuva nesu, mutungamiriri weNational Coalition Kudzivirira Rusununguko rwevadzidzi, sangano rinosangana nehondo muchikoro, munyori we Kuunganidza Masoja muUnited States. Tichabatanidza ku Piece kuti iwe wakangonyora, "JROTC, Kushandisa Indoctrination uye Kudzidziswa kweMisa Killers. "

Ichi chi Dememocracy Zvino! Ndini Amy Goodman. Tinotenda nekuda kwekubatana nesu. Kana uchida kuenda Part 1 yehurukuro yedu naPat Elder, unogona kuenda ku democracynow.org.