Wolemba Marc Eliot Stein, Novembala 30, 2022
Za gawo latsopano la World BEYOND War podcast, ndidalankhula ndi a John Reuwer, omwe ali pamwambapa atakhala pakatikati pa chifanizo cha Gandhi ku Kyiv, Ukraine ndi wolimbikitsa mtendere mderali komanso membala mnzake wa WBW Yurii Sheliazhenko, zaulendo wake waposachedwa wopita ku Central Europe komwe adakumana ndi othawa kwawo ndikuyesa kukonza zida popanda zida. anthu wamba kukana nkhondo yomwe yakhala ikuchitika kuyambira February chaka chino.
John ndi dotolo wakale wadzidzidzi yemwe adakhalapo ndi zokumana nazo zopambana pakukonza zosagwirizana ndi ziwawa m'malo omenyera nkhondo posachedwa monga mu 2019, pomwe adagwira nawo ntchito. Nonviolent Peaceforce ku South Sudan. Anafika koyamba ku Romania kukagwira ntchito ndi a PATRIR bungwe limodzi ndi odziwa kukhazikitsa mtendere monga Kai Brand-Jacobsen koma anadabwa kupeza chikhulupiriro chofala chakuti nkhondo yowonjezereka ndi zida zowonjezereka zingateteze anthu a ku Ukrani ku chiwonongeko cha Russia. Tidalankhula mozama pamafunso a podcast awa za momwe othawa kwawo aku Ukranian akumayiko oyandikana nawo: Mabanja opeza bwino aku Ukraniya amatha kukhala m'nyumba zochezeka, koma othawa kwawo amitundu samachitiridwa chimodzimodzi, ndipo mavuto amadzabwera nthawi zonse othawa kwawo.
John adapeza chiyembekezo chabwino kwambiri chokana zida za anthu wamba polimbana ndi nkhondo m'gulu losagwirizana ndi ndale pewani kusungunuka koopsa kwa nyukiliya pamalo opangira magetsi ku Zaporizhzhya, ndipo ikulimbikitsa anthu odzipereka kuti alowe nawo gululi. Timalankhula mosapita m'mbali panthawi yofunsa mafunso pa podcast iyi za zovuta zakusakonzekera mwankhanza mkati mwa nkhokwe yankhondo. Timalankhulanso za chikhalidwe cha ku Ulaya chofuna kubwezeretsanso nkhondo, komanso kusiyana kwa John ndi East Africa komwe zoopsa za nthawi yaitali za nkhondo zopanda malire zikuwonekera kwambiri. Nawa mawu ofunikira ochokera kwa John:
"Ntchito zolimbikitsa mtendere tsopano zikuoneka kuti zakhala nkhani yoti anthu a ku Ukraniya omwe ali okhumudwa azikhala ogwirizana mkati mwawokha komanso kupewa mikangano pakati pa anthu aku Ukraniya. Panalibe nkhani zambiri zokhudza mmene tingachitire ndi kupwetekedwa mtima konsekonse, za nkhondo za mbali zonse ziŵiri, kapena kuthetsa nkhondoyo.”
"Timayang'ana kwambiri kuti anthu oyipa ndi ndani komanso osakwanira pavutoli ... chifukwa chachikulu cha nkhondoyi ndi komwe kuli ndalama."
"Kusiyana kwakukulu pakati pa US ngakhale Ukraine ndi South Sudan kunali, ku South Sudan, aliyense adakumana ndi zovuta zankhondo. Simunathe kukumana ndi waku South Sudan yemwe sanathe kukuwonetsani bala lawo la zipolopolo, chikwanje chawo, kapena kukuuzani nkhani ya anansi awo akuthamanga mwamantha pamene mudzi wawo unawukiridwa ndikuwotchedwa, kapena kumangidwa kapena kuvulazidwa mwanjira ina. …sapembedza nkhondo ngati yabwino ku South Sudan. Anthu osankhika amatero, koma palibe amene ankakonda nkhondo ...