Ndi Demokalase Tsopano, Marichi 22, 2022
Yurii Sheliazhenko ndi membala wa Board World BEYOND War.
Mazana a ziwonetsero zosagwirizana ndi nkhondo adasonkhana mu mzinda wa Kherson ku Ukraine Lolemba kuti atsutse kulanda mzinda wa Russia komanso kukana kulowa usilikali mwakufuna kwawo. Asitikali aku Russia adagwiritsa ntchito mabomba owopsa komanso mfuti zamakina kuti abalalitse anthuwo. Pakadali pano, Purezidenti Biden akuyembekezeka kupita ku a NATO msonkhano sabata ino ku Brussels, kumene ogwirizana a Kumadzulo akukonzekera kukambirana za yankho ngati Russia itembenukira ku kugwiritsa ntchito zida za nyukiliya ndi zida zina zowonongeka. Mbali zonse ziwiri za nkhondo ziyenera kubwera palimodzi ndikuchepa, akutero wolimbikitsa mtendere ku Kyiv ku Ukraine Yurii Sheliazhenko. "Zomwe tikufunikira sikuti kukulitsa mikangano ndi zida zambiri, zilango zambiri, kudana kwambiri ndi Russia ndi China, koma m'malo mwake, tikufunika zokambirana zamtendere."
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AMY GOODMAN: izi ndi Demokarase Tsopano! Ndine Amy Goodman, ndi Juan González.
Timamaliza chiwonetsero chamasiku ano ku Kyiv, Ukraine, komwe talumikizidwa ndi Yurii Sheliazhenko. Iye ndi mlembi wamkulu wa Chiyukireniya Pacifist Movement komanso membala wa bungwe la European Bureau for Conscientious Objection. Yurii ndi membala wa board of directors ku World KUYAMBIRA Nkhondo ndi wothandizana nawo kafukufuku ku KROK Yunivesite ku Kyiv, Ukraine. Akutsatira mosamalitsa malipoti ochokera ku mzinda wakumwera kwa Ukraine ku Kherson, pomwe asitikali aku Russia adagwiritsa ntchito mabomba owopsa komanso kuwombera mfuti kuti abalalitse gulu la anthu omwe adasonkhana Lolemba kutsutsa kulanda dziko la Russia.
Yurii, talandiraninso Demokarase Tsopano! Mukadali ku Kyiv. Kodi mungalankhule za zomwe zikuchitika tsopano ndi zomwe mukuyitanira? Ndipo ndili ndi chidwi kwambiri, mwachitsanzo, pazomwe zimawoneka ngati kuyitanitsa komwe kuli kopanda ntchentche kotero kuti Russia isagonjetse mizinda, koma Kumadzulo kuli ndi nkhawa kwambiri kuti kukakamiza malo osawuluka, kutanthauza kuwombera. pansi ndege za Russia, zidzatsogolera ku nkhondo ya nyukiliya, ndi momwe mulili pa izi.
YURII SHELIAZHENKO: Zikomo, Amy, ndi moni kwa anthu onse okonda mtendere padziko lonse lapansi.
Zowona, malo osawuluka ndikuyankha kwankhondo kumavuto omwe alipo. Ndipo zomwe tikusowa sikukwera kwa mikangano ndi zida zambiri, zilango zambiri, kudana kwambiri ndi Russia ndi China, koma, m'malo mwake, timafunikira zokambirana zamtendere. Ndipo, mukudziwa, United States si mbali yosagwirizana ndi nkhondoyi. M'malo mwake, mkangano uwu ukupitirira Ukraine. Ili ndi njira ziwiri: mkangano pakati pa Kumadzulo ndi Kum'mawa ndi mkangano pakati pa Russia ndi Ukraine. Kukula kwa NATO anali m'mbuyomu kumenya mphamvu zachiwawa ku Kyiv ndi - mothandizidwa ndi mayiko akumadzulo, aku Ukraine ku 2014 komanso kugwidwa kwamphamvu ku Crimea ndi Donbas ndi omenyera ufulu waku Russia ndi asitikali aku Russia chaka chomwecho. Kotero, 2014, chinali, ndithudi, chaka choyambitsa mkangano wachiwawa uwu pakati - kuyambira pachiyambi, pakati pa boma ndi pakati pa olekanitsa. Ndiyeno, pambuyo pa nkhondo yaikulu, pambuyo pa mapeto a mgwirizano wamtendere, mgwirizano wa Minsk, womwe mbali zonse ziwiri sizikutsatiridwa, ndipo tikuwona malipoti a cholinga cha OSCE za kuphwanya malamulo oletsa kumenyana mbali zonse. Ndipo kuphwanya malamulo oletsa kumenyana kumeneku kunakula kwambiri Russia isanaukire, kuukira kosaloledwa kwa Russia ku Ukraine. Ndipo vuto lonse ndiloti yankho lamtendere panthaŵiyo, lovomerezedwa padziko lonse ndi United Nations Security Council, silinatsatire. Ndipo tsopano tikuwona kuti m'malo mwa Biden, Zelensky, Putin, Xi Jinping kukhala pagome limodzi lokambirana, kukambirana za momwe angasinthire dziko lapansi kukhala labwino, kuchotsa chiwopsezo chilichonse ndikukhazikitsa mgwirizano - m'malo mwake, tili ndi ndale zowopseza. United States kupita ku Russia, kuchokera ku United States kupita ku China, izi zomwe zikuwopseza anthu aku Ukraine kuti akhazikitse malowa osawuluka.
Ndipo mwa njira, ndi chidani chodabwitsa ku Russia ku Ukraine, ndipo chidani ichi chikufalikira padziko lonse lapansi, osati ku boma lolimbikitsana komanso kwa anthu aku Russia. Koma tikuwona kuti anthu a ku Russia, ambiri a iwo, akutsutsana ndi nkhondoyi. Ndipo, mukudziwa, ndikupereka msonkho - ndikuthokoza anthu onse olimba mtima omwe amakana nkhondo mopanda chiwawa komanso kutenthetsa, anthu omwe amatsutsa kulanda dziko la Russia mumzinda wa Kherson wa Kherson. Ndipo ankhondo, oukira, anawawombera iwo. Ndi zamanyazi.
Mukudziwa, pali anthu ambiri omwe akutsatira moyo wopanda chiwawa ku Ukraine. Anthu okana kulowa usilikali m’dziko lathu amene ankagwira ntchito zina m’malo moukira boma la Russia asanaukire anali 1,659. Nambala iyi ikuchokera lipoti la pachaka la 2021 za kukana kulowa usilikali chifukwa cha zimene amakhulupirira, lofalitsidwa ndi bungwe la European Bureau for Conscientious Objection. Lipotilo linanena kuti ku Ulaya kunalibe malo otetezeka m’chaka cha 2021 kwa anthu ambiri okana usilikali chifukwa cha zimene amakhulupirira m’mayiko angapo, ku Ukraine, ku Russia, ndiponso ku Crimea ndi Donbas komwe kunkalamulidwa ndi Russia; ku Turkey, kumpoto kwa Cyprus komwe kunkalamulidwa ndi Turkey; ku Azerbaijan; Armenia; Belarus; ndi mayiko ena. Anthu okana kulowa usilikali chifukwa cha zimene amakhulupirira ankatsutsidwa, kumangidwa, kuzengedwa mlandu ndi makhoti a asilikali, kuwatsekera m’ndende, kuwalipiritsa chindapusa, kuwaopseza, kuwaukira, kuwaopseza kuti aphedwa komanso kuwasala. Ku Ukraine, kudzudzula gulu lankhondo ndi kumenyera ufulu wokana kulowa usilikali chifukwa cha chikumbumtima kumawonedwa ngati kuukira boma komanso kulangidwa. Anthu zikwizikwi anamangidwa ndi kulipitsidwa chindapusa pamisonkhano yoletsa nkhondo ku Russia.
Ndikufuna kunena mawu a Movement of Conscientious Objectors to Military Service ku Russia kuchokera mu izi. Mtengo wa EBCO lipoti lapachaka: mawu akuti, "Zomwe zikuchitika ku Ukraine ndi nkhondo yomwe Russia idayambitsa. Gulu la Conscientious Objectors Movement limatsutsa zachiwawa zankhondo zaku Russia. Ndipo akupempha Russia kuti asiye nkhondo. Gulu la Conscientious Objectors Movement likupempha asitikali aku Russia kuti asachite nawo nkhondo. Musakhale zigawenga zankhondo. Bungwe la Conscientious Objectors Movement likupempha anthu onse olembedwa kuti akane kulowa usilikali: apemphe ntchito zina zosakhudzana ndi usilikali, kapena kuti asaloledwe chifukwa chachipatala,” kumapeto kwa mawuwo. Ndipo, zowonadi, Chiyukireniya Pacifist Movement imatsutsanso kuyankha kwankhondo ku Ukraine komanso kuyimilira kwa zokambirana, zomwe tikuziwona tsopano ndi chifukwa chofuna kuthana ndi nkhondo.
JUAN GONZALEZ: Yurii, ndangofuna kukufunsani, chifukwa tatsala ndi mphindi zochepa chabe - mumalankhula za kukhudzidwa kwachindunji kwa US ndi NATO kale. Pakhala pali malipoti ochepa kwambiri, osati pa nkhani ya zida zomwe zimaperekedwa ndi Kumadzulo ku Ukraine, komanso, momveka bwino, ndi deta yeniyeni ya satellite yomwe asilikali a ku Ukraine akulandira kuchokera Kumadzulo. Ndipo ndikulingalira kwanga ndikuti, zaka kuchokera pano, tiphunzira kuti kuwukira kwa drone pa asitikali aku Russia kumayendetsedwa kutali ndi mabwalo aku America m'malo ngati Nevada, kapenanso kuti pali kale kuchuluka kwankhondo. CIA ndi asilikali apadera ntchito mkati Ukraine. Monga mukunenera, pali okonda dziko kumbali zonse, ku Russia, ku US ndi ku Ukraine, omwe ayambitsa vutoli pakali pano. Ndikudabwa momwe mukukanira pakati pa anthu aku Ukraine kunkhondoyi. Kodi wakula bwanji?
YURII SHELIAZHENKO: Mukudziwa, kukwera uku kudachitika chifukwa chakukankhira kochokera kwa makontrakitala ankhondo awa. Tikudziwa kuti Mlembi Wachitetezo waku America Lloyd Austin alumikizidwa ndi Raytheon. Iye anali pa gulu la otsogolera. Ndipo tikudziwa kuti masheya a Raytheon ali ndi kukula kwa 6% pa New York Stock Exchange. Ndipo amapereka mizinga ya Stinger ku Ukraine, omwe amapanga mizinga ya Javelin, [yosamveka], ikukula ndi 38%. Ndipo, ndithudi, tili ndi Lockheed Martin uyu. Amapereka ndege zankhondo za F-35. Iwo ali ndi kukula kwa 14%. Ndipo amapindula ndi nkhondo, ndipo amakankhira nkhondo, ndipo amayembekeza kupeza phindu lochulukirapo kuchokera ku kukhetsa mwazi, kuchokera ku chiwonongeko, ndipo mwanjira ina sizikukwera chifukwa cha kukula kwa nkhondo ya nyukiliya.
Ndipo anthu azikankhira ku boma kukambilana mmalo molimbana. Pali zochitika zambiri zotsutsana ndi kutenthetsa kutentha zomwe zikuchitika ku United States ndi ku Ulaya. Mutha kupeza chilengezo pa ChimwemweChiphamaso Tsambali pansi pa chikwangwani, "Russia Kuchokera ku Ukraine. NATO Kupanda Kukhalapo.” CodePink ikupitilizabe kupempha Purezidenti Biden ndi United States Congress kuti akambirane m'malo mokwera. Komanso, kudzakhala kulimbikitsa padziko lonse lapansi, "Stop Lockheed Martin," pa Epulo 28. Coalition No to NATO adalengeza kuti akuguba mu June 2022 chifukwa cha izi komanso zotsutsana ndi NATO msonkhano ku Madrid. Ku Italy, a Movimento Nonviolento anayambitsa kampeni yokana kulowa usilikali chifukwa cha zimene amakhulupirira mogwirizana ndi anthu okana kulowa usilikali chifukwa cha zimene amakhulupirira, ozemba kulowa usilikali, anthu a ku Russia ndi ku Ukraine. Ku Ulaya, European for Peace kampeni inati anthu a ku Ulaya omwe sali achiwawa apereka chigamulo kwa Putin ndi Zelensky: Imitsani nkhondo nthawi yomweyo, kapena anthu adzakonza magulu a anthu osachita zachiwawa ochokera ku Ulaya konse, pogwiritsa ntchito njira zonse zomwe zingatheke kuti apite kumalo omenyana popanda zida kuti achitepo kanthu. monga alonda amtendere pakati pa omenyanawo. Ponena za ziwonetsero ku Ukraine, mwachitsanzo, tili ndi zochititsa manyazi izi -
AMY GOODMAN: Yurii, tili ndi masekondi asanu.
YURII SHELIAZHENKO: Inde, ndikufuna kunena kuti a pempho mutu wakuti “Lolani amuna azaka zoyambira 18 mpaka 60 osadziŵa usilikali kuti achoke ku Ukraine,” pa OpenPetition.eu, anasonkhanitsa anthu 59,000 osayina.
AMY GOODMAN: Yurii, tikuyenera kusiya kumeneko, koma ndikukuthokozani kwambiri chifukwa chokhala nafe. Yurii Sheliazhenko, mlembi wamkulu wa Ukraine Pacifist Movement.
