By Tus phooj ywg, Lub Xya hli ntuj 14, 2025
Yurii Sheliazhenko hais lus rau Matthew Syed ntawm BBC rau xov tooj cua 4 Sideways program.
Ib tug Quaker hauv Ukraine tau hais rau BBC txog nws cov teeb meem hauv kev tsis kam koom nrog lub teb chaws cov tub rog.
Yurii Sheliazhenko, ntawm lub rooj sib tham tshiab ntawm Cov Phooj Ywg hauv Ukraine, nyob hauv Kyiv. Nws hais lus rau Matthew Syed ntawm BBC rau Xov Tooj Cua 4 Sideways txoj haujlwm, rau qhov mini-series hu ua 'Chasing Peace'.
Yurii, plaub caug-peb, loj hlob nyob rau thaum xaus ntawm tsov rog txias. Tom qab lub cev qhuav dej ntawm lub Soviet Union 'zoo li tsis ncaj ncees lawm rau kuv tias peb tseem muaj ib pab tub rog, thiab tseem npaj ua tsov ua rog'. Nws tau txiav txim siab hauv 2019 tias nws yuav yog ib tus neeg tsis pom zoo (CO).
Nws hais rau Matthew Syed - uas nws yawg yog ib tug ntawm 60,000 tus neeg tawm tsam tsis txaus ntseeg hauv kev ua tsov rog ntiaj teb thib ob - tias nws tau 'ib txwm ua npau suav txog kev thaj yeeb nyab xeeb'. Nws txoj kev ntseeg Quaker, uas tau 'kev tawm tsam tsis sib haum xeeb rau ntau pua xyoo', ua rau nws ntseeg tias 'yog tias koj tua ib tug neeg, koj tua Vajtswv hauv lawv'.
Tom qab kev tsov rog pib, nws hais tias, 'Peb tus neeg nrhiav neeg tuaj rau kuv lub tsev thiab sim hu xov tooj rau kuv. Kuv tsis kam coj nws. Lawv tsoo kuv lub thawv xa ntawv los ntxig rau nws. Tom qab ntawd kuv tau hlawv kuv daim ntawv sau cia, nyob rau Hnub International ntawm Kev Pom Zoo Objectors.'
Nws tau sau ib tsab ntawv hu rau kev thaj yeeb nyab xeeb, rau txim rau kev ua phem Lavxias tab sis hu rau kev daws teeb meem kev thaj yeeb, hais txog UN-pom zoo txoj cai tsis kam tua. Nws xa nws mus rau tus thawj tswj hwm, Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
Nws cov ntaub ntawv tau raug txhais tias yog kev hem thawj rau kev ruaj ntseg hauv tebchaws, thiab, ib xyoos ua tsov rog, cov tub ceev xwm tau txeeb nws lub tsev. Raws li qhia hauv tus phooj ywg xyoo tas los, nws raug foob nrog 'kev ua txhaum cai ntawm Lavxias teb sab kev ua phem', thiab muab tso rau hauv ib feem ntawm tsev kaw neeg.
Txoj cai rau kev txiav txim siab tsis pom zoo rau kev ua tub rog yog kev cai lij choj lav hauv Ukraine, tab sis nws daim ntawv thov raug txwv thaum lub sijhawm ua tsov rog. Qhov kev xaiv ntawm lwm txoj kev pabcuam tau dhau los ua tsis muaj tomqab tau tshaj tawm txoj cai lij choj nyob rau xyoo 2022. War Resisters 'International hais tias ntau pua tus neeg tseem tab tom tos tiv thaiv COs, nrog rau qhov siab tshaj plaws ntawm peb mus rau tsib xyoos.
Yurii qhia Matthew Syed ntawm nws 'kev paub tam sim' tias kev xaiv kev thaj yeeb tau ua rau nws ua yeeb ncuab. Qhov no yog qhov tseeb 'tu siab heev', tab sis 'koj yuav tsum nyob twj ywm rau koj qhov kev thaj yeeb nyab xeeb… Kuv yuav tsis pub leej twg yuam kuv tua'.
Syed lees txim tias txoj hauv kev no 'yuav nyuaj rau koj lub taub hau ncig' tab sis lees paub, los ntawm nws tus yawm txiv, tias nws tsis yog qhov tshwm sim ntawm kev ua siab phem. Hauv ntu nws kuj tham nrog: Rachel Julian, tus xibfwb ntawm Kev Thaj Yeeb Kev Kawm ntawm Leeds Beckett University; Wasim Almasri, tus thawj coj ntawm cov haujlwm ntawm Alliance for Middle East Peace; thiab Lisa Schirch, tus xibfwb ntawm Kev Xyaum Kev Siv Tshuab thiab Kev Thaj Yeeb ntawm University of Notre Dame.
Qhov kev zov me nyuam yuav tawm hauv xov tooj cua 4 thaum Lub Xya Hli 30. Nws muaj tam sim no ntawm https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m002g7b9.
