Kev tsis sib haum xeeb txuas ntxiv mus ntxiv ntawm Tebchaws Meskas thiab North Kauslim, tom qab Asmeskas Tus Thawj Fwm Tsav Saib Xyuas Kev Tiv Thaiv James Mattis lub limtiam mus ntsib Asia thiab ua ntej Trump mus ntsib 12-hnub tom qab lub lim tiam no. Mattis tau hais meej txog kev daws teeb meem kev nom kev tswv rau kev tsis sib haum xeeb ntawm ob lub tebchaws, tab sis ceeb toom tias Asmeskas yuav tsis lees txais nuclear North Kauslim. Congressional Democrats tab tom thawb txoj cai lij choj uas yuav tiv thaiv Thawj Tswj Hwm Trump los ntawm kev tawm tsam ua ntej tawm tsam North Kauslim. Peb tham nrog Christine Ahn, tus tsim thiab tus thawj coj ntawm Women Cross DMZ, lub ntiaj teb kev txav ntawm cov poj niam mobilizing kom xaus Tsov Rog Kauslim.
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AMY GOODMAN: Qhov no yog Kev ywj pheej tam sim no!, Democracynow.org, Kev Tsov Rog thiab Kev Tshaj Tawm Qhia. Kuv yog Amy Goodman, nrog Nermeen Shaikh.
NERMEEN SHAIKH: Tam sim no peb tig mus rau North Kauslim, qhov chaw tensions txuas ntxiv nrog rau Tebchaws Meskas. Thaum lub sijhawm mus ntsib Asia ntev ib asthiv, Tus Thawj Fwm Tsav Saib Xyuas Kev Tiv Thaiv James Mattis tau hais txog kev daws teebmeem kev nom kev tswv rau kev tsis sib haum xeeb ntawm ob lub tebchaws, tab sis ceeb toom tias Asmeskas yuav tsis lees txais lub tebchaws Kaus Lim Qab Teb. Nov yog Mattis hais lus rau hnub Saturday thaum lub rooj sib tham nrog nws tus neeg Kaus Lim Qab Teb, Song Young-moo, hauv Seoul.
TXHAIS LUS TSWV YIM YAM MATTIS: Tsis txhob yuam kev: Ib qho kev tawm tsam rau Tebchaws Meskas lossis peb cov phoojywg yuav swb. Ib qho kev siv riam phom nuclear los ntawm North yuav tau ntsib nrog cov lus teb ua tub rog loj, ua tau zoo thiab dhau mus. … Kuv tsis tuaj yeem xav txog qhov xwm txheej uas Tebchaws Meskas yuav lees txais North Kauslim ua lub zog nuclear.
NERMEEN SHAIKH: Mattis tuaj txog hauv Kaus Lim Qab Teb Hnub Friday rau kev mus ncig ob hnub rau lub tebchaws, ua ntej kev mus ntsib tom qab lub lim tiam no mus rau thaj av los ntawm Donald Trump. Trump tau teem sijhawm mus ntsib Tuam Tshoj, Nyab Laj, Nyiv, Philippines thiab Kaus Lim Qab Teb hla kev mus ntsib 12-hnub. Cov neeg ua haujlwm hauv Tsev Dawb tau faib tawm seb Trump puas yuav tsum mus xyuas thaj tsam Demilitarized ntawm North thiab South thaum mus ncig, nrog kev txhawj xeeb tias kev mus ntsib tuaj yeem ua rau muaj kev hem thawj ntawm kev ua tsov rog nuclear ntxiv.
AMY GOODMAN: Kev tsis sib haum xeeb ntawm North Kauslim thiab Tebchaws Meskas tau tsim kho tom qab muaj kev sim tshuaj nuclear thiab foob pob ua ntxaij los ntawm Pyongyang thiab kev sib tham sib tham sib sib zog nqus ntawm Trump thiab North Kauslim tus thawj coj Kim Jong-un. Trump tau hem tias yuav rhuav tshem tag nrho North Kauslim, ib lub tebchaws ntawm 25 lab tus tib neeg. Trump tweeted lub hli tas los, "Tsuas hnov Tus Thawj Fwm Tsav Tebchaws ntawm North Kauslim hais lus ntawm UN Yog tias nws tau hnov txog kev xav ntawm Little Rocket Man, lawv yuav tsis nyob ntev dua!" Trump's tweet tuaj raws li North Kauslim Txawv Teb Chaws Minister Ri Yong-ho tau hais tias Trump tab tom ua "lub luag haujlwm tua tus kheej." Congressional Democrats tab tom thawb txoj cai lij choj uas yuav tiv thaiv Thawj Tswj Hwm Trump los ntawm kev tawm tsam ua ntej tawm tsam North Kauslim.
Zoo, ntau ntxiv, peb tau koom nrog Christine Ahn, tus tsim thiab tus thawj coj ntawm Women Cross DMZ, lub ntiaj teb kev txav ntawm cov poj niam mobilizing kom xaus Tsov Rog Kauslim. Nws hais lus rau peb los ntawm Hawaii.
Christine, ua tsaug rau kev koom nrog peb ib zaug ntxiv Kev ywj pheej tam sim no! Koj puas tuaj yeem tham txog qhov xaus ntawm qhov kev mus ntsib no los ntawm Mattis thiab qhov nce ntxiv, ib zaug ntxiv, ntawm US-North Kauslim tensions thiab peb tuaj yeem xav li cas thaum Thawj Tswj Hwm Trump mus rau thaj tsam ob peb hnub?
Christine AHN: Nyob zoo sawv ntxov, Amy.
Nws zoo nkaus li Mattis cov lus, tshwj xeeb tshaj yog nyob rau DMZ, hais tias Asmeskas tsis xav mus ua rog nrog North Kauslim, yog hom lus tshaj tawm ua ntej - ua ntej Trump mus ntsib Asia, tshwj xeeb tshaj yog rau Kaus Lim Qab Teb, qhov twg Kaus Lim Qab Teb ntau ntshai Donald Trump dua li lawv ua Kim Jong-un. Thiab, qhov tseeb, kev tawm tsam loj tau npaj. Muaj hnub tseem ceeb ntawm lub teeb tswm ciab kiv puag ncig lub asthiv dhau los no, thiab tshaj li 220 lub koom haum pej xeem tau tshaj tawm tias lawv yuav muaj kev tawm tsam loj txij lub Kaum Ib Hlis 4 txog rau 7th thoob plaws lub tebchaws, tshaj tawm tsis muaj tsov rog, tsis muaj kev ua tub rog ntxiv, txwv tsis pub muaj kev ua phem, uas. pom tseeb hem cov neeg feem coob hauv Kaus Lim Qab Teb thiab tseem muaj ntau tus uas tseem muaj tsev neeg nyob hauv North Kauslim. Yog li, kuv xav tias, koj paub, nws yog ib yam ntawm cov kauj ruam tseem ceeb los txhawb cov neeg Kaus Lim Qab Teb, vim tias, pom tseeb, Trump yuav los rau hauv thiab ua qee cov lus tawm tsam. Thiab kuv xav tias yog ib feem ntawm cov kauj ruam ua qhov ntawd.
Qhov peb tsis tshua hnov txog hauv xov xwm, txawm li cas los xij, yog tias Asmeskas tau xa peb lub dav hlau nuclear thauj mus rau chaw nres nkoj ntawm Kaus Lim Qab Teb Peninsula. Lawv tau ua kev tawm tsam kev sib ntaus sib tua nrog Kaus Lim Qab Teb, suav nrog Navy SEALs uas tau tawm Osama bin Laden. Lawv suav nrog kev tawm tsam decapitation. Thiab yog li, koj paub, nws yog ib qho uas yuav hais tias, "Peb tsis xav ua tsov rog nrog North Kauslim," thiab lwm qhov yuav tsum tau tso lub hauv paus rau qhov ntawd. Thiab nws tsis yog tsuas yog kev ua tub rog provocative uas tab tom ua, tab sis kev hem. Kuv txhais tau tias, peb tseem hnov txog kev hem los ntawm thoob plaws Trump Txiaj Ntsig. Mike Pompeo, tus CIA tus thawj coj, tau hais nyob rau ntawm Lub Rooj Sib Tham Tiv Thaiv Lub Tsev Haujlwm lub lim tiam dhau los no tias kev tua neeg raug tsim txom rau Kim Jong-un. HR McMaster tau hais tias, koj paub, kev lees paub thiab kev cuam tshuam tsis yog ib qho kev xaiv. Thiab Tillerson tau hais tias, koj paub, peb yuav tham txog kom txog thaum thawj lub foob pob poob. Yog li, koj paub, qhov no tsis yog tiag tiag caw North Kauslim los koom nrog kev sib tham, uas yog qhov xav tau sai sai.
NERMEEN SHAIKH: Zoo, koj puas tuaj yeem hais me ntsis, Christine, hais txog North Kauslim teb li cas? Koj nyuam qhuav hais tias Kaus Lim Qab Teb thiab Asmeskas tau ua kev ua tub rog tsis ntev los no. North Kauslim teb li cas rau cov kev tawm dag zog no? Thiab puas muaj laj thawj ntseeg tias North Kauslim tseem qhib rau kev sib tham? Vim qhov ntawd tsis yog lub ntsiab lus uas peb tau txais ntawm no hauv xov xwm.
Christine AHN: kiag li. Zoo, kuv xav tias nws yog ib qho tseem ceeb uas yuav tsum nco ntsoov tias peb tsis tau pom ib qho kev sim missile lossis kev sim nuclear nyob rau hauv yuav luag 38 hnub los ntawm North Kauslim. Kuv tsis xav tias qhov ntawd txhais tau tias lawv yuav tsis mus ntxiv. Lawv tau ua kom pom tseeb tias lawv tau nyob hauv txoj hauv kev kom ua tiav lub nuclear - koj paub, ib qho ICBM uas tuaj yeem txuas lub taub hau nuclear, uas tuaj yeem tawm tsam Tebchaws Meskas. Thiab, koj paub, ntau qhov kev kwv yees yog tias lawv nyob ib hlis deb ntawm kev ua qhov ntawd.
Tab sis, koj paub, kuv tsis paub yog tias koj nco qab, tom qab Trump's, koj paub, "ua rau North Kauslim tag nrho" hais lus ntawm UN, North Kauslim tus thawj coj txawv tebchaws, Ri Yong-ho, tau hais tias, koj paub-thiab kuv kwv yees dab tsi tau tshwm sim yog, nyob rau lub asthiv ntawd, Asmeskas tau ya dav hlau F-15 dav hlau hla txoj kab kev txwv sab qaum teb ntawm ciam teb hiav txwv. Qhov ntawd yog ua txhaum tag nrho, koj paub, kev pom zoo tias kab qaum teb yuav yog txoj kab uas yuav tsis raug hla los tiv thaiv txhua yam kev sib tsoo. Thiab yog li ntawd, teb rau qhov ntawd, North Kauslim tau hais tias, "Peb yuav tawm tsam thiab tshem tawm cov dav hlau Asmeskas, txawm tias lawv tsis nyob hauv peb lub orbit lossis hauv peb, koj paub, thaj chaw." Thiab yog li ntawd, koj paub, North Kauslim tau qhia meej tias lawv yuav tawm tsam.
Thiab yog li ntawd, vim hais tias tsis muaj cov channel, tiag tiag, cov channel tseem ceeb - muaj qee qhov kev ntiag tug me me uas tau tuav, koj paub, 1.5 kev sib tham ntawm yav dhau los US cov tub ceev xwm nrog tsoomfwv North Kauslim. Muaj tiag tsis muaj kev hais lus tab tom ua. Thiab kuv xav tias qhov no yog qhov xwm txheej txaus ntshai uas peb nyob hauv, yog, koj paub, thaum kev sim North Kauslim tom ntej no, Asmeskas puas yuav npaj tawm tsam nws? Thiab qhov ntawd puas yog qhov pib ntawm kev nce siab txaus ntshai?
Qhov tseeb, koj paub, Congressional Research Service nyuam qhuav tshaj tawm tsab ntawv tshaj tawm rau hnub Friday. Lawv tau hais tias thawj ob peb hnub, 330,000 tus neeg yuav raug tua tam sim ntawd. Thiab qhov ntawd tsuas yog siv cov riam phom ua ke. Thiab thaum koj suav nrog riam phom nuclear, koj paub, lawv kwv yees li 25 lab tus tib neeg. Kuv txhais tau tias, koj kwv yees pes tsawg tus neeg, tshwj xeeb tshaj yog nyob rau thaj tsam uas Nyiv, Kaus Lim Qab Teb, Tuam Tshoj, Russia, thiab koj muaj North Kauslim, qhov tseeb, uas muaj txog li 60 riam phom nuclear?
AMY GOODMAN: Christine—
Christine AHN: Yog li - yog?
AMY GOODMAN: Christine, peb tsuas muaj 20 vib nas this, tab sis dab tsi txog qhov kev sib cav hais txog seb Thawj Tswj Hwm Trump puas yuav tsum mus xyuas thaj tsam Demilitarized? Qhov tseem ceeb ntawm qhov no?
Christine AHN: Zoo, kuv xav tias nws tsis npaj yuav mus xyuas qhov ntawd. Kuv xav tias vim li cas, koj paub, nws cov thawj coj txhawj xeeb tias nws yuav ua qee cov lus tawm tsam uas tuaj yeem ua rau North Kauslim. Thiab yog li ntawd, tam sim no kuv xav tias qhov tseem ceeb tiag tiag yog tias muaj kev txhawb nqa pej xeem thoob plaws lub tebchaws hauv Tebchaws Meskas, kev tawm tsam loj tau npaj rau lub Kaum Ib Hlis 11th, rau Hnub Ua Tsov Rog, los ntawm Veterans for Peace. Thiab—
AMY GOODMAN: Peb yuav tsum tau tawm ntawm qhov ntawd, Christine Ahn, tab sis peb yuav ua Part 2 thiab tshaj tawm hauv online ntawm Democratnow.org.
