Tus kws qhia txog kev sib haum xeeb Colman McCarthy xam phaj los ntawm CBS Xov Xwm

By CBS News, Kaum Hlis 30, 2020

Tus kws sau ntawv thiab tus kws qhia ntawv Colman McCarthy pib txhua xyoo nrog cov lus nug pop - thiab khoom plig nyiaj. "Kuv rho tawm ib puas nyiaj: 'Yog tias muaj leej twg tuaj yeem teb cov lus nug, txhua npe, nws yog koj li," nws hais.

McCarthy hais kom tus kws sau ntawv xov xwm Mo Rocca coj cov lus nug no.

“Robert E. Lee yog leejtwg?”

"Nws yog tus thawj coj ntawm pab tub rog ntawm Confederate, ntawm Northern Virginia," said Rocca, pib tawm kev ntseeg siab.

"Napoleon yog leej twg?"

"Nws yog ib tug txiv leej tub muaj ib txoj?"

“Yog, yog lawm. Cov Fab Kis Fab Kis. Zoo! Zoo saib kawg li. Nws zoo saib, ”McCarthy hais. Tab sis tom qab ntawd…

"Puas yog Emily Balch?"

"Nws tsis yog tus poj niam uas yuav tsis tawm hauv nws lub tsev hauv Massachusetts, thiab sau paj lug?” nug Rocca, hesitatedly.

McCarthy piav qhia, “Tsis tau. Emily Balch yog tus yeej Nobel Peace yam khoom muaj nqis-uas tsim lub Cov Poj Niam Thoob Ntiaj Teb rau Kev Thaj Yeeb thiab Kev Ywj Pheej. "

Tsis yog Rocca tuaj yeem txheeb tau Jody Williams (ib tus yeej-yeej rau qhov nws ua haujlwm nrog cov av), lossis Jeannette Rankin (thawj tus poj niam raug xaiv tsa rau Congress, thiab tib tug tswv cuab pov npav tawm tsam Asmeskas kev koom tes hauv ob qho kev tsov rog hauv ntiaj teb).

McCarthy hais tias, "Mo, tsis txhob xav tias tsis zoo." “Nws ib txwm muaj nyiaj npaum li cas. Kuv tuaj yeem suav rau Asmeskas kev kawm! ”

Tau 38 xyoo Colman McCarthy tau sim muab cov nyiaj ntawd mus rau ntau dua 30,000 tus tub ntxhais kawm theem siab thiab tsev kawm qib siab hauv cheeb tsam Washington DC uas tau kawm nws qhov kev kawm txog kev nyab xeeb. Ib tus kws sau ntawv yav dhau los rau Washington Post, McCarthy tau siv nws lub neej kev tshaj tawm, thiab qhia, tsis ua nruj ua tsiv.

"Nws muaj cov kev xaiv los daws cov kev tsis sib haum xeeb hauv lwm txoj kev," nws hais. "Tab sis peb tsis qhia lawv lwm txoj hauv kev, yog li lawv saib rau tib neeg zoo li kuv: 'Zoo, koj yog ib tus ntawm cov menyuam yaus hnub nyoog 60 xyoo, ib tus ntawm cov kev ywj pheej qub, tseem dai" ncig, puas yog? '"

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Kev kawm txog kev thaj yeeb tus kws qhia ntawv Colman McCarthy. CBS News

McCarthy tus kheej txoj kev taug kev pib 82 xyoo dhau los thaum nws yug los rau tsev neeg txawv tebchaws nyob New York's Long Island. Nws tau mus kawm nyob rau hauv Spring Hill College hauv Alabama, uas yog qhov nws nyiam ua ntej: "Kuv tau mus rau 18 lub laj thawj, Mo. Nws muaj kev ntaus golf nyob hauv tsev kawm ntawv."

Nws muab pro nws xyoo laus. Tab sis nws kuj tseem pom cov ntawv sau ntawm Trappist hauj sam thiab social activist Thomas Merton, thiab tsav tsheb rov qab los ntawm Alabama, nws nres ntawm lub tsev teev ntuj hauv Georgia. Nws mus nyob hauv tsev tsib xyoos thiab ib nrab xyoo

Rocca nug, "Ua li cas koj tsis ua txiv plig?"

McCarthy luag "Kuv tsis nyiam qhov caw."

Nws hu nws, nws tig mus, yog ntawv sau xov xwm. Hauv xyoo 1969 nws tau pib sau ntawv rau Washington Post, qhov chaw nws xam phaj thiab ua phooj ywg zoo rau ntau tshaj 20 tus neeg sawv cev ntawm kev thaj yeeb nyab xeeb tshaj plaws.

Nws hais rau cov neeg tuaj saib, "Kuv tau txais cov ntawv xa tuaj ntawm txhua lub lim tiam los ntawm cov neeg nyeem thoob plaws lub teb chaws, hu rau kuv tus neeg ruam, lub zog, tsis paub dab tsi ... thiab tom qab ntawd kuv nyeem kuv cov ntawv tsis zoo."

Tab sis tsis txhob cia nws jovial yam dag koj. McCarthy tsis muaj ib yam dab tsi ntawm qhov tshaj dhau los hauv nws qhov kev tawm tsam qhov kev ua phem uas nws pom nyob ib puag ncig peb.

Nws tsis ntseeg tias peb yuav tsum muaj ib pab tub rog sawv. Rocca tau nug, "Koj puas xav tias peb yuav tsum muaj kev nyab xeeb ciam teb?"

Nws hais tias, "Kuv tsis ntseeg txog ciam teb." "Ciam Tebchaws yog tsim artificially, feem ntau yog los ntawm kev ua tub rog."

Nws tsis muaj siv rau lub teb chaws ua nkauj. “Kuv ib txwm tsis tau sawv mus rau 'Daim Duab Lub Hnub Qub-Spangled Banner,' vim qhov ntawd yog zaj nkauj kev ua rog. Nws yog hais txog kev tso hoob pob neeg, nws hais txog foob pob ua ntxaij, nws yog hais txog kev ua tsov rog tsis muaj qab hau. ”

Nws yog kev tawm tsam ob lub txim tuag thiab rho menyuam tawm. “Tab sis kuv tsis cem tus neeg twg uas tau rho me nyuam tawm. Kuv tsis xav kom tsoomfwv koom tes nrog. Tab sis kuv xav tias peb yuav tsum qhia txhua tus tias muaj lwm txoj hauv kev los daws qhov tsis muaj menyuam hauv plab. "

Yog tias koj xav tias koj paub yuav ua li cas McCarthy pov npav, zoo, nws yeej tsis tau xaiv tsa. Nws txoj kev mob siab rau tsis yog kev tsim txom tsis yog dhau ntawm tib neeg, uas yog vim li cas nws thiaj li tsis noj nqaij nyob rau xyoo lawm.

Rocca tau nug tias, "Puas muaj dab tsi koj hnav ntawm tsiaj?"

“Tsis yog, kuv nkawm khau tsis tawv. Tab sis kev sim zoo! ”

Nws tsis muaj tsheb; hloov nws caij mus ua hauj lwm. “Kuv ib nyuag tsaus rau kuv, Mo, hais txog kuv lub tsheb kauj vab, Kuv nyiam nws thaum muaj qhov muaj tsheb coob. Muaj lawv, tsuas yog paug qhov cua. Thiab kuv yooj yim rau. Thiab ob peb feeb ua rau kuv lub siab zoo li lub siab xav! ”

Nws coj 20 tus neeg hais lus rau ib semester rau nws chav kawm ntawm Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School hauv Maryland, qhov chaw uas nws qhia ua haujlwm pub dawb. Qhov ntawd yog: McCarthy tsis tau nyiaj los qhia ntawm no. Cov neeg hais lus hauv qhua tau suav cov Nobel laureates Mairead Corrigan, Muhammad Yunus, thiab Adolfo Pérez Esquivel.

Thiab tom qab ntawd, nws tau coj tus neeg saib xyuas los ntawm lub tsev kawm ntawv, ib tus poj niam huv uas tau khiav tawm hauv El Salvador thaum nws muaj 14, thiab yeej tsis tau mus txog qib rau.

Gabrielle Meisel, Kyle Ramos thiab Caroline Villacis yog txhua tus tub ntxhais kawm thaum Rocca poob rau hauv McCarthy chav kawm ua ntej muaj kev sib kis. Nws nug hais tias, "Koj lub neej yuav txawv li cas tom qab koj tawm ntawm no rau qhov tau kawm txoj kev no?"

Villacis tau hais tias "Thaum xub thawj kuv xav txog qee zaum yuav mus rau hauv thaj chaw muaj tswv yim," “Tab sis tam sim no kuv tab tom nrhiav rau ib yam dab tsi ntxiv, Kuv twv, qhov tseeb, qhov twg kuv tau nqis tes los pab tib neeg. Yog li, Kuv xav ua ib tus neeg ua haujlwm sib raug zoo. ”

Ramos hais tias, "Rau kuv, nws yog qhov zoo uas nyuam qhuav tsim lub luag haujlwm uas kuv xav tau, nyiam, pab lwm tus thiab tsuas yog pab peb lub ntiaj teb."

McCarthy kuj "tsuas yog coj tawm qhov zoo tshaj plaws hauv tib neeg," Meisel hais. “Nws pom lub zog hauv peb. Thiab nws paub tseeb tias txhua tus tub ntxhais kawm paub tias lawv tseem ceeb npaum li cas, nws yog ib qho zoo heev. "

McCarthy chav kawm tsis muaj kev xeem thiab tsis muaj qhab nia. Villacis hais tias, "Nws suav txog qib kev ua phem ntawm kev kawm."

Rocca nug, "Koj puas pom zoo?"

“Kuv pom zoo!” nws luag.

Rocca nug McCarthy, "Kev kawm txog kev sib haum xeeb, puas yog qhov koj hu hauv lub neej?"

“Zoo rau kuv txoj kev hu hauv lub neej yog kom tau ib tug txiv zoo thiab ib leej txiv uas muaj kev hlub thiab ib leej txiv uas muaj kev hlub. Kuv xav tias qhov ntawv los ua ntej. ”

Nws yuav txiv nrog nws tus pojniam, Mav, tau 54 xyoo. Nkawm niam txiv muaj peb tug tub.

McCarthy tau hais tias "Nws yog ib qho ntawm cov ntawv zais tsaus txog txoj kev thaj yeeb nyab xeeb. “Lawv siab phem uas peb tsis tshua tau hnov ​​txog. Gandhi yog ib leej txiv thiab leej txiv uas phem heev, yog ib tug txiv muaj cai heev. ”

“Kev thaj yeeb pib hauv tsev?” nug Rocca.

“Yog lawm.”

Thaum Colman McCarthy chav kawm tsis muaj ib qho kev xeem lossis qeb kawm, nws tau xa nws cov tub ntxhais kawm mus tsev nrog ib qho haujlwm tseem ceeb: “Txhua chav kawm, Kuv hais tias, 'Cov ntawv ua tom tsev yog qhia rau ib tus neeg koj hlub lawv hnub no. Thiab yog tias koj nrhiav tsis tau ib tug neeg los qhia rau koj tias koj hlub lawv, saib nws nyuaj me ntsis. Thiab yog tias koj tseem nrhiav tsis tau 'em, hu rau kuv. Kuv paub qhov twg tag nrho cov neeg tsis hlub nws. Nkawd nyob txhua qhov chaw. '”

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