Los ntawm democracynow.org, Ob Hlis 21, 2018. Tshooj 1.
Kaum ob ntawm cov tub ntxhais kawm uas tau dim lub lim tiam lub tsev kawm ntawv tua ntawm Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School hauv Florida tau tuaj txog hauv Tallahassee los thawb cov kev tswj phom tshiab. Hnub Tuesday, Pawg tswj hwm Republican Florida Florida Cov Neeg Sawv Cev tau txwv ib qho kev sib tw los txiav txim siab txog kev txiav nyiaj ntawm kev ntaus nqi-kev ntaus phom hauv lub xeev. Florida tus neeg tua phom, ib tug 19-xyoo dawb tus menyuam kawm ntawv npe hu ua Nikolas Cruz, yog ib tug tub koom xeeb ntawm pab tub rog Army Reserve Officer Training Corps, thiab nws yog ib feem ntawm plaub tus neeg JROTC pab pawg ua haujlwm ntawm lub tsev kawm ntawv uas tau txais $ 10,000 nyiaj pab los ntawm NRA. Yog xav paub ntxiv, peb nrog Pat Elder, tus thawj coj ntawm lub Koom Haum Pabcuam Kev Tiv Thaiv Kev Tiv Thaiv Tus Tub Ntxhais Kawm Ntawv, lub koomhaum uas tswj lub koomhaum ua haujlwm hauv tsev kawm ntawv. Nws yog tus sau "Kev Ua Tub Rog Ua Haujlwm hauv Tebchaws Meskas."
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Qhov no yog daim ntawv sib tw. Daim ntawv yuav tsis nyob rau hauv nws daim ntawv kawg.
AMY GOODMAN: "Moonshiner" yog Bob Dylan, hu los ntawm ib tug hluas heev Bob Dylan, txog kev loj hlob, ib yam dab tsi 17 neeg yuav tsis muaj cai ua, txais qub, hauv Florida. Qhov no yog Kev ywj pheej tam sim no! Kuv yog Amy Goodman.
Kaum ob ntawm cov menyuam kawm ntawv uas tau dim lub lim tiam tsev kawm ntawv nyob hauv Florida tau tuaj txog hauv Tallahassee los thawb rau kev tswj phom tshiab, tom qab lub lis piam loj huab cua ntawm Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. Kaum peb cov neeg raug tua. Cov tub ntxhais kawm tau tuav rally hnub no nyob sab nraud Florida Statehouse, tsuas yog ib hnub tom qab cov Thawj Tswj Fwm Florida Pawg Cov Neeg Sawv Cev tau txwv ib qho kev sib tw los txiav txim kev muag khoom ntawm kev ntaus phom rau hauv lub xeev.
Thaum lub Florida shooting tau sparked ib lub teb chaws sib cav tswv yim phom thiab lub lobbying lub hwj chim ntawm National Rifle Association, lub NRA, tsis tshua muaj kev xav tau them rau lwm qhov ntawm kev tua. Florida tus neeg tua phom, 19-xyoo-laus Nicholas Cruz, yog ib tug tub rog ntawm Army Army Reserve Officer Training Corps, ua ntej nws raug rho tawm ntawm tsev kawm ntawv. Nws hnav nws JROTC lub tsho thaum nws nqa tawm txoj kev tua neeg pov tseg, hauv kev sim ua ke nrog lwm cov menyuam kawm ntawv. Cruz kuj yog ib feem ntawm plaub tus neeg JROTC pab pawg ua haujlwm ntawm lub tsev kawm ntawv uas tau txais $ 10,000 nyiaj pab los ntawm NRA. Xya lub hli dhau los, lub tsev kawm ntawv tau xa tawm tweet, tsocai, "MSD" -Marjory Stoneman Douglas- "JROTC Marksmanship team xav ua tsaug rau NRA rau lawv qhov khoom pub dawb ntawm ze li $ 10,000 kom tau upgrade thiab replenish khoom! "Raws li lub Associated Press, Cruz thiab lwm tus tswv cuab ntawm pab neeg siv cov cua phom tshwj xeeb tsim rau phiaj shooting, feem ntau nyob rau hauv nruab nrab cov hom phiaj ntawm lub hom phiaj loj me me . Ib tug ntawm Cruz tus qub kawm ntawv hais tias, tsocai, "Nws yog ib tug zoo txhaj tshuaj."
Lub caij no, cov tub rog tau txais Kev Ua Haujlwm ntawm Heroism rau peb tus neeg ROTC cov tub rog uas tuag hauv Parkland, Florida, shooting: 15-xyoo Peter Wang thiab ob tug 14-xyoo-laus kawm, Martin Duque thiab Alaina Petty. Wang reportedly tuag thaum tuav lub qhov rooj qhib rau lwm tus hauv nws lub neej.
Peb tau koom nrog tam sim no los ntawm Pat Elder, tus thawj coj ntawm Lub Koom Haum Pabcuam Cov Tiv Thaiv Kev Tiv Thaiv Tus Tub Ntxhais Kawm Ntawv, lub koom haum uas tswj lub koomhaum ua haujlwm hauv cov tsev kawm ntawv, tus kws sau Kev Ua Tub Rog Txawv Tebchaws hauv Tebchaws Meskas.
Koj tuaj yeem teb rau qhov kev coj noj coj ua - qhov uas tau tshwm sim hauv tsev kawm ntawv, qhov txawv li cas, yog dab tsi JROTC yog?
PAT ELDER: Qhov tshij, tsaug rau kuv, Amy.
cov JROTC qhov kev zov me nyuam yog ib qho kev nrhiav tub rog uas muaj ntau dua 3,000 cov tsev kawm ntawv. Ntawm cov no, ntau tshaj li 1,600 cov tsev kawm ntawv koom nrog cov kev tshaj qhia kev kawm thoob plaws hauv lub tebchaws. Yog li ntawd, peb muaj kev sib tua hauv cov tsev kawm ntawv theem siab hauv txhua lub xeev. Lawv tua hluav taws. 177 caliber phom. Lawv raug CO2 raug rho tawm haujlwm. Cov hmoov txhuas pob zeb taug kev ntawm 600 taw ib ob. Los ntawm kev sib piv, ib .22 caliber phom loj nyob ntawm 800 thiab 900 taw ib pliag. Yog li, nws yog ib qho ua tau ua phem tuag, uas yog pab tub rog. Thiab Florida xeev txoj cai tshwj xeeb txwv tsis pub nqa cov riam phom, cov riam phom uas ua kom tuag, rau hauv cov tsev kawm ntawv.
AMY GOODMAN: Yog li, koj muaj Nikolas Cruz, tus neeg tua neeg lees paub. Nws yog ib feem ntawm cov ROTC qhov kev pab cuam, kev txhawb nqa los ntawm NRA, ntawm lub tsev kawm ntawv no, txawm tias lub tsev kawm ntawv muaj cov kev tsis txaus siab ntawm kev ua phem thiab kev tsim txom, thiab thaum kawg nws tawm nws. Tau koj-nws hnav ib JROTC T-shirt thaum nws qhib hluav taws rau nws cov phooj ywg.
PAT ELDER: Zoo, thaj nws xav qhia rau lub ntiaj teb hais tias nws tau ua ke nrog cov JROTC qhov kev zov me nyuam. Amy, nws yog ib qho kev tsis txaus ntseeg. Peb muaj lub Tebchaws Asmeskas Tub Rog thiab peb ceg ua haujlwm hauv cov tsev kawm ntawv theem siab uas ua rau muaj kev xiam hoob qhab rau 13- thiab 14-xyoo. Nws yog lub sij hawm no nres. Thiab qhov kev zov me nyuam muaj ntau tshaj 575,000 cov me nyuam nyob hauv txhua lub xeev, thiab nws qhia txog kev tsis txaus ntshai, txaus ntshai, rov saib dua ntawm keeb kwm Asmeskas. Tebchaws Asmesliskas, piv txwv tias, muaj ib lub nkoj uas tsis muaj nqaij ntim qaum tawm ntawm Gulf Tonkin, thiab nws raug nplua rau sab qaum teb ntawm Nyab Laj. Peb tau pab Cubans ua lawv txoj kev ywj pheej vim lawv raug kho los ntawm lus Mev. Kuv xav tias koj tau txais lub tswv yim. Peb tsis yog hais txog kev muab cov riam phom rau tes ntawm 13 xyoo. Peb kuj tseem tham txog lub kaw lus uas brainwashes cov me nyuam nrog cov phau ntawv nyeem. Piv txwv li, cov neeg siv phau ntawv siv rau hauv JROTC cov kev pabcuam thoob plaws lub tebchaws muaj ib chav nyob hauv Tebchaws Meskas hu ua "Koj Cov Neeg." Kuv kawm ua "Peb Cov Neeg." Puas yog koj?
AMY GOODMAN: Yog li dab tsi yog qhov kev txuas ntawm lub NRA thiab cov no JROTC cov kev kawm, yam tsawg kawg ntawm lub tsev kawm ntawv nyob hauv Florida?
PAT ELDER: Zoo, qhov NRA feem ntau tsis muab nyiaj. Lawv muab cov ntaub ntawv thiab khoom siv. Ua li ntawd, lawv tuaj yeem yuav cov ntaub ntawv thiab khoom siv los ntawm lawv cov neeg txhawb nqa. Thoob plaws hauv lub tebchaws, thiab tshwj xeeb tshaj yog nyob rau hauv Rust Rust thiab tsev kawm ntawv cov neeg txom nyem, cov tsev kawm ntawv nyias xav nyias teeb qhov hauv lawv lub tsev kawm ntawv, thiab lawv xav tau cov khoom. Lawv xav tau cov backstops, lawv xav tau lub hom phaj, lawv xav tau cov phom, lawv xav tau cov CO2 cartridges, thiab lawv xav tau cov hmoov txhuas. Yog li, tus NRA yuav pab tau cov tsev kawm ntawv no los ntawm cov nyiaj pab dawb, thiab lawv siv nyiaj ntawm cov tsev kawm ntawv los ntawm cov nyiaj pab nyob thoob plaws lub tebchaws.
Yuav tsum tau muab sau tseg, ib yam nkaus thiab, tias cov no yog cov pob txha. Cov hmoov txhuas txhaws ntawm cov phom leej kawg ntawm rab phom, hauv pem teb, thiab cov hmoov txhuas hauv cov phiaj tom qab. Muaj ib qhov txuas ntawm cov hlau lead hauv firing, uas muaj cov hom phom nkaus xwb, thiab nce cov ntshav txhuas. Nws yog ib yam uas yuav tsum tau tham txog. Thiab nws muaj kev noj qab haus huv ntawm JROTC shooting nyob rau hauv lub tebchaws United States.
AMY GOODMAN: Zoo, Pat Elder, Kuv xav ua tsaug rau koj nrog peb. Peb mus txuas ntxiv peb sib tham thiab muab tso hauv online ntawm democracynow.org nyob rau hauv qhov web exclusives. Pat Elder, tus thawj coj ntawm Lub Koom Haum Pab Koom Tes Txhawb Nqa Tub Ntxhais Kawm Ntawv, ib lub koom haum uas tswj kev ua tub rog hauv tsev kawm ntawv, tus kws sau ntawv ntawm Kev Ua Tub Rog Txawv Tebchaws hauv Tebchaws Meskas.
Qhov no yog Kev ywj pheej tam sim no! Kuv yog Amy Goodman. Tsaug rau koom peb Yog tias koj xav mus rau Part 2 ntawm peb kev sib tham nrog Pat Elder, koj tuaj yeem mus rau hauv democracynow.org.
