Na Democracy Now, Malaki 22, 2022
He Luna Papa o Yurii Sheliazhenko World BEYOND War.
Ua hōʻuluʻulu nā haneli o nā mea kū'ē kū'ē kū'ēʻole i ke kūlanakauhaleʻo Ukrainian o Kherson i ka Pōʻakahi e kū'ē i ka nohoʻana o Rūkini ma ke kūlanakauhale a kū'ē i ka lawelawe kauaʻole. Ua hoʻohana nā pūʻali Lūkini i nā grenades a me nā pū mīkini e hoʻopuehu i ka lehulehu. I kēia manawa, manaʻo ʻia ʻo Pelekikena Biden e huakaʻi i kahi NATO i kēia pule ma Brussels, kahi e hoʻomākaukau ai nā hoa pili Komohana e kūkākūkā i ka pane inā huli ʻo Rūsia i ka hoʻohana ʻana i nā mea kaua nuklea a me nā mea kaua ʻē aʻe o ka luku nui. Pono nā ʻaoʻao ʻelua o ke kaua e hui pū a hoʻoneʻe, wahi a Kyiv-based Ukrainian peace activist Yurii Sheliazhenko. "ʻO ka mea e pono ai mākou ʻaʻole ka piʻi ʻana o ka hakakā me nā mea kaua hou aʻe, ʻoi aku ka hoʻopaʻi, ʻoi aku ka inaina iā Rūsia a me Kina, akā ʻoiaʻiʻo, ma kahi o kēlā, pono mākou i nā kamaʻilio maluhia piha."
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AMY GOODMAN: ʻo kēia ʻO ka Democracy Nei! ʻO wau ʻo Amy Goodman, me Juan González.
Hoʻopau mākou i kēia lā hōʻike ma Kyiv, Ukraine, kahi a mākou i hui pū ai me Yurii Sheliazhenko. ʻO ia ke kākau ʻōlelo hoʻokō o ka Ukrainian Pacifist Movement a he lālā papa o ka European Bureau for Conscientious Objection. ʻO Yurii kekahi lālā o ka papa alakaʻi ma World KEIKI Kaua a me kahi hoa noiʻi ma KROK Kulanui ma Kiev, Ukraine. Ua hahai pono ʻo ia i nā hōʻike mai ke kūlanakauhale hema o Ukraine ʻo Kherson, kahi i hoʻohana ai nā pūʻali Lūkini i nā grenades a me nā pū mīkini e hoʻopuehu ai i ka lehulehu o nā haneli o ka poʻe i ʻākoakoa i ka Pōʻakahi e kūʻē i ka noho ʻana o Rusia.
Yurii, hoʻi hou mai ʻO ka Democracy Nei! Aia nō ʻoe ma Kiev. Hiki iā ʻoe ke kamaʻilio e pili ana i nā mea e hana nei i kēia manawa a me kāu e kāhea nei? A makemake nui wau, no ka laʻana, i ka mea i manaʻo ʻia he kāhea like ʻole no kahi ʻāina lele ʻole no laila ʻaʻole hiki iā Rūsia ke kuʻi i nā kūlanakauhale, akā hopohopo nui ke Komohana i ka hoʻokō ʻana i kahi ʻāina lele ʻole, ʻo ia hoʻi ka pana. i lalo o nā mokulele Lūkini, e alakaʻi i kahi kaua nuklea, a pehea kou kūlana ma kēia.
YURII SHELIAZHENKO: Mahalo iā ʻoe, e Amy, a me ke aloha i ka poʻe aloha maluhia a puni ka honua.
ʻOiaʻiʻo, ʻo kahi wahi lele ʻole he pane militarised i ka pilikia o kēia manawa. A ʻo ka mea e pono ai mākou ʻaʻole ka piʻi ʻana o ka hakakā me nā mea kaua hou aʻe, ʻoi aku ka hoʻopaʻi, ʻoi aku ka inaina iā Rūsia a me Kina, akā, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ma kahi o kēlā, pono mākou i nā kamaʻilio maluhia ākea. A, ʻike ʻoe, ʻaʻole ʻo ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa kahi hui pili ʻole o kēia hakakā. ʻO ka mea ʻē aʻe, aia kēia hakakā ma waho o Ukraine. ʻElua mau ala: he paio ma waena o ke Komohana a me ka Hikina a me ka hakakā ma waena o Russia a me Ukraine. Hoonui o NATO ʻO ia ma mua o ka hopu ʻana i ka mana ikaika ma Kyiv e - kākoʻo ʻia e ke Komohana, ʻo Ukrainian nationalists ma 2014 a me ka hopu ʻana i ka mana hoʻomāinoino ma Crimea a me Donbas e nā poʻe Lūkini a me nā pūʻali koa Lūkini i kēlā makahiki. No laila, ʻo 2014, ʻoiaʻiʻo, he makahiki ia e hoʻomaka ai i kēia hakakā ʻino ma waena - mai ka hoʻomaka ʻana, ma waena o ke aupuni a ma waena o ka poʻe kaʻawale. A laila, ma hope o ke kaua nui, ma hope o ka pau ʻana o ke kuʻikahi maluhia, ua ʻaelike ʻo Minsk, ʻaʻole i hoʻokō ʻia nā ʻaoʻao ʻelua, a ʻike mākou i nā hōʻike pahuhopu o OSCE e pili ana i ka uhaki ahi ma na aoao elua. A ua piʻi aʻe kēia mau ʻae ʻana i ke ahi ma mua o ka hoʻouka kaua ʻana o Rūsia, ʻo kēia hoʻouka kaua ʻole ʻana o Rūsia i Ukraine. A ʻo ka pilikia holoʻokoʻa, ʻaʻole i hoʻokō ʻia kahi hopena maluhia i kēlā manawa, i ʻae ʻia e ka United Nations Security Council. A i kēia manawa ke ʻike nei mākou ma kahi o Biden, Zelensky, Putin, Xi Jinping e noho ana ma ka papaʻaina kūkākūkā hoʻokahi, e kūkākūkā pehea e hoʻololi ai i kēia honua no ka maikaʻi, e wehe i kekahi hegemony a e hoʻokumu i ka lokahi - ma kahi o kēlā, loaʻa iā mākou kēia politika hoʻoweliweli mai. ʻO ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa i Rusia, mai ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa a Kina, ʻo kēia mau koi no ka hoʻomehana ʻana i ka hui kīwila Ukrainian e hoʻokumu i kēia wahi lele ʻole.
A ma ke ala, he inaina nui loa ia iā Rusia ma Ukraine, a ke laha nei kēia inaina a puni ka honua, ʻaʻole wale i ke aupuni hoʻomehana akā no ka poʻe Lūkini pū kekahi. Akā ke ʻike nei mākou ua kūʻē ka poʻe Lūkini, ka nui o lākou i kēia kaua. A, ʻike ʻoe, e hoʻomaikaʻi wau - mahalo wau i ka poʻe wiwo ʻole a pau e kūʻē kūʻē ʻole i ke kaua a me ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa ʻana, kēlā poʻe i kūʻē kūʻē i ka noho ʻana o Rūsia ma ke kūlanakauhale ʻo Ukrainian ʻo Kherson. A ʻo ka pūʻali koa hoʻouka kaua, pana akula iā lākou. He mea hilahila.
ʻIke ʻoe, he nui ka poʻe e ʻimi nei i ke ʻano ola ʻole ma Ukraine. He 1,659 ka nui o ka poe i hoole i ka lawelawe kaua ma ko kakou aina ma mua o ka hoouka kaua ana mai o Rusia. No keia helu hōʻike makahiki 2021 no ke ku e ana i ka oihana koa, i paiia e ka European Bureau for Conscientious Objection. Hoʻopau ka hōʻike ʻaʻole he wahi palekana ʻo ʻEulopa i ka makahiki 2021 no ka nui o ka poʻe hoʻopaʻapaʻa hoʻopaʻapaʻa ma kekahi mau ʻāina, ma Ukraine, ma Rusia, a me Crimea a me Donbas i noho ʻia e Rusia; ma Tureke, nohoia e Tureke ma ka aoao akau o Kupero; ma Azerbaijan; Alemenia; Belarusa; a me nā ʻāina ʻē aʻe. ʻO ka poʻe hōʻole i ka ʻoihana koa i mua i ka hoʻopiʻi, hopu ʻia, hoʻokolokolo ʻia e nā ʻaha koa, hoʻopaʻahao, hoʻopaʻi, hoʻoweliweli, hoʻouka, hoʻoweliweli make, hoʻokae. I Ukraine, ʻo ka hoʻohewa ʻana i ka pūʻali koa a me ke kākoʻo ʻana i ke kūʻē ʻana i ka naʻau i manaʻo ʻia he kipi a hoʻopaʻi ʻia. Ua hopu ʻia a hoʻopaʻi ʻia nā tausani o nā kānaka ma nā hui kūʻē kaua ma Rūsia.
Makemake wau e haʻi i ka ʻōlelo o ka Movement of Conscientious Objectors i ka lawelawe koa ma Rusia mai kēia. EBCO hōʻike makahiki: ʻōlelo, "ʻO ka mea e hana nei ma Ukraine he kaua i hoʻokuʻu ʻia e Russia. Hoʻohewa ka Conscientious Objectors Movement i ka hoʻouka kaua o Rusia. A kāhea aku iā Rusia e hoʻōki i ke kaua. Ke kahea aku nei ka Conscientious Objectors Movement i na koa Rusia e komo ole i na hoouka kaua. Mai lilo i poe lawehala kaua. Ke kāhea aku nei ka Conscientious Objectors Movement i nā poʻe i hoʻopaʻa ʻia e hōʻole i ka lawelawe kaua: e noi no ka lawelawe kīwila ʻē aʻe, a i ʻole e hoʻāʻo e hoʻokuʻu ʻia ma nā kumu olakino, "hopena o ka ʻōlelo. A, ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻo ka Ukrainian Pacifist Movement ka hoʻāhewa ʻana i ka pane militarised o Ukraine a me kēia kūpaʻa ʻana o nā kūkākūkā ʻana, a mākou e ʻike nei i kēia manawa he hopena o ka hahai ʻana i ka hoʻonā koa.
ʻO IOHN ʻO GONZÁLEZ: Yurii, makemake wale wau e nīnau iā ʻoe, no ka mea, he mau minuke wale nō kā mākou i koe - ke kamaʻilio nei ʻoe e pili ana i ke komo pololei ʻana o ka US a NATO ua hala. He liʻiliʻi loa ka hōʻike ʻana, ʻaʻole wale i ka pilikia o nā mea kaua i hoʻolako ʻia e ke Komohana iā Ukraine, akā, ʻo ia hoʻi, maopopo loa, e ka ʻikepili mākaʻikaʻi ukali maoli e loaʻa ana i ka pūʻali koa Ukrainian mai ke Komohana. A ʻo koʻu manaʻo, he mau makahiki mai kēia manawa, e aʻo mākou ua alakaʻi ʻia nā hoʻouka kaua drone ma luna o nā pūʻali Lūkini mai nā kahua ʻAmelika ma nā wahi e like me Nevada, a i ʻole he helu nui o CIA a me nā pūʻali hana kūikawā i loko o Ukraine. E like me kāu e ʻōlelo ai, aia nā nationalists ma nā ʻaoʻao a pau, ma Rūsia, ma US a me Ukraine, nāna i hoʻoulu i kēia pilikia i kēia manawa. Ke haʻohaʻo nei au i kou manaʻo i ke ʻano o ke kūʻē ʻana i waena o ka poʻe Ukrainian i kēia kaua. Pehea ka laha nui?
YURII SHELIAZHENKO: ʻIke ʻoe, ʻo kēia piʻi ʻana ka hopena o ka hoʻoikaika ʻana mai kēia mau ʻaelike pūʻali koa. Ua ʻike mākou ua pili ke Kakauolelo ʻAmelika ʻo Lloyd Austin iā Raytheon. Aia ʻo ia ma ka papa alakaʻi. A ʻike mākou he 6% ka ulu ʻana o nā waihona ʻo Raytheon ma New York Stock Exchange. A hāʻawi lākou i nā missiles Stinger i Ukraine, ka mea hana o Javelin missiles, [inaudible], he 38%. A, ʻoiaʻiʻo, loaʻa iā mākou kēia Lockheed Martin. Hāʻawi lākou i nā mokulele F-35. Loaʻa iā lākou ka ulu ʻana o 14%. A loaa lakou i ke kaua, a hooikaika lakou i ke kaua, a ke lana nei ko lakou manao e loaa hou aku ka waiwai mai ka hookahe koko ana, mai ka luku aku, a ma kekahi ano, aole lakou e pii no ka nui o ke kaua nukelea.
A pono nā kānaka e koi i ke aupuni e kūkākūkā ma mua o ka hakakā. Nui nā hana e kūʻē i ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa ʻana ma ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa a me ʻEulopa. Hiki iā ʻoe ke loaʻa ka hoʻolaha ma ka HoloholoNua.org pūnaewele ma lalo o ka hae, "Russia Out of Ukraine. NATO Ma waho o ke ola. Ke hoʻomau nei ʻo CodePink i ka noi ʻana iā Pelekikena Biden a me ka ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa no ke kūkākūkā ʻana ma mua o ka piʻi ʻana. Eia kekahi, ʻo ia ka hoʻoneʻe honua, "Stop Lockheed Martin," ma ʻApelila 28. Coalition No to NATO Ua hoʻolaha lākou e hele ana lākou i Iune 2022 no kēia a kūʻē i ka NATO piko ma Madrid. Ma Italia, ua hoʻokumu ʻo Movimento Nonviolento i ka hoʻolaha kūʻē naʻau i ka hui pū ʻana me ka poʻe kūʻē naʻau, nā mea evaders, nā haʻalele ʻo Rūsia a me Ukrainian. Ma ʻEulopa, ua ʻōlelo ʻo ʻEulopa no ka Peace campaign e hoʻopuka ka poʻe pacifists nonviolent ʻEulopa i ka ultimatum iā Putin a me Zelensky: E hooki koke i ke kaua, a i ʻole e hoʻonohonoho nā kānaka i nā kaʻa kaʻa o nā pacifists nonviolent mai ʻEulopa a pau, me ka hoʻohana ʻana i nā ala āpau e hele ai i nā wahi hakakā ʻaʻohe mea kaua e hana. ma ke ano he poe kiai maluhia iwaena o ka poe kaua. No ke kūʻē ʻana ma Ukraine, no ka laʻana, loaʻa iā mākou kēia mea hilahila -
AMY GOODMAN: Yurii, elima kekona ko makou.
YURII SHELIAZHENKO: ʻAe, makemake wau e ʻōlelo a palapala hoopii i kapa ʻia "E ʻae i nā kāne mai ka 18 a hiki i ka 60 me ka ʻole o ka ʻike koa e haʻalele iā Ukraine," ma OpenPetition.eu, ua hōʻiliʻili i 59,000 o nā pūlima.
AMY GOODMAN: E Yurii, e haʻalele mākou iā ia ma laila, akā mahalo nui wau iā ʻoe no kou noho pū ʻana me mākou. ʻO Yurii Sheliazhenko, ke kākau ʻōlelo hoʻokō o ka Ukrainian Pacifist Movement.
