'Ōleloʻo Oscar-mea kohoʻiaʻo James Cromwell ma mua o ka manawa o ka hale paʻahao no ka hōʻoiaʻiʻo kipi

AMY GOODMAN: ʻO James Cromwell ka mea i kohoʻia no ka hale paʻahao e hōʻike ana i ka hale paʻahao ma 4: 00 pm Ma ka palena hikina o kēia lā i ka mokuʻo New York, ma hope o ka hoʻopaʻiʻiaʻana i hoʻokahi hebedoma ma hope o nā kaʻa no ke komo pūʻana i ka kū'ē kū'ēʻole i kahi pūnaewele mana maoli. 'Ōleloʻo Cromwell e hoʻomaka pūʻo ia i kahi mea make. ʻO ia kekahi o nāʻeleleʻeono i hopuʻia no ka pāpāʻana i ka huakaʻi ma ka nohoʻana i waho o ka hale hana o ka hanana 650 megawatt ma Wawayanda, Niu Ioka, maanei, Kekemapa 2015. 'Ōlelo nā mea hoʻonāuki e'ōlelo ana ka lāʻau i ka hoʻomehana kino kino i nā'āina a pili e kōkua i ka hoʻololi o ke aniau.

Ua kaulanaʻo James Cromwell no kona mau kuleana ma kekahi mau kiʻiʻoniʻoni 50 Hollywood, i waeʻia no ka Oscar ʻAno, a me kekahi mau huahelu TV, me ʻEono Kiʻi ma lalo. Ua'ōlelo aku wau iā ia i ka Pōʻalima a me kekahi o kāna mau mea i hoʻopiʻiʻia e hele nei i ka hale paʻahao i kēia lā,ʻo Pramilla Malick, ka mea nāna i hoʻokumu i ka County Protect Orange, kahi hui kaiaulu e kū'ē i ka pūnaehana kala kino. Ua holoʻo ia ma ka 2016 no ka Senate Senateʻo New York. Ua hoʻomaka wau e nīnau iā James Cromwell no ke kumu e hele aiʻo ia i ka hale paʻahao i kēia lā.

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: ʻO mākou a pau, e hakakā nei,ʻaʻole e pale i kahi ala ola, akā, e pale aku i ka ola pono'ī. ʻO kā mākou mauʻoihana he banekorupa. Kūpono ko mākou mau alakaʻi. A no ka lehulehu e hōʻehaʻeha ana i ka'ōnaehana holoʻokoʻa. Aia kahi pilina pololei ma waena o ke kanu i Minisink-

AMY GOODMAN: ʻAuhea ke Minisink?

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: I Wawayanda. Aia i ka moku'āinaʻo New York. Kapa lākou iā ia he upstate. ʻAʻole hiki ke kiʻekiʻe ma mua o ka palena palena o New Jersey. Ma waena o kēlā meakanu a me ka Middle East. ʻAʻole kākou ma ke kaua wale nō me Iraq a me Suria a me Afghanistan a me Yemen. Ke kaua nei mākou me Dimock, Pennsylvania, kahi e hele mai ai ke kinoea, me Wawayanda, ke hoʻohana nei i ke kinoea, me Seneca Lake, kahi e mālama ai, a me ka Papa Kū.

Aʻo ka manawa,ʻoiaʻiʻo, e kapaʻia ka maʻi. ʻAʻole hiki i ka hapanui ke kau i ko lākou manamana lima ma ke kumu o ia mea, akāʻike ka poʻe i ka hoʻoweliweli. ʻO ka'ikekala ka mea maʻi. Aʻo kahi ala wale nō e lanakila ai i kēia kanakē,ʻo ia keʻano o ka nohoʻana, a me keʻano o ko mākouʻano e noʻonoʻo ai iā mākou iho. A ke kāhea aku nei au i kēia loli weliweli. No laila,ʻo ka hoʻololi kēia.

NERMEEN KANAKA: No laila, e wehewehe i keʻano o ka loulou. Ke'ōlelo neiʻoe,ʻo ke kumu o ka mea e hana nei,ʻo US ke hana nei, ma ka Middle East, a me ka mea e hana nei i ka'ākau o Niu Ioka a me ke kūʻana i ka pōhaku a pēlā aku.

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: Kūkuluʻia kēia mea kanu e kahi hui nona wale nō ka waiwai e loaʻa i ka waiwai. ʻAʻole pono ka māmā, a me ka ikaika o ka ikehu i ka ola i ke kaiāulu. A i kēia manawa, he kaiaulu loa ke kaiaulu, no ka mea, he hopena no ia i nā kānaka o New York. ʻO nā mea paukū ultrafine e puka mai nei mai loko mai o kēia mau momona a ka makani i New York City. No laila ua pilikia nā kānaka a pau.

I kēia manawa, ua hana ʻia no ka mea ke hoʻāʻo nei mākou e loaʻa kahi kūʻokoʻa ikehu. ʻO kēlā ikehu a mākou e hoʻāʻo nei e kūʻokoʻa mai ka gas a me ka aila i hele mai mai ka Hikina Waena. I ka wā i hoʻomaka ai ka neʻe ʻana o ka Hikina Waena i nā aupuni kemokalaka hou aku, ua ʻōlelo ke aupuni o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa a me nā aupuni ʻē aʻe, ʻo Pelekane, Palani, nā mana kolone āpau, "ʻAʻole, ʻaʻole, ʻaʻole. ʻAʻole ʻoe e neʻe i mua i ke aupuni a ka lehulehu, no ka mea inā ʻoe e neʻe i kahi aupuni a ka lehulehu, hoʻoweliweli ʻoe i kā mākou hiki i kou ikehu. " A no laila, hana ʻino lākou, i ko lākou mau ala pono ʻole.

Aʻo ka hopena, ua alakaʻiʻia i ka-mākou i hana ISIS. ʻO mākou, nāʻAmelika, i hana ISIS, i mea e hakakā ai i kekahi mea'ē aʻe -ʻo ke kuhihewa hoʻokahi a mākou i hana ai me ka poʻe mujahideen ma Afghanistan. Aʻo ia ka mālamaʻana i ko mākou mau pono waiwai. Ināʻoe e nānā iā Mr. Tillerson, e noho anaʻo Mr. Tillerson ma kahi hapalua hapalua miliona waiwai e pili ai i nā poʻe Lūkini. A no laila, ua loaʻa iā ia-

AMY GOODMAN: Aiaʻo ia CEO o ExxonMobil.

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: Aiaʻo ia CEO, ke kali nei. Hiki iā ia ke hoʻopili i kāna hui. Hiki iā ia ke hoʻopili i kāna hui, i ka wā i hoʻolālāʻia ai kaʻae. No laila, ke'ōlelo nei wau aia kahi pili, ke kamaʻilioʻoe e pili ana i ka ikehu. Loaʻa ka 'ike ma ka honua holoʻokoʻa a hanaʻia ma nā wahi wale nō. Ke hoʻohua nei mākou i ka ikehu ma ka puhiʻana i ka honua a me ka loaʻaʻana o ka gas methane, kahi i maʻaʻole i ke olakino. A holo mākou ma o nā paipu. ʻO ka kumu nui o ia mea,ʻaʻole naʻe ia e hoʻoholo i ka mana. ʻO ia ke hoʻounaʻana i Kanada e liquefy, kahi hiki iā lākou ke loaʻa iʻeono manawa i ka waiwai mai ke kūʻai aku o kēlā kinoea ma mua o ka hiki iā lākou maʻAmelika Hui Pūʻia.

AMY GOODMAN: No laila,ʻeā, e nīnau wau iāʻoe i kahi mea kokoke iʻelua makahiki i hala. ʻO wau, e hele anaʻoe i ka hale paʻahao i kēia manawa, akāʻo kāu hana i hanaʻiaʻo Iune 2015. E haʻi iā mākou kahi i hele ai a me kāu hana.

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: Ua kū'ē mākou i ka pupuhi i mua o kēia mea kanu i hanaʻia - ua kūkuluʻia no nā makahikiʻelua a me ka hapalua. A hiki i ka palena-ʻo ka nui o nā poʻe e hele nei e hoʻolaha i ko lākou mau pepeiao i ke kākoʻo, akā,ʻaʻohe mea i loaʻa. Ua ho'āʻo mākou-

AMY GOODMAN: A he mea kanu kēia,

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: He mea kanu ia, he lāʻau mana i hoʻomohanaʻia i kaʻohana,ʻo ia hoʻi ke komo mai i ke kinoea mai Pennsylvania.

AMY GOODMAN: Aʻo lākou nei?

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: ʻAe,ʻo ia -ʻo ia ka '

AMY GOODMAN: ʻO ka hui?

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: Hoʻolālā nā Hoʻokumu Uila Hoʻokumu i ka mea kanu.

AMY GOODMAN: ʻO CPV.

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: Akā, aia ka Mailakini Millennium, kahi a Pramilla eʻike nui ai i ka mea, nona kēia. Loaʻa ia ia i nā hui nuiʻekolu: Mitsubishi, GE a me Credit Suisse. I kēia manawa, pehea lā e makemake ai kēlā mau hui kaiaulu nuiʻekolu i kēia kumulāʻau, nui ka nui,ʻoiai he pōʻino? ʻO kā lākou makemake nui,ʻo ia ka hōʻeaʻana o nā mea kanu kūikawā 300. Inā kūkuluʻia kēia kumukūʻai a loaʻa i ka pūnaewele,ʻaʻohe pono no ka kūkuluʻana i kēia mau mea kanu. Manaʻo mākou he mea hiki ke paniʻia kēia mea, inā makemakeʻoe e ho'ōki i ka holoʻokoʻa o nāʻenehana hydrofracking a me kona hopena ma ko mākou kaiaulu.

AMY GOODMAN: He aha kāu i hana ai?

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: Piʻi mākou me ka manaʻo e hoʻopaʻa iā mākou iho. Ua hoʻopaʻa mākou iā mākou iho me nā wili kaʻa, a ua kī mākou i ke komoʻana o ka lāʻau no kahi-e like me ka hoʻopiʻi, e pili ana i nā minuke 27. A i ka manaʻo o ka luna kānāwai a me ka mea i hoʻopiʻi he mea nuiʻole i ka mea i hanaʻia i kēia mea kanu. Akā, hiki ke hoʻololi. ʻO ka mea e ho'āʻo nei e puka i waho,ʻo ia kaʻelele he hoʻokahi kumu kēia, akā aia ka hana ma kēia'āina a puni ka honua. Ke hakakā nei lākou maʻEnelani nei. Ke kaua nei lākou ma ka honua holoʻokoʻa.

NERMEEN KANAKA: No laila, e Pramilla, hiki iāʻoe ke kamaʻilio e pili ana i keʻano o kēia kumulāʻau, peheaʻoe i loko o nā pāʻina,ʻo ka mea i hanaʻia e kēia kumulāʻau e hana ai a peheaʻoe e manaʻo ai e pili ana ka hopena o ke olakino, inā kūkuluʻia?

PRAMILLA MALICK: No laila, he mea ponoʻo 650-megawatt pūnaewele mana kahe. E hilinaʻi ia ma kahi haneli hoʻokahi a hiki i ka 150 pūkili hauʻoli i kēlā me kēia makahiki. No laila uaʻike mākou i ka nui o ka nui o ka makeʻana o nā keiki make ma Pennsylvania. Ke piʻi nei nā maʻi maʻi. Hoʻomaʻemaʻeʻia nā'āpana. Akā me kēlā, e hopena ke olakino i ka hele ma nā pūnaewele holonaewele. No laila, noho au ma kahi kokoke i kahi keʻena kōpana, a ua kākau mua mākou i nā hopena o ke olakino ma koʻu kaiaulu, ma Minisink, nā liʻiliʻi, nā poʻohiwi, nā hulu, nā hōʻailona neurological.

AMY GOODMAN: A he hopena kēia o kēia?

PRAMILLA MALICK: Ke hōʻikeʻia i kahi keʻena hoʻokūkū hauʻeha, ke keʻena kōpili Minisink. A ua kākauʻia kēia mea e kahi hui o kaʻepekema. No laila, uaʻikeʻoe, heʻano hou kaʻenehana, a ua hoʻomaka nā kānaka e hoʻomaka i ka hoʻomeʻeke e ho'āʻo e hoʻomaopopo i ka mea e hana nei. Akā,ʻo ka poʻe lālā mua, e like me ko mākou, keʻike nei mākou. Keʻike nei mākou. Uaʻike mākou i kahi hana olakino. A-

AMY GOODMAN: A no laila, pehea lāʻoe i komo ai me ka hoʻopiʻiʻo June 2015, a he aha kāu i hana ai?

PRAMILLA MALICK: ʻO wau, ua paʻa wau i lalo, me James Cromwell a me Madeline Shaw.

AMY GOODMAN: And Madeline Shaw

PRAMILLA MALICK: He kanakaʻelemakuleʻo ia e noho ana ma ke kaiāulu. Ua hopohopo nuiʻo ia no ka mea ua manaʻoʻo ia e hele anaʻo ia mai kona home i noho ai ma 1949, inā ua kūkuluʻia kēia mea kanu.

AMY GOODMAN: Ua haʻiʻo Iakobo i ka mokuʻo Seneca. I kēia manawa,ʻaʻole anei he lanakila hou o nā mea'ānena e pani nei i kahi hale mālama i laila?

PRAMILLA MALICK: ʻAe.

AMY GOODMAN: A pehea kēia e pili ana i kēia mea āu e ʻimi nei e pale ai?

PRAMILLA MALICK: Aia, ua like lākou i ka like me mākou, i ke ʻano ua hana lākou i ke kaʻina hoʻoponopono, lobi, hoʻopio, hoʻopiʻi ʻia i ko lākou mau luna koho a pau, ʻaʻole lākou i loaʻa i nā wahi āpau. A pēlā lākou i hoʻomaka ai i ka hana kūlohelohe pili. A manaʻo wau ua hana nui ka ʻomi i luna o ka ʻoihana a haʻalele i ka ʻoihana i kā lākou noi no kēlā hale mālama. Akā ke ʻae aku ʻoe i kahi loea mana a 650-megawatt-ke hoʻomanaʻo nei iaʻu i ka poʻe i kēia mea - ua ʻae ʻia kēia mea e ke aupuni o New York, e kā mākou Kāpena Cuomo, ka mea nāna i papa ʻaihue, i mea e pili ana i nā pōʻino ola, akā ua ʻae ʻia kēia mea kanu no ka mea e koi a hilinaʻi i nā tausani o nā pūnāwai hou ma luna o kona ola. ʻAʻole pono mākou i kēia lāʻau mana. Akā e kūkulu ʻia paha.

A, ua ʻike ʻoe, he papahana piliona-kālā. Akā e uku ʻia iā mākou, e like me nā ʻepekema - a ʻo ia ke kumu i komo ʻole ai mākou i nā kūpuna kūwaho, a he pilikia i hiki iā mākou ke lawe i nā kānakaʻepekema e hōʻike. E uku ana i ka piliona $ 940 miliona i kēlā me kēia makahiki ma nā kumukūʻai olakino a me nā kumukūʻai ʻoihana a me nā kumu kūʻai waiwai. A e hoʻonui ʻo ia i nā kīhī wai mākele o ko mākou moku ma o ka hapa o ka 10 ka pakeneka no ka mahina piha o ka mokuʻāina o New York.

AMY GOODMAN: James Cromwell, ua hiki no iā ʻoe ke uku i ka uku, akā ke koho nei ʻoe e hele i ka hale paʻahao. Pehea kou lōʻihi e hele aku ai i ka hale paʻahao no? A no ke aha lā ʻoe e hana nei i kēia?

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: Ua hoʻopaʻi ʻia mākou i ʻehiku lā. Aia ia i ka manaʻo o ke keʻena no ka lōʻihi o kā mākou lawelawe. I kekahi manawa hele aku ʻoe no ka hana maikaʻi. ʻAʻohe oʻu manaʻo. Ke hoʻomākaukau nei au no ʻehiku mau lā. ʻO ke kumu aʻu i hana ai, ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke hōʻoia i ka pono ʻole o ka mea aʻu i manaʻo ai he hoʻokolokolo hewa hewa ʻole. A no laila, manaʻo wau i ka hele ʻana i ka hale paʻahao kahi ʻōlelo e pili ana pehea e hāpai ai i kā mākou pāʻani. ʻAʻohe maikaʻi hou aʻe e kiʻi wale ai a me ka hoʻopiʻi ʻana, no ka mea ʻaʻohe mea e hoʻolohe. ʻO ke ala e loaʻa ai ka leka i ka poʻe hana ʻoe i kahi hana kolohe ʻole. ʻO kā Tim DeChristopher i hana ai, he nui - nā poʻe āpau ma Standing Rock. ʻO ia ke kumu o Kū Pōhaku. ʻO ka mōakāka o ke Kū Pōhaku nā kūpuna - no ka mea, aia wau ma laila - nā ʻelemakule e ʻōlelo ana, "He kahua pule kēia." I nā huaʻōlelo ʻē aʻe, hele mai ia mai ko mākou ʻuhane o loko. Pono mākou e hoʻololi i kēia ʻuhane o loko. Pono mākou e hoʻololi i kā mākou pilina pili i ka honua a i ka poʻe e noho ana ma kēia honua, me nā poʻe e kūʻē mai nei iā mākou. No laila, manaʻoʻiʻo wau i, i kā mākou ala liʻiliʻi, ʻo ia ka ʻōlelo a mākou e hana nei. ʻO kēia ka manawa e piʻi i ka pāʻani. ʻO kēia ka manawa e hoʻoponopono ai i ke kumu kumu o ko mākou maʻi.

AMY GOODMAN: Makemake pū wau e nīnau iā ʻoe e pili ana i kāu ʻōlelo e pili ana i ka poʻe e pilikia ana i ka inoa ʻo ia ʻo kapitalism e like me kahi maʻi maʻi.

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: ʻAe.

AMY GOODMAN: Me he mea lā ka ʻōlelo a Edward Abbey i ʻōlelo ai: "ʻO ka ulu ʻana no ka pono o ka ulu ʻana ke kumumanaʻo o kahi cell cancer."

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: Hoʻoponopono.

AMY GOODMAN: Ma o kou nāʻike kaiaulu, ke lawe nei ʻoe i nā kapitalisme.

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: ʻAe.

AMY GOODMAN: ʻAʻole hana ka poʻe pili honua. Hiki iā ʻoe ke haʻi i kēlā?

ʻO JAMES WAIWAI: ʻAʻole hiki iaʻu ke ʻōlelo no nā kaiapuni āpau. Manaʻo wau i nā pilikia āpau — nā mea āpau a bedevil iā mākou e hoʻomaka ai. He moʻomeheu hoʻomake mākou, e ka "make" ʻo ia ka mea i kau ʻia - ka mea nui - he aha ka ʻōlelo a mākou e ʻōlelo ai i ka ʻōlelo o ka mākeke. Kūʻai nā mea āpau. Hoʻohui ʻia nā mea āpau. A he aha kēlā hana - a laila, ʻoiaʻiʻo, pono ʻoe e hana i ka nui o ka loaʻa kālā, ʻo ia hoʻi pono ʻoe e kāohi i ka hana. Pono ʻoe e kāohi i ke kumukūʻai o kāu kūlohelohe. Pono ʻoe e kaohi i kāu mau wahi o ka mana, i ʻole e ʻea i Kina me nā aila a pau a me ʻIraka paha. A no laila, i kēia manawa koke, alakaʻi kēia ʻano noʻonoʻo i ke ʻano o nā paio a mākou e ʻike ai ma nā wahi āpau.

Inā mākou e nānā hou aku-inā e ʻae mākou iā mākou - ke hoʻohui ʻana i kēia ikehu, ko mākou mea i pili i kēia ala, a me kā mākou mea i hana ai ma kēia ʻāina, aia kekahi ma luna o mākou. Inā kā mākou e kuleana i kēlā kuleana, ʻaʻole like ia me ka hewa-inā ke ʻae ʻia kēlā kuleana, a laila hiki iā mākou ke hoʻololi i kēia me ka ʻike ʻana i ka mea e loli ai mākou ke ʻano o ka honua kūlohelohe, i nā mea ʻē aʻe o ka mea hoʻouna, i ka honua . ^ E Ha yM. Ke nānā nei mākou i kēia manawa ma ke ʻano he hōʻino i hiki iā mākou ke hana - a hiki iā mākou ke mākaʻaka a hōʻiliʻili. A ʻaʻole pēlā. He kaulike ia i ke kūlohelohe, a ua uakiʻi mākou i kēlā kaupaona. Aʻo ia ka mea e hōʻike ana ma Antarctica i kēia lā. E hōʻike ʻia ma nā wahi āpau o ke ao. Hoʻonohonoho hou ka honua i ke kaupaona ma kā mākou kumukūʻai.

AMY GOODMAN: ʻO ka mea hana i koho ʻia no Oscar i koho ʻia ʻo James Cromwell a me Pramilla Malick e hoʻopaʻi ʻia i kēia lā no ko lākou ʻano kūʻē e kūʻē ai i kahi lāʻau kūlohelohe kūlohelohe e hoʻohana ai i ka hau i loko o Orange County, New York. Ua nīnau au iā lākou ma ka Pōʻalima me Nermeen Shaikh. E kāʻili mua nā mea hana i kahi hōʻuluʻulu i nā kahua kūkulu mea kanu, a laila huli lākou iā lākou iho i ka hale paʻahao.