Ke kiʻi nei ma kahi o 30 mau kipa i Afghanistan, ua kūkākūkā ka mea hakakā antiwarwar Kathy Kelly i ka pono no ke aloha a me ka reparations.
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I kēia pule, ua kamaʻilio ʻo Michael Nagler lāua ʻo Stephanie Van Hook iā Kathy Kelly, kahi mea hana ʻino ʻole i ke ola, he mea hoʻokumu pū i nā Leo no Creative Nonviolence a me ka mea hui pū o ka Ban Killer Drones Campaign. Kūkākūkā ʻo ia i kāna ʻike ākea a me nā manaʻo e pili ana iā Afghanistan. Manaʻo ʻo ʻAmelika, ʻo ia nō - a ʻoiaʻiʻo nō, hoʻomau i ke alakaʻi hewa ʻia ʻana, piʻi aʻe ma mua o ka hoʻonā ʻana i nā hakakā kolohe ma laila. Hāʻawi ʻo ia i kekahi mau ʻōlelo aʻo kūpono a kikoʻī hoʻi i ka mea e pono ai ka hoʻopili ʻana a me ka hoʻohua ʻana e pono ai, a hāʻawi i nā ala paʻa e komo ai mākou. Hoʻokomo pū ʻo ia iā mākou e noʻonoʻo hou i kā mākou mau manaʻo i manaʻo mua ʻia, e pili ana i ka Taliban a me mākou iho; i ka hana ʻana pēlā hiki iā mākou ke hoʻomaka e empathize, hana hou kanaka a makaʻu liʻiliʻi:
ʻO ka mea mua, manaʻo wau e pono kāua e hana i ka mea a ʻolua a Michael i kākoʻo ai i ka Metta Center no kekahi manawa lōʻihi. Pono mākou e ʻike i ka koa e kaohi i kā mākou makaʻu. Pono mākou e lilo i lehulehu i makaʻu ʻole ʻia i makaʻu i kēia pūʻulu, makaʻu i kēlā hui, e hoʻomau mākou i ka hana ʻana i nā hana e hoʻopau i kēlā hui i makaʻu ʻole mākou. lākou hou. ʻO kēlā mea hoʻokahi. Manaʻo wau he mea nui maoli ia e hoʻomau i ke kūkulu ʻana i ko mākou ʻano o ka kaohi ʻana i kā mākou makaʻu.
ʻO ka lua o ka mea, ʻoi loa, e ʻike i ka poʻe e hāpai ana i nā hopena o kā mākou kaua a me kā mākou neʻe ʻana ... ʻO kaʻu mau hoaaloha ʻōpio ma Afghanistan he hōʻailona o ka poʻe i makemake e kiʻi i ka poʻe ma kēlā ʻaoʻao o ka hoʻokaʻawale. Ua kamaʻilio lākou e pili ana i ka honua ʻaʻohe palena. Makemake lākou e loaʻa nā papahana lāhui.
Aia wale nō ke nānā maoli aku iā Afghanistan, ke ʻike mākou iā ia a me kona poʻe i ko lākou waiwai paʻakikī āpau hiki iā mākou ke hoʻomaopopo i ka mea a lākou e makemake ai a e pono ai. Ma ka hoʻolohe ʻana i nā poʻe a me nā hui ma ka honua e aʻo ai mākou pehea e hiki ai iā mākou ke hui pū me lākou i ka ʻimi ʻana i nā ala e hoʻonā ai i nā hakakā a kūkulu hou. A pili kēia mau mea i ka kūpaʻa paʻa i ka nonviolence, hoʻohaʻahaʻa maoli a me ka noʻonoʻo pono iā ʻoe iho:
… ʻO ka nononviolence ka ikaika ʻoiaʻiʻo. Pono mākou e haʻi i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo a nānā iā mākou iho i ke aniani. A ʻo ka mea aʻu i ʻōlelo wale ai, paʻakikī maoli ia. Akā manaʻo wau koi ʻia ia e hoʻomaopopo pono ʻo wai mākou a pehea e hiki ai iā mākou ke ʻōlelo maoli, “E kala mai. Minamina loa mākou, ”a hana i nā reparations e ʻōlelo nei ʻaʻole mākou e hoʻomau i kēia.
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Stephanie: Welina mai nā poʻe āpau i ka Radio Radio Nonviolence. ʻO wau ʻo Stephanie Van Hook, a eia wau ma ke keʻena me kaʻu hoa noho a me ka heleuma nūhou, ʻo Michael Nagler. Aloha kakahiaka, Michael. Mahalo no ka mea i loko o ke keʻena me aʻu i kēia lā.
ʻO Mikaʻela: Aloha kakahiaka, Stephanie. ʻAʻole wahi ʻē aʻe i kēia kakahiaka.
Stephanie: No laila, i kēia lā me mākou Kathy Kelly. No kēlā poʻe o ʻoukou i ka neʻe maluhia, ʻaʻole pono ʻo ia e hoʻolauna. ʻO kekahi i hoʻolaʻa piha i kona ola i ka hoʻopau ʻana i ke kaua a me ka hana ʻino. ʻO ia kekahi o nā lālā hoʻokumu o Leo i ka Wao, ʻike ʻia ma hope Nā leo no ka Creative Nonviolence, nāna i pani kāna huakaʻi ma 2020 no ka paʻakikī e hele i nā wahi kaua. E lohe hou mākou e pili ana i kēlā. ʻO ia ka mea kōkua i ka Ka Hoʻolaha ʻo Ban Killer Drones, a he mea hoʻouluulu me World Beyond War.
ʻO mākou pū me ia i kēia lā ma ka Pūnaewele Nonviolence e kamaʻilio e pili ana iā Afghanistan. Aia ʻo ia ma laila ma kahi o 30 mau manawa. A ma ke ʻano he kanaka ʻAmelika i hoʻolaʻa ʻia no ka hoʻopau ʻana i ke kaua, ke lohe nei e pili ana i kāna mau ʻike a me nā mea e hana nei ma laila i kēia manawa mai kāna kuanaʻike e lilo i mea kōkua nui ke hoʻomau a hoʻonui i kā mākou kamaʻilio e pili ana iā Afghanistan i loko o ka nūhou i kēia lā.
No laila, ʻoluʻolu i ka Pūnaewele Nonviolence, Kathy Kelly.
Kathy: Mahalo, Stephanie lāua ʻo Michael. He mea hōʻoluʻolu mau ia i ka ʻike e hana nei ʻolua e like me ka hana e hāpai i ka nonviolence a e hoʻāʻo e hoʻomaopopo pono i nā hopena o kā mākou kaua.
ʻO Mikaʻela: ʻ,, e hele mai nei nāu, e Kathy, hōʻoiaʻiʻo loa ia. Mahalo.
Stephanie: E Kathy, ma hea ʻoe e ʻike ai iā ʻoe iho i kēia lā? Aia ʻoe ma Kikako?
Kathy: ʻĀ, aia wau ma ka ʻāpana ʻo Chicago. A ma kekahi ʻano, pinepine koʻu puʻuwai a me koʻu noʻonoʻo - ma o ka leka uila a me ka pāpili kaiaulu, me - oh, kuhi wau ma kahi o ʻelima mau kānaka ʻōpio Afghans i laki loa wau e ʻike ma o nā kipa ʻana iā Afghanistan. Aia lākou āpau i nā kūlana weliweli, a ʻoi aku kekahi ma mua o nā mea ʻē aʻe. A ke noʻonoʻo nui nei i ka mea i hiki ke hoʻomaka i ala nonviolent i mua no lākou.
Stephanie: ʻĀ, e lele wale i loko i kēlā manawa, e Kathy. Hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻōlelo i ka mea e hana nei i kou puʻuwai a me kou noʻonoʻo, he aha ka mea e hana nei mai kāu kuanaʻike?
Kathy: ʻĀ, kaumaha nui wau a minamina hoʻi. ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, noho wau i ka ʻoluʻolu a me ka palekana, kēlā ulia pōpilikia maoli o ka hānau ʻana, akā ke noho nei wau i kahi ʻāina kahi i ʻāpono ʻia ka nui o kā mākou hōʻoluʻolu a me ka palekana e kahi hoʻokele waiwai nona nā huaʻai kiʻekiʻe. A pehea mākou e kūʻai aku ai i kēlā mau mea kaua a kūʻai aku a hoʻohana ʻia, a laila e kūʻai hou aku? ʻĀ, pono mākou e kūʻai aku i kā mākou kaua.
A, ʻike ʻoe, ka manaʻo a ka poʻe he nui, ʻoiai poina wale lākou e pili ana iā Afghanistan, inā lākou e noʻonoʻo - a ʻaʻole wau e manaʻo i kēia no ka hoʻokolokolo - akā nui ka poʻe o ka US i manaʻo, “ʻĀ, ʻaʻole ' Ke kōkua aku nei mākou i nā wahine a me nā keiki ma ʻō? ” A ʻaʻole ia he ʻoiaʻiʻo. Ua loaʻa kekahi mau wahine i loaʻa kālā, ke kanalua ʻole, ma nā kūlanakauhale. Akā ʻike ʻoe, pono mākou e nīnau iā mākou iho, he aha if ʻaʻole i hoʻolaʻa ʻia ʻo ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa i ke kūkulu ʻana i nā waihona 500 a puni ʻo Afghanistan? He aha inā ʻaʻole mākou e hoʻomāʻona i nā wahi e pili ana i kēlā mau kumu - a ma nā wahi āpau o ka ʻāina - me kā mākou mea kaua. He aha inā inā ʻo ke kānāwai a mākou i hāʻule ai ma waena o nā pōkā he nui, a me nā mea he nui i hele ʻole i kākau ʻole ʻia no ka mea ʻaʻole i hana ʻia ke kaua drone - ʻaʻole koi ʻia ka CIA a me nā hui ʻē aʻe e mālama i nā papa inoa o nā mea a lākou i pōpō ai.
ʻIke ʻoe, he aha inā inā ua nānā nui ʻo ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa i kona nui ikehu a me nā kumuwaiwai i ka ʻike ʻana i nā mea e pono ai nā poʻe Afghans a laila kōkua i ka hoʻoponopono hou ʻana i nā ʻoihana mahiʻai no ka mea pono nā mea āpau i ka meaʻai. No laila, i kēlā mau mea āpau-inā hiki mai i ka noʻonoʻo, a me kahi ʻano minamina.
Hoʻomanaʻo nui wau iaʻu ʻO kahi mea kākau ia ʻO Erica Chenoweth, Kauka Erica Chenoweth - i kona manawa ma Colorado, a ʻO Kauka Hakim, ke kumu aʻo no ka hui o kēia mau hoa aloha ʻōpio ʻo Afghanistan. ʻAʻole mākou e inoa hou iā lākou. Ua lilo ia i mea weliweli loa no lākou.
Ua kākau lāua ʻelua i kekahi manawa i kahi hana nonviolent ʻoi loa i hiki i kekahi ke hana i kahi kūlana kolohe loa is e heʻe. A no laila, ke ʻōlelo nei wau, i kēia kakahiaka wale nō, kekahi mea he mea nānā maiau - ua ʻike lōʻihi mākou iā ia ma Afghanistan. Ua hana maoli ʻo ia me ke aupuni ma ke ʻano he kōkua i kekahi lālā o ka pāremata.
Ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia hiki iā ia ke ʻike i ke kaua e hiki mai ana paha. ʻO ke kaua hou aʻe ma waena o kēia mau ʻaoʻao like ʻole. A no laila, he aha kau hana? ʻĀ, nui ka poʻe i ʻōlelo, “Makemake au e hele i waho,” no ko lākou palekana iho, akā no ka mea ʻaʻole lākou makemake e kiʻi i nā pū. ʻAʻole lākou makemake e hakakā. ʻAʻole lākou makemake e hoʻomau i nā pōʻaiapuni o ka hoʻopaʻi a me ka hoʻopaʻi.
A no laila, no ka poʻe i holo i nā wahi e like me Pakistan, ʻaʻole palekana lākou maoli. ʻIke wau i kahi ʻano - ʻaʻole hiki iaʻu ke kōkua akā ʻike i kahi hoʻomaha. "ʻAe, ma ka liʻiliʻi loa ua hele aku ʻoe ma waho o kahi makaʻu." A laila eia mākou ma ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa kahi i kālā ai kā mākou kālā ʻauhau i kēia haunaele a me kēia haunaele i loko o nā makahiki he nui i hana ʻia e nā ʻaoʻao hakakā. A ʻo ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa ke kuʻekuʻe wāwae maikaʻi loa. Akā naʻe, ʻaʻole mākou e ʻike i kahi haʻalulu e pono ai. Eia naʻe, ʻo ia ka mea i loaʻa i koʻu manaʻo. Mahalo no kou noi ʻana mai.
ʻO Mikaʻela: Aloha nui ʻoe, e Kathy. He mau manaʻo ʻelua kaʻu me ka pane i ka mea āu i kaʻana like ai. ʻO kahi mea hou loa āu i ʻōlelo ai, a ke pili wau e ʻae pū paha ʻoe me aʻu - Pili wau ma kekahi pae o ko mākou manaʻo hui a me ko mākou manaʻo pākahi, ʻaʻole ia he ʻoiaʻiʻo e hele aku nei mākou mai ka scot-free. ʻIke ʻoe, aia kekahi mea e like me ka hōʻeha pono. ʻO kēia kahi ʻeha a nā kānaka e hana ai iā lākou iho ma ka hōʻeha ʻana i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe, ka mea e hoʻopaʻa inoa hohonu i ko lākou noʻonoʻo.
ʻO ka mea maikaʻi ʻole e pili ana iā ia - a ʻo kēia paha kahi e hiki ai iā mākou ke kōkua - ʻaʻole hoʻopili nā kānaka i nā kiko. ʻIke ʻoe, hele ke kāne i kahi hale kūʻai i Tennessee a kī i kēia mau poʻe āpau. ʻAʻole mākou e kau i ʻelua a ʻelua hoʻi, ʻike ʻoe, i kākoʻo i kēia kulekele e kinai ka hana ʻino. ʻAʻole maopopo iā mākou ke hoʻouna nei mākou i kahi leka e hōʻeha iā mākou i ko mākou honua ponoʻī.
No laila, kuhi wau ua loaʻa wau i kēlā ʻano i kekahi kumu nui ʻē aʻe, ʻo ia ka mea aʻu e lohe ai ke kumu nui - aia ʻelua mau pūʻali koa i ka honua: ka ikaika o ka nonviolence a me ka ikaika o ka hana ʻino. A ʻo ka ikaika o ka hana ʻino e hoʻohuli i kou nānā i nā mīkini ma mua o ka poʻe. ʻO ia kaʻu e lohe nei.
Kathy: ʻĀ, aia kēlā koi ʻaneʻane ʻaʻole ʻoe e ʻike i kahi kanaka ke hoʻokokoke ʻoe i kahi kanaka me kahi pōkā a i ʻole me kahi mea kaua.
ʻIke ʻoe, kahi mea e noʻonoʻo ai, e Mikaela, ʻo ia ʻo Timothy McVeigh, he koa ia ma ʻIraka ma mua he kanaka - maopopo iā ʻoe, he keiki ʻo ia e ulu ana i kahi wahi liʻiliʻi. ʻAʻole maopopo iaʻu kahi o kona ulu maoli ʻana. Manaʻo wau aia paha ma Pennsylvania.
Akā nō naʻe, he mea maikaʻi ʻo ia, e like me kā lākou e ʻōlelo nei, ka māka māka. Hiki iā ia ke kuʻi i ka pahu hopu maoli, maikaʻi loa. Me nā pahuhopu popup, loaʻa iā ia nā māka kiʻekiʻe loa. A no laila, iā ia i ʻIraka, i ka manawa mua ua kākau ʻo ia i kahi leka i kona ʻanakē, a he ʻōlelo pololei kēia, "paʻakikī maoli ka luku ʻana i nā Iraqis i ka wā mua. Akā ma hope o kekahi manawa, ua maʻalahi ka luku ʻana i nā Iraqis. ”
ʻO Timothy McVeigh ka mea nāna i hāpai i ka ukana, manaʻo wau, he kalaka me nā mea pahū a hoʻouka kaua i ka Hale Pekelala o Oklahoma. A noʻonoʻo mau wau ka mea hoʻomaʻamaʻa, nāna i aʻo iā Timothy McVeigh e manaʻoʻiʻo he maʻalahi ka pepehi kanaka ʻana? A hoʻopaʻi ʻia ʻo Timothy McVeigh. Akā Pololei ʻoe. Ua hoʻopaʻi mākou iā mākou iho.
A loaʻa iā mākou i kēia manawa ka nui o ka poʻe ʻōpio i hoʻolilo i nā hola nui i ka pāʻani ʻana i nā pāʻani wikiō a me ka ʻimi ʻana i nā ʻōpala, ʻike ʻoe, nā ʻōpala ma ka papakaumaka. A laila ʻO Daniel Hale hoʻokuʻu i nā palapala maoli. Hana wiwo ʻole ʻo ia i kēlā. He loiloi ʻAmelika ʻo ia ma Afghanistan, a ma hope e hana ana no kekahi o nā ʻoihana palekana.
Ua ʻike ʻo ia e ka palapala US ua hana lākou iā lākou iho, ʻeiwa o ka manawa he ʻumi i loko o hoʻokahi hana he ʻelima mau mahina ʻo ia kahi o, ua lilo ka pahuhopu i kamaʻāina. ʻAʻole ke kanaka a lākou i manaʻo ai he kanaka kēlā. A no laila hoʻokuʻu ʻo ia i ka ʻike. Ke mālama nei ʻo ia i kēia manawa 45 mahina i loko o ka hale paʻahao - mau makahiki i ka hale paʻahao.
A no laila, he aha ka hoʻouka kaua US hope loa, me he mea lā, ma Kabul? ʻAʻole paha ka hope loa. Koho ʻia kahi kāne ma ke ʻano he māka. Kona inoa ʻo Zemari Ahmadi, a he makua kāne ʻo ia no nā keiki he nui. Ua noho ʻo ia i loko o kahi hui me ʻelua o kona mau kaikaina a me ko lākou ʻohana. Ke hele nei ʻo ia a puni ʻo Kabul e haʻalele i nā poʻe - no ka mea he kaʻa kāna, a hiki iā ia ke kōkua iā lākou me ia ʻoluʻolu a ʻohi i nā kini wai no kona ʻohana a hoʻopau i nā hana o ka minuke hope loa no ka mea ua koho ʻia ʻo ia e kiʻi i kekahi o kēia mau visa malihini kūikawā a hele mai i ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa.
Ua ʻūʻī ka ʻohana i kā lākou ʻeke. A ma kekahi ʻano, no ka mea ʻo ia e hoʻokele nei i kahi Corolla keʻokeʻo, ua manaʻo nā mea lawelawe drone a me kā lākou mau aʻoaʻo, "Ke ʻohi nei kēia kanaka i nā mea pāhū. Ua hele ʻo ia i kahi mokuʻāina Islamic ma ka hale palekana ʻo Khorasan. E hoʻi ʻo ia i kekahi hana ʻē aʻe ma kahi pūhui e pili ana iā lākou. A laila hele paha ʻo ia i ke kahua mokulele a hōʻeha i ka poʻe. ”
Ua manaʻo lākou i kēia moemoeā. ʻAʻohe o ia mea ʻoiaʻiʻo. Ma muli o nā mea āpau a lākou e ʻike ai i kā lākou kiʻi drone, kiʻi paʻi kiʻi kāmela, he mau puʻupuʻu a me nā aniani fuzzy. A no laila, a laila kī lākou i nā pōkā, me ka manaʻo aia wale nō kēia kāne a me ke kanaka āna e kamaʻilio nei. A he kuʻuna ko Ahmed Zemari, kahi e huki ai ʻo ia i ke kaʻa i ke alaloa - a ʻo ka ʻona ʻana i kahi kaʻa ma Afghanistan ma kahi kaiāulu papa hana, he mea nui ia.
Ke huki ʻo ia iā ia i ke ala kaʻa, ʻae ʻo ia i kāna keiki kāne mua e hoʻokū. E komo nā keiki liʻiliʻi i loko o ke kaʻa. He mea wale nō kā lākou i hana ai. A no laila, ʻo ia ka mea hope loa a lākou i hana ai. Ehiku keiki. ʻEkolu o lākou ma lalo o ka makahiki ʻelima. ʻO nā mea ʻē aʻe, ʻehā mau ʻōpio. Ua pepehi ʻia nā ʻōpio ʻōpio āpau.
I kēia manawa, aia ka uhi o kēlā. Nui a hewahewa nā nūpepa i hiki ke hele i ka pūnaewele a nīnauele i nā mea i pakele. Akā ua hana ʻia kēlā ʻano mea i ʻelua mau pule ma mua. ʻO kahi hoʻouka kaua ʻē aʻe a ka US i luku ʻia kahi keʻena lapaʻau a me kahi kula kiʻekiʻe ma Kandahar ma Lashkargah. Hele mau kēia ʻano mea.
A no laila, i kēia manawa ka Air Force, ke ʻimi nei ʻo US Air Force i $ 10 biliona no ka hoʻomau ʻana i kā lākou, ka mea a lākou i kapa ai ʻo "Over the Horizon" hoʻouka kaua iā Afghanistan. Akā ʻo wai ka mea ʻike e pili ana i kēia? ʻIke ʻoe, he kakaikahi loa ka poʻe, manaʻo wau, hiki ke ʻike i ke ʻano o ka hana ʻana mai ia manawa - ʻike wau i kēia lā wale nō i ka makahiki 2010 iaʻu iho. Maopopo iaʻu ua hana ʻia ia ma mua o ia manawa.
Akā ke kumu o ka hoʻouka kaua ʻana, inā he kaua drone a i ʻole kahi hoʻouka kaua ʻana i ka pō, a ʻike ʻia ua "loaʻa ka hewa iā lākou." No laila, ʻo ka pūʻali koa, inā ʻike ʻia ia, e hoʻohiki lākou, "E nānā ana mākou i kēlā." A laila, inā ʻaʻole ia e paheʻe i ka nūhou, inā ʻaʻole ʻano evaporate wale ia he moʻolelo. Inā kū mai nā mea, “ʻAe, ua pepehi ʻoe i nā makaʻāinana. He hewa kaua paha kēia. " A laila hāʻule kekahi.
I kēia hanana hou loa, ua pono lākou e hele i luna, wahi a General Lloyd Austin, "Ua hana hewa mākou." ʻ saidlelo ʻo General MacKenzie, "ʻAe, ua hana hewa mākou." Ua ʻōlelo ʻo General Donahue, "ʻAe, ua hana hewa mākou." Akā makemake mākou i nā mea hou aʻe ma mua o ke kala ʻana. Pono mākou i ka hōʻoia e pau ana ʻo ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa i ka hoʻomau ʻana me kēia kulekele o ka luku ʻana a me ka hoʻokahe koko a me ka hoʻomāinoino a me ka luku.
Pono mākou e ʻike i nā reparations, ʻaʻole wale nā reparations kālā, akā ʻo nā reparations hoʻi e hoʻopau i kēia ʻōnaehana hewa a lokoʻino.
Stephanie: E Kathy, pehea kou manaʻo e hele ka poʻe e pili ana i kēlā mau hoʻoponopono hou ʻana, e like me ka hoʻoponopono kālā ʻana? A pehea e pāʻani ai ka Taliban i kēlā? Pehea e hiki ai ke kōkua i ka poʻe? Hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻōlelo i kēlā?
Kathy: ʻĀ, ʻo ka mea mua, manaʻo wau e pono kāua e hana me kā Mika me Mika i kākoʻo ai i ka Metta Center no kekahi manawa lōʻihi. Pono mākou e ʻike i ka koa e kaohi i kā mākou makaʻu. Pono mākou e lilo i lehulehu ākea ʻole i kuʻi ʻia i makaʻu i kēia hui, makaʻu i kēlā hui, e hoʻomau mākou i ka hana ʻana i ke kālā e hoʻopau i kēlā hui i makaʻu ʻole mākou. lākou hou. ʻO ia hoʻokahi mea. Manaʻo wau he mea nui ia e hoʻomau i ke kūkulu ʻana i ko mākou ʻano o ka kaohi ʻana i kā mākou makaʻu.
ʻO ka lua o ka mea, ʻoi loa, e ʻike i ka poʻe e hāpai nei i nā hopena o kā mākou kaua a me kā mākou neʻe. Manaʻo wau Sherri Maurin ma Kapalakiko a me ka Nā lā Lāʻau Hoʻolohe ma muli o Olympia, Wakinekona i kekahi mau ʻano. Akā i kēlā me kēia mahina, no nā makahiki a me nā makahiki - he ʻumi mau makahiki ua hoʻonohonoho wau i kahi kelepona e hiki ai i ka poʻe ʻōpio ma Afghanistan ke kamaʻilio me nā poʻe hoihoi loa o ka honua, e like me ʻolua i kekahi manawa.
Manaʻo wau he mea nui kēlā. A ke hana nei ʻo Sherri a me nā poʻe ʻē aʻe no laila, paʻakikī e kōkua i ka poʻe ʻōpio e hoʻopihapiha i nā palapala noi visa a e hoʻāʻo e ʻimi i nā ala e hāʻawi ai i ke kākoʻo kūpono i ka poʻe makemake e hana i kēia lele - ʻo ia hoʻi, ke manaʻo nei wau, ma kekahi mau ʻano. wale a i ʻole ka mea nui ʻole e hana.
No laila, hoʻokahi mea e hiki i ka poʻe ke hana e hoʻopili aku me Sherri Maurin ma kahi kūloko a i ʻole noho mau i ka lima. He hauʻoli loa wau i ke kōkua ʻana aku i kekahi ʻano pupa, e lilo i puʻupaʻa i kekahi o ka poʻe e pono ai ke kōkua. Kūpilikiʻi nā ʻano, a paʻakikī e ʻike. Hoʻololi nā koi i nā manawa āpau. No laila, hoʻokahi mea kēlā.
A laila e pili ana inā paha e hiki ke noho maluhia ma Afghanistan, aia kahi kanaka i kapa ʻia ʻO Kauka Zaher Wahab. He Afghan ʻo ia a ke aʻo nei ʻo ia i mau makahiki he nui i ke kula nui o Afghanistan, akā ma ke Kula Nui ʻo Lewis & Clark ma Portland. Manaʻo ʻo ia ma waho o ka pahu. Hoʻohana ʻo ia i kona manaʻo, a ʻōlelo ʻo ia, “No ke aha? No ke aha e ʻimi ʻole ai i kahi noho maluhia o Nā Aupuni Hui Pū ʻIa? ʻO kekahi e kōkua e mālama i kekahi ʻano pale a me ke kauoha. ” I kēia manawa, e ʻae paha nā Taliban i kēlā? Maopopo, i kēia manawa, ke hoʻohana nei nā Taliban i kā lākou leverage lanakila, kuhi au, e ʻōlelo, "ʻAʻole, ʻaʻole pono mākou e hoʻolohe i ka mea a nā poʻe o ka honua e ʻōlelo nei."
He paʻakikī no ka mea ʻaʻole wau makemake e paipai, ʻeā, a laila pā iā lākou i ka hoʻokele waiwai, no ka mea manaʻo wau e pā kēlā i ka poʻe ʻilihune i ka hoʻokele waiwai. Hana mau nā hoʻopaʻi i kēlā. Pa lākou i ka poʻe nāwaliwali loa i kahi kaiāulu, a manaʻo wau ʻaʻole lākou e kū maoli i nā luna Taliban. A, ʻike ʻoe, hiki iā lākou ke hōʻiliʻili kālā ma ke kau ʻana i ka ʻauhau ma kēlā me kēia kaʻa e hele i kēlā me kēia o nā palena like ʻole.
ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, loaʻa iā lākou nā mea kaua he nui i loaʻa iā lākou no ka mea lawe lākou ia mai nā kahua US a me nā wahi ʻē aʻe a lākou i haʻalele ai. No laila, ʻaʻole wau e koi aku i nā hoʻopaʻi waiwai. Akā manaʻo wau he pono e hana i kēlā me kēia diplomat e hāʻawi aku i nā kāloti e ʻōlelo i nā Taliban, "E nānā, e hoʻomaka e mahalo i nā kuleana kanaka a aʻo i kou poʻe e hoʻohana i nā ʻano hana ʻē aʻe ma mua o ka hahau ʻana i ke koko i nā kaula uila. E aʻo aku i kou poʻe e ʻae iā ʻoe he wahine kāu i kēlā me kēia kūlana i ke kaiāulu inā ʻoe e holomua. " Hoʻomaka e aʻo i kēlā.
A he aha nā kāloti? ʻIke ʻoe, aia ʻo Afghanistan i ka hāʻule manuahi a kū i mua o kahi pōpilikia looming economically. A aia lākou i ka nalu ʻehā o COVID, me kahi ʻōnaehana olakino maikaʻi loa a puni ka ʻāina. A ua maloʻo lākou ma ka liʻiliʻi he 24 mai nā panalāʻau 34.
Hiki iā ʻoe ke holo a puni i kahi kalaka lālau a kuni i kāu mau mea kaua ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke kūpale i kēlā mau ʻano pilikia e hoʻonui pono ai i nā huhū o ka heluna kanaka e lilo i mea huhū loa, a lākou e hoʻāʻo nei e noho aliʻi.
Stephanie: A ʻo Kathy, he mau manaʻo kūpono kēlā. Mahalo. Makemake wau e kaʻana like pū kekahi. Manaʻo ʻoe ua hoʻopau ʻia ka Taliban e ka pāpāho komohana, e ka pāpāho o ka honua? A aia kekahi ala i kahi ʻano e uhaʻi i kēlā dehumanization a ʻike i ke kumu e hui ai ka poʻe i ka Taliban ma mua, a he aha nā ala e hiki ai iā mākou ke keʻakeʻa i kēlā pōʻaiapili o ka extremism?
Kathy: E, Stephanie, he nīnau kōkua maikaʻi kēlā. A pono wau e kiaʻi iaʻu iho a me kaʻu ʻōlelo ponoʻī no ka mea ʻike wau, ʻoiai ʻoe e ʻōlelo nei, ʻaʻohe mea e like me “ka ʻO Taliban. " Pālahalaha loa kēlā i kahi hahaki palaki. Aia nā hui like ʻole he nui i loko o ka Taliban.
A ʻo kāu nīnau no ke aha e komo ai ka poʻe i kēlā mau hui i ka mea mua, ʻoiaʻiʻo ʻaʻole wale no ka Taliban, akā no nā hui pūʻali koa ʻē aʻe, i hiki iā lākou ke ʻōlelo i ka poʻe ʻōpio i makemake e waiho i ka meaʻai ma ka papa no ko lākou mau ʻohana. "Nānā ʻoe, ua ʻike ʻoe, he kālā kā kāua, akā pono ʻoe e mākaukau e kiʻi i kahi pū e hiki ai i kahi o kēia kālā." A no laila, no nā ʻōpio Talib ʻōpio he nui, ʻaʻole i loaʻa iā lākou ka nui o nā koho ʻē aʻe e pili ana i ka hiki ke kanu i nā mea kanu a i ʻole ke mahi ʻana i nā ʻohana hānai a hoʻoponopono hou paha i nā ʻoihana mahiʻai i ko lākou wahi. Maopopo iā ʻoe, ʻo ka opium ka hua nui i hana ʻia i kēia manawa a lawe ʻia i loko o kahi pūnaewele holoʻokoʻa o nā haku lāʻau a me nā mea kaua.
ʻO ka hapa nui o nā koa Talib ʻōpio paha ka poʻe e pōmaikaʻi i ka hiki ke aʻo pehea e heluhelu ai a me nā poʻe āpau ma Afghanistan e pōmaikaʻi i ka hiki ke aʻo i nā ʻōlelo a kekahi, ʻo Dari a me Pashto. Manaʻo wau aia kekahi mau kiʻi i hoʻopiha ʻia me ka inaina i kūkulu ʻia, e like me ka poʻe Pashtuns e manaʻo nei he kamaʻāina ʻelua ka poʻe Hazaras āpau a ʻaʻole pono e hilinaʻi ʻia. A kūkulu ʻo Hazaras i nā kiʻi o nā Pashtuns āpau he mea weliweli a hilinaʻi ʻole ʻia.
ʻO kaʻu mau hoaaloha ʻōpio ma Afghanistan he hōʻailona o ka poʻe i makemake e kiʻi i nā poʻe ma kēlā ʻaoʻao o ka hoʻokaʻawale. Ua kamaʻilio lākou e pili ana i ka honua ʻaʻohe palena. Makemake lākou e loaʻa nā papahana interethnic. A no laila, puʻunaue lākou i nā kapa moe i ka poʻe nele i ka wā hoʻoilo paʻakikī, e like me kā lākou hana i kēlā me kēia hoʻoilo. Ke manaʻo nei au, ua hoʻōla lākou i ke ola, manaʻoʻiʻo wau, me kēia mau kapa kaumaha.
Ua hōʻoia lākou i nā wahine i uku ʻia no ka hana ʻana i nā kapa moe, he ʻāpana ia mai ka hui Hazaric, kahi ʻāpana mai ka hui Tajik, a ʻo kekahi ʻāpana mai ka hui Pashto. Ua hana nui lākou e ʻike i ka mahalo i nā lāhui ʻokoʻa ʻekolu. A laila like like me ka mahele. E hana lākou i mea e nīnau ai i nā mosque i kū i kēia mau lāhui ʻokoʻa ʻekolu e kōkua iā lākou e noʻonoʻo pehea e puana like ai i kēlā mau kapa moe. A hana like lākou i nā mea me nā keiki i hele mai i ke kula keiki a nā alanui a me nā ʻohana i kōkua ʻia ma ia mea.
He papahana liʻiliʻi kēlā, a ua ʻae ʻia e ka lokomaikaʻi o nā poʻe he nui loa, e like me nā mea he nui ma Kaleponi a me nā mea he nui ma Point Reyes. Akā ʻike ʻoe, ʻoiai ua ninini ke aupuni o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa i nā piliona, inā ʻaʻole trilliona o nā kālā i nā kaua ma Afghanistan a me ʻIraka. A manaʻo wau i ka hōʻuluʻulu ua hoʻonui lākou i ke awawa ma waena o nā hui like ʻole a hoʻonui i ka likelike o ka loaʻa ʻana o nā mea kaua i nā poʻe a me ke kuhikuhi ʻana iā lākou kekahi i kekahi.
Pololei loa ʻoe ke ʻae ʻole i ka manaʻo aia kekahi puʻupuʻu nui i kapa ʻia, "The Taliban." Pono mākou e ʻanuʻu i hope i kēlā. Akā, ʻano ʻino hoʻi e ʻaneʻane a hoʻāʻo e ʻike i ke kanaka o nā ʻenemi i kapa ʻia.
ʻO Mikaʻela: ʻAe, ke ʻike nei i ke kanaka - hou, e Kathy, e like me kā mākou e ʻike nei, ke hoʻololi wale nei i kāu kahua o ka hihiʻo, hoʻololi i kāu kuanaʻike. Hoʻomaka ʻoe e ʻike i nā mea like ʻole. ʻIke wau ua hele mai kahi hui me kahi kālā hāʻawi kālā, manaʻo wau ʻo Afghanistan ia. He manawa ia i hala aku nei; hāʻawi iā lākou i ke kālā me ka manaʻo e ulu lākou i nā mea ʻai pono, a ma kahi, ua pua nā kānaka.
No laila, ua nīnau lākou, "No ke aha ʻoe i hana ai i kēlā?" A ʻōlelo lākou, “ʻĀ, ʻakaʻaka ka ʻāina.” Pono mākou, ʻike ʻoe, e hoʻihoʻi i nā mea maikaʻi i loko o kekahi ʻano hōʻoia maikaʻi o ke ola. Maʻalahi loa inā hoʻololi mākou i kā mākou manaʻo noʻonoʻo, e like me kaʻu e ʻōlelo nei, mai, pehea e hiki ai iā mākou ke ninini hou aku i ka aila like ma nā wai kūpikipiki like? A i ʻole, ma hea mākou e ʻike ai i kahi ʻano ʻaila ʻokoʻa? ʻO ia ka Leo of Creative Nonviolence a me ka Metta Center e hana ikaika nei, e hāpai i ka hae o ka nonviolence a hāʻule koke ka hana kolohe i ke kuanaʻike.
Stephanie: I kēia manawa e Kathy, ua hala ʻoe ma Afghanistan ma mua o 30 mau manawa?
Kathy: Pololei kēnā.
Stephanie: No laila, e kamaʻilio iki e pili ana i kāu huakaʻi ma ke ʻano he kanaka a pehea i hoʻololi ai kēlā ʻike iā ʻoe. Makemake wau e hāʻawi i kā mākou mea hoʻolohe i ke ʻano o ka mea ma Afghanistan. A ʻaʻole wale ma Kabul, akā maopopo wau ua hele ʻoe i nā panalāʻau i waho. Hiki iā ʻoe ke pena i ke kiʻi o Afghanistan no mākou a me nā kānaka?
Kathy: ʻĀ, maopopo iā ʻoe, he hoaaloha kaʻu, ʻo Ed Keenan, he lālā o kekahi o kā mākou ʻelele mua loa e hele e kipa iā Kabul. A kākau haʻahaʻa ʻo ia i kahi moʻolelo e ʻōlelo ana ua ʻike ʻo ia iā Afghanistan ma o kahi puka kī. ʻIke ʻoe, he ʻoiaʻiʻo kēlā naʻu.
ʻIke wau i kahi kaiāulu o Kabul a ua hauʻoli wale wau i kekahi mau manawa e hele i Panjshir kahi wahi nani kahi kahi Kukuna ʻoki kino pōpilikia no ka poʻe pio o ke kaua he haukapila. He mau malihini mākou ma kēlā haukapila no hoʻokahi pule. A laila i kekahi mau manawa, ʻano like me ka huakaʻi kahua, ua hiki i kekahi o mākou ke hele e lilo i mau malihini i kahi hana mahiʻai ma mua. Pepehi ʻia ʻo ia. Hoʻokipa ʻo ia a me kona ʻohana iā mākou ma ka wahi ʻo Panjshir. A ua kipa aku wau i ka poʻe ma Bamiyan. A laila i kekahi manawa wale nō, nā kauhale o Kabul, malia paha no kahi male kauhale.
Akā naʻe, he mea mālamalama loa ka hele ʻana i nā kauhale i kahi liʻiliʻi aʻu i hana ai no ka mea ʻo kekahi o nā tūtū wahine ma Bamiyan, i haʻi mai iaʻu, "Ua ʻike ʻoe, nā hana āu e lohe ai - ke mālama nei ka Taliban i nā wahine mau kenekulia ma mua o ka manawa he Taliban kekahi. ʻO kā mākou ala mau kēia. ”
No laila, ma nā kauhale, ma nā wahi kaiāulu, kekahi mau wahine - ʻaʻole nā mea āpau, akā ʻo kekahi - ʻaʻole lākou e ʻike i ka ʻokoʻa nui ma waena o ke aupuni o Ashraf Ghani a me kāna aupuni a me ke aupuni o ka Taliban. ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, ua ʻōlelo ka ʻahahui hoʻokalakupua ʻo Afghanistan i kekahi poʻe ma nā wahi kahi lākou i hoʻopili ai iā lākou iho a ua hoʻāʻo wale e ʻike i ke ʻano o ka noho ʻana i kahi wahi i hoʻomalu ʻia e ka Taliban. ʻ saidlelo aku kekahi iā lākou, "ʻIke ʻoe, i ka wā e pili ana i nā pilikia o ka hoʻoponopono e hoʻonā i nā hoʻopaʻapaʻa ma luna o ka waiwai a ʻāina paha, makemake mākou i nā ʻaha Taliban no ka mea ʻo nā ʻaha o ke aupuni ma Kabul," ʻo ia paha, maopopo iā ʻoe. mamao loa, "he kolohe loa mākou e hoʻomau i ka uku ʻana i kēlā me kēia ʻanuʻu o ke ala, a pau kā mākou kālā. A hoʻokō ʻia ke kaulike ma muli o ka mea loaʻa kālā hou aʻe. ” No laila, he mea paha ia i hoʻopili i ke ola o ka poʻe, inā he kāne, wahine a keiki paha.
Ke hele wau i kēlā papa hana o Kabul, i nā makahiki i hala aku nei, i koʻu manawa i hele ai i ko lākou hale, ʻaʻole wau i haʻalele. ʻOiai mākou e noho no hoʻokahi mahina a hoʻokahi mahina a me ka hapalua, ua pōkole a pōkole hoʻi kā mākou kipa ʻana, e like me ka hala ʻana o nā lā he ʻumi ma mua o ka hoʻomaka ʻana e ʻoi aku ka weliweli no kā mākou hoa aloha ʻōpio e hoʻokipa i ka poʻe Komohana. Ua lawe mai i ka nui kanalua. No ke aha ʻoe e hoʻohui nei me nā poʻe o ke komohana? He aha kā lākou hana? Ke aʻo nei lākou iā ʻoe? Ke lawe nei ʻoe i nā waiwai Komohana? ʻO ia nā kumu o ka kānalua ma mua o ka hiki ʻana o ka Talib iā Kabul.
E ʻōlelo wau i ka altruism, ka idealism, ke empathy, nā mākau alakaʻi, ka hoʻomākeʻaka maikaʻi i loaʻa iaʻu ma waena o ka poʻe ʻōpio ua laki koʻu kipa ʻana, he manawa hou loa ia.
Hiki iaʻu ke hoʻomaopopo i ke kumu o kahi kahu hānai Italia aʻu i hui ai (ʻo kona inoa Emanuele Nannini) ua ʻōlelo ʻo ia e hele ala ʻo ia i ke kuahiwi me kahi ʻeke nui ma kona kua, a ke hāʻawi nei ʻo ia i nā lako olakino. ʻO kāna manawa hope loa ia e hele ana no ka mea ʻo kāna huakaʻi ʻehā mau makahiki o ka noho pū ʻana me nā keʻena ʻoki pōpilikia no nā mea pio o ke kaua e pau ana.
Ua ʻike ka poʻe e haʻalele ana ʻo ia iā lākou a huli lākou - ua hele lākou i ʻehā mau hola i ka hau i ka hoʻoilo e hiki ai iā lākou ke ʻōlelo maikaʻi a mahalo. A ʻōlelo ʻo ia, “ʻĀ. Ua aloha au iā lākou. ” Manaʻo wau ʻo ia ka ʻike i loaʻa i nā mea he nui. Eia hou, hiki iā ʻoe ke nīnau iā Sherri Maurin. Aloha wale ʻoe me nā poʻe kupaianaha, maikaʻi, a ʻoluʻolu ʻole i manaʻo ʻino ʻole iā mākou.
Hoʻomaopopo wau i kaʻu hoaaloha ʻōpio e ʻōlelo ana iaʻu i mau makahiki ma mua, "E Kathy, hoʻi i ka hale a haʻi i nā mākua o ka poʻe ʻōpio i kou ʻāina, 'Mai hoʻouna i kāu keiki i Afghanistan. Mea weliweli ia no lākou ma aneʻi. '”A laila ua hoʻohui hou me ke kaumaha,
No laila, aia mau ke ʻano, manaʻo wau, ma ka ʻaoʻao o ka poʻe ʻōpio a me kekahi o nā ʻohana a me nā ʻōpio aʻu i hui ai ʻaʻole lākou i makemake e hana ʻino i ka poʻe maʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa, akā ʻaʻole lākou i makemake ka poʻe ma ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa e hoʻomau i ka hoʻouna ʻana i nā koa a me nā pūʻali koa a me nā mea kaua i ko lākou ʻāina.
A hoʻomanaʻo wau i ka wā o ka lele ʻana o ke ea nui, ka mea ikaika, mea kaua nui loa - mea kaua maʻamau i ka US arsenal pōkole o kahi pōkā nukelea, i ka wā i kū ai i ka mauna, ua pīhoihoi wale lākou. Ua manaʻo lākou - ʻike ʻoe, no ka mea e kāhea ana ka poʻe iā ia, "The Mother of All Bombs," i United States - a pili wale lākou. No ke aha mai? No ke aha makemake ʻoe e hana i kēia?
ʻĀ, ua hoʻololi ʻia i loko o kēlā mauna kahi pūnaewele o nā wahi e mālama ai i nā mea kaua, a ʻano mālama i kahi alakaʻi alakaʻi huna no ka militarism o ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa i kūkulu ʻia e ka pūʻali koa US he mau makahiki i hala aku nei. Ua ʻike ka pūʻali koa US aia ma laila, a ʻaʻole lākou makemake i ka Taliban e hoʻohana ai a i ʻole nā pūʻali koa kaua e hoʻohana iā ia, no laila ua puhi lākou.
Akā ʻike ʻoe, ʻaʻole wau i lohe i nā leka ikaika e pili ana i ka waiwai o ka hoʻopau ʻana i ke kaua e like me kaʻu i lohe ai mai kēia poʻe ʻōpio ma Afghanistan. Kūpaʻa lākou i ka hoʻouna ʻana i kēlā leka.
Stephanie: A hiki iā ʻoe ke pena i kahi kiʻi hou aʻe o ke ʻano o kēlā ʻano kaiāulu ma Kabul? Pono ʻoe e hele i waho, pehea e loaʻa ai kāu lako? Pehea ʻoe i lanakila ai i ka makaʻu i ka hana ʻino?
Kathy: ʻO ka lahilahi o ka lako he mea maoli maoli. Hoʻomaopopo wau ma laila i hoʻokahi manawa ke holo ka wai. Maopopo iā ʻoe, hele, hala, hala. A ʻo ka mea pōmaikaʻi, ua lawe ke konohiki i ke kuleana e ʻeli no kahi luawai. A ʻo ka mea pōmaikaʻi, ma hope o kekahi manawa, ua ku ka wai. A no laila, ua hōʻemi iki ʻia kēia pilikia o ka wai.
Nui nā ulia pōpilikia i loko o nā ʻohana ʻokoʻa i noho ka poʻe ʻōpio i nā kahawai a me nā ana, a ʻo ka noho latrine ka wā ma mua. I kēlā me kēia manawa aʻu e hele ai, i kēlā me kēia hoʻoilo ke hele wau i Afghanistan, e iho ka ʻohana āpau me kekahi ʻano maʻi maʻi hanu. A ʻekolu mau manawa, he maʻi ponia koʻu. ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, ʻaʻohe oʻu mau pale i kūkulu ʻia e lākou, a ʻelemakule wau. No laila, kū mau ka poʻe i nā pilikia olakino.
Weliweli loa ka maikaʻi o ke ea i ka wā hoʻoilo no ka mea ma nā wahi ʻilihuna ʻaʻole hiki i nā kānaka ke lako i ka wahie. ʻAʻole hiki iā lākou ke hoʻolana i nā lānahu, no laila ua hoʻomaka lākou e puhi i nā ʻeke ea a me nā kile. A e hana wale ka smog i kahi ʻano ea i weliweli loa. ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, ʻoiaʻiʻo, inā ʻoe e palaki i kou mau niho kuha aku ʻoe i ka lawehala ʻeleʻele. A ʻaʻole maikaʻi kēlā no ka poʻe.
Mahalo wau i ke kūpaʻa o kaʻu mau hoaaloha ʻōpio i ka hiki ke hoʻokele ma waena o kēia hoʻoilo anuanu. ʻAʻohe hoʻomehana i loko o ka hale, no laila ʻike ʻoe, kau ʻoe i kou mau lole āpau, a haʻalulu nui i ka holo o ka lā.
Ua pīhoihoi wale wau i ko lākou mākaukau e ʻākoakoa, piʻi i ka mauna, a kipa aku me nā wahine kāne make i hoʻokeke ʻia i ka mauna. ʻO ke kiʻekiʻe i luna āu e hele ai, loaʻa ka liʻiliʻi o ka wai a no laila e iho ka hoʻolimalima, a loaʻa iā ʻoe nā wahine e noho ana ma kahi kāmaʻa. A ʻo ke ala wale nō e hiki ai iā lākou ke hānai i nā keiki ke hoʻouna aku i kekahi o lākou i ka mākeke e ʻimi, ʻike ʻoe, ka papahele o ka mākeke no nā ʻōpala o ka meaʻai a hoʻāʻo paha e kākau inoa ʻia ma ke ʻano he keiki hana.
A no laila kaʻu mau hoaaloha ʻōpio, ma ke ʻano e hana nei lākou i ka nānā ʻana, kahi ʻano nānā maikaʻi loa me kā lākou puke noke a me kā lākou mau peni e nīnau ana i nā wahine ʻo ia wale nō nā mākua o ka hale. ʻAʻohe kāne e loaʻa kālā. ʻAʻole hiki i nā wahine ke hele i waho a hana. He mau keiki kā lākou.
Nīnau lākou iā lākou, "Ehia mau manawa i ka hebedoma āu e ʻai ai i ka pī?" A inā ʻo ka pane, "ʻElua paha manawa," inā lākou e ʻai nui nei i ka berena a me ka laiki, inā ʻaʻole i hiki iā lākou ke komo i ka wai maʻemaʻe, inā ʻo kahi keiki ka loaʻa kālā nui, a laila lawe lākou i kēlā pepa anamanaʻo a ʻano ʻoluʻolu. o kau ia ma luna. A hele lākou i kēlā mau poʻe a ʻōlelo, “Aia, manaʻo mākou hiki iā mākou ke kōkua iā ʻoe ma ka hoʻoilo. Eia ka mea ukana e hana ai i ka lole pale quilt kaumaha. Eia ka lole. Humuhumu ʻoe. E hoʻi mākou a hōʻiliʻili. E uku mākou iā ʻoe, a e hāʻawi manuahi aku mākou iā lākou i nā mea pakele i nā wahi hoʻomoana. "
A laila nā poʻe ʻē aʻe - kuʻu hoaaloha ʻōpio i India i kēia manawa - lawe ʻo ia iaʻu i kahi āna i manawaleʻa ai me ka. He kumu manawaleʻa ʻo ia, a aloha kēia mau keiki iā ia. A ʻo ia iho nō e kūpale me ka loaʻa ʻana o ka mustrular dystrophy. ʻAʻole koʻikoʻi ʻo ia e pono i kahi noho huila. Hiki iā ia ke hele wāwae.
Ua haʻi wau i ke aloha. He lokomaikaʻi nui wale kāna no nā poʻe ʻē aʻe e pili ana i nā kūlana ma mua o kā lākou kaohi i kekahi mau ʻano. A ua ʻike hou wau i kēlā. No laila, ke ʻike wau i nā keiki e ʻōlelo ana, "Hiki i kahi ʻāina ʻē ke lawe iaʻu?" Manaʻo wau, “Auwē. Kanada, ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa, UK, Kelemania, Pokukala, ʻItalia. ” E lele paha kekahi ʻāina ʻē - no ka hauʻoli e komo kēia poʻe ʻōpio i ko lākou ʻāina, e like me kā mākou e hoʻokipa ai i kēlā me kēia Haitian e makemake e hele mai i aneʻi. A ʻae, he nui kā mākou e kaʻana ai. Nui nā hana e hele a puni. A inā hopohopo mākou i ke kālā, e lawe i ka $ 10 biliona mai ka Air Force a haʻi iā lākou, "Maopopo iā ʻoukou he aha? ʻAʻole hiki iā mākou ke kālā i kāu Over the Horizon hiki ke luku i nā poʻe. ”
Stephanie: ʻO Kathy, ke noʻonoʻo nei wau i ka manawa a kā Biden wahaʻōlelo, i ka pane ʻana i kēlā mau kiʻi ma ka palena me ka poʻe Haiti, i ʻōlelo ai he weliweli lākou a ʻaʻohe kūlana kahi e pane kūpono ai kēlā. ʻOiai mahalo wau i kēlā ʻōlelo, he noʻonoʻo a ʻano kanaka hoʻi, manaʻo wau hiki iā mākou ke lawe i kēlā noʻonoʻo a pili pū i ka nīnau nui o ke kaua. Aia kekahi kūlana e like me kahi pane kūpono i ka 2021?
Kathy: ʻĀ, ʻē. ʻOiaʻiʻo. ʻIke ʻoe, nui a lehulehu, nui nā ʻohana o ka Haitian ma aneʻi maʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa i loaʻa iā lākou kekahi manawa paʻakikī, ʻaʻohe kānalua, ke hele i nā palena. Akā mākaukau lākou e haʻi iā mākou, "Eia pehea e hiki ai iā ʻoe ke hoʻokipa i ka poʻe i loko o kā mākou kaiāulu." A manaʻo wau pono mākou e nānā hou aku i nā kumu o ka mauʻu i loaʻa i nā kaiāulu a hoʻokuʻu i kēlā mau mana i luna.
ʻO wau e ʻōlelo nei, ʻoluʻolu wau aia kekahi mau kaiāulu a puni ka United States i hiki ke hoʻomanaʻo i ka wā i komo ai nā kaiāulu Vietnam i ko lākou mau kūlanakauhale a makaʻu wale nō i ka ʻoihana a me ka noʻonoʻo akamai a me ka maikaʻi i lawe ʻia i loko o ka nui o kēlā mau mea mahuka. ko mākou mau kaiaulu. ʻIke paha wau ma ka wahi o uka o Kikako.
No laila, no ke aha mākou e makemake ai e kuhi wale nō mākou he mōhai kolohe, he hui ʻoi aku, a ʻaʻole hiki iā mākou ke hoʻouka ʻia e ka poʻe makemake e hele mai i ko mākou ʻāina. No ka maikaʻi, ʻo kēia ʻāina kahi home o kahi lāhui ʻōiwi i luku ʻia e nā mea hoʻokumu a me kā lākou poʻe ukali, ma mua. Pepehi kanaka ʻia no ka poʻe kūʻē kūʻē iā lākou. A laila hele mai kēlā me kēia hui malihini i hele mai i ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa no ka mea heʻe lākou i ka poʻe militarist a me nā hoʻomaʻau i kā lākou mau ʻāina.
No laila, no ke aha e loaʻa ʻole ai ke aloha nui aʻe? No ke aha e ʻōlelo ʻole ai i nā mea āpau, ʻaʻohe mea i waho? Lawe i ke kālā mai ka pūʻali koa a lawe i nā mea kaua mai ka lako hana a hiki ke ʻike i nā ala e lilo ai i poʻe aloha a puni ka honua i ʻole e inaina. ʻAʻole mākou e ʻike ʻia me ka hoʻoweliweli i ka ikaika.
Stephanie: A me he mea lā nō hoʻi, ke ala āu i wehewehe ai i ka poʻe ma Afghanistan a me ko lākou lokomaikaʻi iā ʻoe ma ke ʻano he malihini, he mea ia e hiki i nā ʻAmelika ke aʻo mai Afghanistan.
Kathy: ʻĀ, ʻo ia nō ka manaʻo nonviolence e hoʻopuni nei i ka mākaukau koʻikoʻi e kaʻana like i nā kumuwaiwai, kahi mākaukau koʻikoʻi e lilo i ka lawelawe ma mua o ka hoʻomalu ʻana i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe. A kahi mākaukau koʻikoʻi e noho maʻalahi.
ʻIke ʻoe, hou, makemake wau e koʻikoʻi i koʻu wā ma Kabul, ʻaʻole wau i ʻike i kekahi mea nona kahi kaʻa. Ua hiki iaʻu ke ʻike maka i ke kumu o kēia kanaka, ʻo Zemari Ahmadi, i manaʻo ʻia ai, maopopo iā ʻoe, ke kāne hele i kaiāulu. He kaʻa kāna. ʻO ka ʻai wahie o ko Afghans ke hoʻohālikelike ʻia i ke koena o ka honua e pili ana i ka hōʻino ʻana i ke kaiapuni he miniscule. ʻAʻohe o nā poʻe hau hau. ʻAʻohe o lākou ea ʻea. ʻAʻole nui o nā kaʻa. ʻO nā keke kekelē he nui hou aku.
He ola maʻalahi loa ka poʻe. ʻAʻohe hoʻomehana i loko o ka hale. Lawe ka poʻe i kā lākou ʻai e noho poepoe ana i ka papahele, a kaʻana like lākou i kēlā mau pāʻina me ka mea e hele mai ana ma ka puka. A ʻo ka mea maoli, kaumaha loa kēia, akā ma hope o kēlā me kēia pāʻina ʻai ʻike ʻoe i kekahi o kā mākou mau hoaaloha ʻōpio e waiho i kahi koena i loko o kahi ʻeke ea, a lawe lākou iā lākou i ke alahaka no ka mea ʻike lākou i ka noho ʻana ma lalo o ke alahaka nā poʻe Aia i waena o nā miliona i lilo i ka ʻaʻopiuma.
A kaumaha, ʻo kekahi ʻoiaʻiʻo o ke kaua ʻoiai ua hoʻopau mua ka Taliban i ka hana opiuma, i nā makahiki he 20 o ka noho ʻana o US, ʻoiai i ka ninini ʻia ʻana o nā piliona i loko o nā counter-narcotics, ua hoʻonui ka huahana opium i luna. A ʻo ia kahi ala ʻē aʻe e pili ai i ka poʻe ma ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa pū kekahi no ka mea me ka nui o ka hana ʻana o ka opiuma e hele mai ana mai Afghanistan, hoʻohaʻahaʻa ia i ke kumukūʻai o ka opium a pili i nā poʻe mai UK mai ka US a ma waena o ʻEulopa a me ka Hikina Waena.
ʻO Mikaʻela: ʻAe. Kathy, mahalo nui loa. Ua like ka mea like ma Columbia, ma ke ala. Hele mākou i laila a hoʻopahu i kēia mau māla a hoʻāʻo e hoʻopau i ka koko a hoʻopau i ka loaʻa pololei o ka pane ʻē aʻe. Makemake wau e kaʻana aku iā ʻoe i kekahi mau mea. Aia au ma kahi hālāwai ma UK hoʻokahi manawa, kahi manawa lōʻihi loa, maoli, a ua kupu mai kēia nīnau o kā mākou hana ma Afghanistan.
Aia kekahi wahine i ka lehulehu e hele ana i Afghanistan, a ke uē nei ʻo ia i kona mau maka i waho. A ʻoiaʻiʻo, ʻoiaʻiʻo, pili nui iaʻu. ʻ saidlelo ʻo ia, “Maopopo iā ʻoe, ke hoʻopahū nei mākou i kēia 'mauna' a iā mākou, he mauna wale nō lākou. Akā he ʻōnaehana kā lākou no ka lawe ʻana mai i ka wai mai ka mauna i nā kauhale i nā makahiki he haneli. A he ʻano ʻino kēia o nā collateral a mākou e nānā ʻole ai. ” No laila, hoʻokahi mea kēlā.
A ʻo kahi ʻē aʻe wale nō kēia. Ke hoʻomanaʻo nei wau i kahi mea a Johan Galtung i ʻōlelo ai, ua nīnauele ʻo ia i ka nui o ka poʻe ʻAlapia e pili ana i ka hoʻoweliweli. Nīnau ʻo ia, "He aha kou makemake?" A maopopo iā ʻoe kā lākou i ʻōlelo ai? "Makemake mākou i ka mahalo i kā mākou hoʻomana." A ʻaʻole ia he kumu kūʻai. A he ʻoiaʻiʻo nō ka mea like no ka Taliban.
ʻOiaʻiʻo, he mau hana kā lākou i hiki ʻole i kekahi ke mahalo. Akā ke kumu o ia mea inā hōʻole ʻole ʻoe i ka poʻe no kekahi mea pili loa iā lākou e like me kā lākou hoʻomana, e ʻoi aku ka maikaʻi o kā lākou hana. ʻO ia wale nō, "ʻAe, e hana hou mākou ia." "E hoʻomaikaʻi mākou i ke aʻo ʻana," e like me kā Shylock i ʻōlelo ai. Pono mākou e hana i kahi mea counterintuitive a hoʻohuli i kēlā psychology. ʻO ia kaʻu e noʻonoʻo nei.
Kathy: Manaʻo wau pono paha mākou e ʻike i ka hoʻomana nui, ke manaʻoʻiʻo nei wau, i ko mākou ʻāina i kēia lā ua lilo i militarism. Manaʻo wau ʻo ka nui o nā hana i mālama ʻia i loko o nā hale hoʻomana, ma ke ʻano, he puhipaka, a pale lākou i ka poʻe mai ka ʻike maoli ʻana i ko mākou hilinaʻi i ka hiki ke hoʻomalu i nā kumuwaiwai o nā poʻe ʻē aʻe, kaohi i nā kumuwaiwai o haʻi. kēlā me ka ikaika. A no ka mea ua loaʻa iā mākou a i ʻole loaʻa iā mākou kēlā noho aliʻi, ua hiki iā mākou ke ola maikaʻi - malia paha me ka nui loa o ka ʻai ʻana, me ka nui o ka kaohi o nā kumuwaiwai no ka mea ke manaʻo nei mākou e loaʻa nā kumuwaiwai makamae o nā poʻe ʻē aʻe i nā kumukūʻai hōʻemi.
No laila, manaʻo wau, ʻike ʻoe, ua hana ʻino kā mākou hana haipule i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe e like me nā poʻe Taliban. ʻAʻole hiki iā mākou ke hahau ākea i ka poʻe ma kahi ākea, akā ʻike ʻoe, i ka wā o kā mākou pōkā - kēia mau mea, no ka mea, i ka wā e puhi ai kahi drone i kahi missile ahi ahi, hiki iā ʻoe ke noʻonoʻo i kēlā missile - ʻaʻole wale ia he 100 paona kēpau hoʻoheheʻe ʻia i luna o kahi kaʻa a hale paha, akā a laila ʻo ka mana hou loa o ia, ua kapa ʻia ʻo ia ka missile [R9X], ua kupu, kokoke, e like me ʻeono mau lau. Pana aku lākou e like me nā switchblades. ʻO nā pahi lōʻihi, lōʻihi. A laila e noʻonoʻo i kahi lawnmower, ka ʻano kahiko. Hoʻomaka lākou e huli a ʻoki lākou, ʻoki lākou i nā kino o ka mea i hoʻouka ʻia. I kēia manawa, ʻike ʻoe, nani loa kēlā, ʻeā?
A noʻonoʻo i nā keiki Ahmedi. ʻO kēlā ka hopena o ko lākou ola. No laila, he hana maikaʻi ʻole kā mākou. A ʻo ka nonviolence ka ikaika ʻoiaʻiʻo. Pono mākou e haʻi i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo a nānā iā mākou iho i ke aniani. A ʻo ka mea aʻu i ʻōlelo wale ai, paʻakikī maoli ia. Akā manaʻo wau koi ʻia ia e hoʻomaopopo pono ʻo wai mākou a pehea e hiki ai iā mākou ke ʻōlelo maoli, “E kala mai. Minamina loa mākou, ”a hana i nā reparations e ʻōlelo nei ʻaʻole mākou e hoʻomau i kēia.
Stephanie: ʻO Kathy Kelly, he mau minuke wale nō kā mākou i koe a haohao wau i kou ʻano e pili ana iā Afghanistan no ka lilo ʻole i mua o ka lunamanaʻo o nā kānaka no nā makahiki he nui a hiki i ka wā i huki ai ʻo ʻAmelika Hui Pū ʻIa. Ua nīnauele ʻia ʻoe ma Democracy Now and National Catholic Reporter. Pau ʻoe i ka nūhou i kēia manawa. Makemake nā poʻe e kamaʻilio me ʻoe. He aha kāu e manaʻo ai e lohe ai mākou e hoʻokuʻu ʻole i kēia ke haʻalele ke poʻo inoa iā ia? He aha kā mākou e hana ai?
Kathy: ʻĀ, ʻoiaʻiʻo nō ia ua ʻoi aku ka nui o ka nānā ʻana i nā pule ʻekolu i hala ma mua o ka uku ʻia i nā makahiki he 20 i hala i Afghanistan. He nīnau nui ia, akā manaʻo wau e kōkua nā moʻolelo iā mākou e ʻike i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo.
A no laila, ke lawe ʻoe i lalo i loko o ke koleke kaiāulu kūloko a i ʻole ke kulanui kokoke loa, hiki iā mākou ke noi i nā polofesa ʻoihana a me nā chancellors e hana i ka hopohopo e pili ana i ka ʻāpana o kā Afghanistan papahana, kahi o kā lākou extracurriculars. Ke noʻonoʻo mākou e pili ana i nā hale hoʻomana, nā hale hālāwai a me nā hale pule a me nā hale pule, hiki iā mākou ke nīnau iā lākou, hiki iā ʻoe ke kōkua iā mākou e hana i ka hopohopo maoli no ka poʻe mai Afghanistan?
Hiki iā mākou ke kōkua e lawe i nā mea mahuka i ko mākou kaiāulu a aʻo mai iā lākou? Hiki iā mākou ke loaʻa i ka poʻe e launa pū a lilo i kumuwaiwai kaiāulu no nā keiki i paʻa ma Afghanistan i kēia manawa? A i ʻole no ka poʻe i loko o nā kūlana dicey ma Pakistan? Hiki iā mākou ke huli i kā mākou hui kaiaulu kūloko a me nā hui kaiaola a me nā loea permacULT a ʻōlelo, "Ua ʻike ʻoe i ke aha? Makemake kēia mau keiki ma Afghanistan e aʻo i ka permaculture. Hiki iā mākou ke hana i nā pilina i kēlā ala a hoʻomau wale i ka hoʻohui, hoʻohui, hoʻohui? "
Maopopo iā ʻoe, ua noi wau i kaʻu mau hoaaloha ʻōpio i Afghanistan, “makemake ʻoe e noʻonoʻo e pili ana i ke kākau ʻana i kāu moʻolelo. Maopopo paha iā ʻoe e kākau i kahi leka noʻonoʻo i kekahi mea i pakele mai kahi kūlana ʻē aʻe. " No laila, hiki paha iā mākou ke hana like. ʻIke ʻoe, pili a kaʻana like i nā moʻolelo. Mahalo no ka nīnau ʻana i kēlā nīnau koʻikoʻi.
Pau kāu mau nīnau - e like me ka hele ʻana i kahi hoʻi hope. Mahalo nui wau i kou manawa i kēia kakahiaka. Mahalo no kou hoʻolohe ʻana. Hoʻolohe mau ʻolua.
Stephanie: Mahalo nui no kou hui pū ʻana mai iā mākou i kēia lā. A ma ka ʻaoʻao o kā mākou poʻe hoʻolohe, mahalo nui loa, e Kathy Kelly.
Kathy: Hiki nō. Maikaʻi, mahalo. Aloha, e Mikaela. Aloha, Stephanie.
ʻO Mikaʻela: Bye-bye, Kathy. A hiki i ka manawa aʻe.
Stephanie: ʻo Bye.
Kathy: Hiki nō. A hiki i ka manawa aʻe.
Stephanie: Ke kamaʻilio wale nei mākou me Kathy Kelly, kekahi o nā lālā hoʻokumu o Leo i ka Wao, i ʻike ʻia ma hope he mau Leo no Creative Nonviolence. He mea kōkua ʻo ia ma Ban Killer Drones Campaign, kahi mea hoʻouluulu me World Beyond War, a ua hala ʻo ia i Afghanistan ma kahi o 30 mau manawa. He kuanaʻike kupaianaha kāna.
He mau minuke kā mākou i koe. ʻO Michael Nagler, e ʻoluʻolu e hāʻawi mai iā mākou i kahi Hōʻike Nonviolence. Ke hana nei ʻoe i kahi noʻonoʻo hohonu e pili ana i ka hōʻeha pono ma hope o kā mākou nīnauele hope loa ʻana me Kelly Borhaug a lana koʻu manaʻo hiki iā ʻoe ke ʻōlelo iki aʻe i ka ulu ʻana o kēlā mau manaʻo i nā minuke e hiki mai ana.
ʻO Mikaʻela: ʻAe. ʻO ia kekahi o kāu moʻo o nā nīnau maikaʻi, Stephanie. Ua kākau wau i kahi ʻatikala, a ke hoʻomākaukau nei wau e kākau hou. Ua kapa ʻia kēia ʻatikala, “ʻo Afghanistan a me ka ʻeha Moral.”
ʻO kaʻu kumu nui, ʻo kēia nā ʻelua o nā hōʻailona nunui a kuhihewa ʻole e haʻi mai nei iā mākou, “E hoʻi. Ke hele hewa nei ʻoe. ” ʻO ka Afghanistan pili i ka ʻoiaʻiʻo mai ka manawa o 1945, ua lilo ka United States - e kiʻi i kēia - $ 21 trillion. E noʻonoʻo wale i ka mea i hiki iā mākou ke hana me kēlā. $ 21 trillion ma ke kau lōʻihi o nā kaua, ʻaʻohe o lākou i "lanakila" ʻia ma ke ʻano maʻamau. Hoʻomaopopo iaʻu i kekahi i ʻōlelo, "ʻAʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke lanakila i ke kaua ma mua o ka hiki ke lanakila i ke ōlaʻi."
ʻO ka ʻāpana ʻē aʻe o kaʻu ʻatikala, "Moral Injury" ma kahi pālākiō ʻokoʻa loa, akā ʻoi aku ka nui o ka haʻi ʻana i kahi ala, he aha ka hana a ke kanaka e komo ai i kahi ʻōnaehana ʻino a hana ʻeha i kekahi poʻe ʻē aʻe.
Ua manaʻo mau mākou, maopopo iā ʻoe, “Ha-ha. ʻO kou pilikia, ʻaʻole naʻu. ” Akā mai ka neuroscience i kēia mau lā, hiki iā mākou ke hōʻike i ka wā e hōʻeha ai ʻoe i kekahi kanaka ʻē aʻe, e hoʻopaʻa inoa ʻia kēlā ʻeha i kou lolo ponoʻī, a inā mākou e noʻonoʻo i kēlā mea, ʻaʻole hiki iā ʻoe ke hōʻeha i nā poʻe ʻē aʻe me ka hōʻeha ʻole iā ʻoe iho. ʻAʻole ia he truism pono wale nō. He ʻoiaʻiʻo o ka ʻepekema lolo. ʻOiai aia nā mana pono i ke ao holoʻokoʻa, kēlā ʻaoʻao a me ka ʻoiaʻiʻo ma ke ʻano he ala e hoʻoponopono ai i nā pilikia ʻaʻole holo hou ia. E hoʻonāukiuki maoli mākou e ʻimi i kahi ala ʻē aʻe.
No laila, e hoʻokalakupua wau i kahi hui i manaʻo nui loa ʻia iaʻu. He hui nui ia, e like me ka hapa nui o nā ʻoihana i kēia lā e hana nei i kēia ʻano ʻokoʻa, hana like pū ia, no nā hui like ʻē aʻe Hoʻomaʻamaʻa no ka Loli a pēlā nō kekahi ʻāpana o ia. He ulu ia o ka Noho, a ua kapa ʻia Ka manawa.
A ʻo kaʻu e makemake nui ai e pili ana, no ka mea he mea kēia aʻu e manaʻo nei ua nalo mākou no ka manawa lōʻihi, ʻaʻole lākou e hoʻonohonoho, akā maikaʻi loa lākou i ke kōkua ʻana iā ʻoe e hoʻonohonoho no kekahi kumu. aiʻole kahi pilikia. Akā ke hana nei lākou i ka hoʻomaʻamaʻa a me ka hoʻolālā a ke hana nei lākou i ka ʻepekema.
He maʻalahi kēlā e nānā i luna: pololei Ka manawa. He pūnaewele maikaʻi loa ia a ʻo nā mea āpau e pili ana i kēia pūʻulu i hōʻeha iaʻu. ʻO ka ʻoiaʻiʻo, a eia mākou ma Nonviolence Radio i kēia kakahiaka, e ʻōlelo koʻikoʻi lākou ma nā wahi koʻikoʻi e mālama ʻia ka nonviolence i nā mea āpau a lākou e hana ai. No laila, kēlā Momentum.
Ma waho aʻe o ka ʻatikala e puka mai ana, "Afghanistan a me Moral Injury," makemake wau e ʻōlelo ma ke Kulanui o Toledo ma ka 29th o kēia mahina, Kepakemapa, aia kahi e hōʻike nei i kā mākou kiʻi ʻoniʻoni. Aia kekahi hōʻike ma Raleigh, North Carolina ma ka Triumphant Film Festival. Manaʻo wau e loaʻa paha iā lākou kahi moʻolelo o nā mea āpau i hōʻike ʻia.
No laila, he aha hou aʻe e hana nei? Aloha nui loa. Aia wale mākou i ka hopena o Ka Papa Hana Nonviolence Campaign i pau i ka 21st, ka International Day of Peace, ʻaʻole kūlike ʻole. A ua ʻōlelo paha wau i kēia ma mua, akā i kēia makahiki ʻaʻole i emi ma mua o 4300 mau hana a me nā hanana o kahi ʻano kolohe ʻole e hana ana a puni ka ʻāina.
E hele koke mai ana, ʻOkakopa 1st, ka lā ma mua o ka lā hānau o Mahatma Gandhi, ma ke Kulanui ʻo Stanford e loaʻa ana kahi hale hāmama a kā mākou hoa aloha ʻo Clay Carson kahi e hiki ai iā mākou ke aʻo hou aʻe e pili ana i kahi papahana hoihoi loa a lākou i hoʻomaka ai i kāhea ʻia, "ʻO ka papahana World House. ” No laila, e hele i ka MLK Peace and Justice Center ma Stanford a nānā i ka hale hāmama a kālai i kēlā manawa ma ka Pōʻalima, ʻOkakopa 1st.
Stephanie: Eia kekahi, ma ka Pōʻalima, ʻOkakopa 1st e hana hou ana mākou i kahi kānana ʻoniʻoni o The Third Harmony film me Ela Gandhi ma ka Pūnaewele Nonviolence i ʻelua mau pule i hala. E hoʻolauleʻa ana kēlā o ʻO ka Lā Nui o ka Nonviolence, a hele loa ia ma ʻApelika Hema. Akā e loaʻa ia ma ka pūnaewele.
Mikaela, ʻaʻole mākou i ʻōlelo ʻo Sepatemaba 21 ka International Day of Peace. Pili ka Metta Center me ka United Nations ma o ECOSOC. He kūlana kūkā kūikawā kā mākou. Ke hana nei kēia kino honua i nā pilikia o ka maluhia a me ka nonviolence. Hauʻoli mākou e kōkua i ke kākoʻo i kēlā.
A aia kēia ʻano manawa kūikawā ma waena o Sepatemaba 21st ʻo ia ka International Day of Peace a me ʻOkakopa 2nd, ʻo ia ka lā hānau o Mahatma Gandhi, ʻo ia hoʻi ka International Day of Nonviolence, he nui nā hana nui e hiki ke hana, no laila Campaign Nonviolence a no ke aha ia kumu. kūikawā no mākou i kekahi no ka hoʻolaʻa ʻana i ke kaua ma kā mākou hōʻike i kēia lā, ʻo Kathy Kelly.
Mahalo nui mākou i ko mākou kahua makuahine, KWMR, iā Kathy Kelly no ka hui pū ʻana me mākou, iā Matt Watrous no ke kākau ʻana a me ka hoʻoponopono ʻana i ka hōʻike, ʻo Annie Hewitt, iā Bryan Farrell ma ʻO ka paleʻana i ka nonviolence, nāna e kōkua mau i kaʻana like i ka hōʻike a hōʻea i laila. A iā ʻoukou, nā mea hoʻolohe, mahalo nui loa. A i ka poʻe a pau i kōkua e noʻonoʻo i nā manaʻo a me nā nīnau no ka hōʻike, mahalo nui. A a hiki i ka manawa aʻe, e mālama kekahi i kekahi.
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